Atheists... Your life is pointless

These bible-thumpers can't even read their comic book verses straight, and they're gonna get me help. Oh, lordy! LOL

The bible-thumpers are scared shetless, because their comic book bible says:

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. . ." Matthew 25:41.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

These bible-thumpers can't even read their comic book verses straight, and they're gonna get me help. Oh, lordy! LOL

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farmerman wrote:

MANY RELIGIONS including Judaism, dont believe in an afterlife. To require an afterlife as either punishment or reward for lives lived is something that we shall , as a civilization, outgrow.
As was said so well above, religion and morals only are linked because some want it so. Like the clergy, who all have a vested interest for their own well beings while alive.

Im agnostic and my life has incredible meaning to me, the wealth bestowed upon me in the body of my family and my desire to "give something back' are properties not only bestowed upon the religious.
Anyway, to do good works only for the sake of the doggy bisquit at the end of your life I find incredibly selfish and silly.

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Comment: That they would spend their lives hoping for that doggy biscuit
at the end of their life is not selfish and silly. It's really stupid and loathsome, because they recruit others to this wasting of life. Twisted Evil

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John Creasy wrote:

So how do you explain people that have been pronounced dead with no brain activity and yet are brought back to life and remember things that happened while they were dead?

No one has ever been brought back after their brain has completely ceased to function.

People in comas generally still have some brain activity, and can sometimes recover if the damage to the brain is not severe.

Studies of the effects of drugs, injuries, strokes, and stimulation to the brain have shown that specific areas of the brain must function in concert to produce various states of consciousness. Once the brain has died and decayed, it is impossible for any kind of consciousnes to exist.

Near death experiences sometimes (12-18% of the time, according to the Dutch study) occur during clinical death, which is when the heart and breathing - but NOT brain function - stop temporarily. NDEs can also be induced by the drug ketamine, hypercarbia, and electrical stimulation of the temporal lobe.

Life after death with your family, friends and pets restored to perfect health in paradise is a comforting belief, but has absolutely no scientific basis.

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Thank you, Terry, for explainng "brain death" and NDE.

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Cicerone Imposter Wrote:

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farmerman wrote:

MANY RELIGIONS including Judaism, dont believe in an afterlife. To require an afterlife as either punishment or reward for lives lived is something that we shall , as a civilization, outgrow.
As was said so well above, religion and morals only are linked because some want it so. Like the clergy, who all have a vested interest for their own well beings while alive.

Im agnostic and my life has incredible meaning to me, the wealth bestowed upon me in the body of my family and my desire to "give something back' are properties not only bestowed upon the religious.
Anyway, to do good works only for the sake of the doggy bisquit at the end of your life I find incredibly selfish and silly.

Comment: That they would spend their lives hoping for that doggy biscuit
at the end of their life is not selfish and silly. It's really stupid and loathsome, because they recruit others to this wasting of life.

And you try to recruit others into what? Your wonderful way of loving everyone? Your obvious lack of tolerance for others because they believe differently than you? The fact that you make fun of, joke at, provoke, and demean and think you can do it with impunity because you don't believe in God?

Well, simply put, C.I., if I wasn't a Christian and had to make a decision right now to become one, I would choose to believe just because I would hate to end up like you. You don't even have enough respect for people to answer their questions. You don't have enough respect for people to allow them to share with others that are asking questions and wanting answers without putting your little jabs in there.

C.I., you are definitely a very good reason for not wanting to be Godless.

Cicerone Imposter Wrote:

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These bible-thumpers can't even read their comic book verses straight, and they're gonna get me help. Oh, lordy! LOL

The bible-thumpers are scared shetless, because their comic book bible says:

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. . ." Matthew 25:41.

I just caught this post. Didn't see that you had changed it.

Would have been nice if you had put the rest of that verse in there. But, then that would just show you that Jesus was talking about feeding the hungry, visiting those in prison, etc. Guess that just escaped you, huh?

You accuse 'us' of picking out of the Bible what we want it to say to back us up. Does the word hypocrite mean anything to you at all?

I'm no longer wearing the kid gloves with you C.I. It doesn't work. Treating you with respect and compassion escapes you for some reason. You seem to think it just gives you license to heap more abuse.

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So, the gloves are off.

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Ahhh, most non enthusiasts of the christian thing are not recruiting. I and many others don't give a (frito or donut or spittle what anyone else believes.

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[/quote]Once the brain has died and decayed, it is impossible for any kind of consciousnes to exist. [/quote]
This is assuming that consciousness is solely a product of the brain which you cannot prove.

[/quote]Life after death with your family, friends and pets restored to perfect health in paradise is a comforting belief, but has absolutely no scientific basis.[/quote]

Yes it's a comforting belief that can't be scientifically disproved either. Again, how can someone accurately describe something that happened around them while they were clinically dead.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Thank you, Terry, for explainng "brain death" and NDE.

Need the back up, huh groupie??

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John Creasy wrote:

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Once the brain has died and decayed, it is impossible for any kind of consciousnes to exist.

This is assuming that consciousness is solely a product of the brain which you cannot prove.

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Life after death with your family, friends and pets restored to perfect health in paradise is a comforting belief, but has absolutely no scientific basis.

Yes it's a comforting belief that can't be scientifically disproved either. Again, how can someone accurately describe something that happened around them while they were clinically dead.

Yes, we can prove that consciousness is solely a product of the brain, from countless studies of the effects of brain trauma on consciousness.

Cells in the brain have enough reserves of oxygen and nutrients to survive for several minutes without blood circulation and oxygenation, so the brain can continue to function during clinical death. Your senses (particularly hearing) still work so you can be aware of what's going on around you. Also, the mind is quite good at filling in details after-the-fact by drawing on prior knowledge and bits of information gleaned from conversations and observation.

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How convienent. You have an answer for everything don't you? C'mon, a dead person hearing things??? How about seeing things?

For example, in one account, a woman accurately described a surgical instrument she had not seen previously, as well as a conversation that occurred while she was understood to be clinically dead (Sabom, 1998).

You can't prove that consciousness is purely a brain function. If there is a soul, all the brain studies in the world couldn't account for the soul. It is a seperate entity.

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Death is a process. You are not dead just because your heart stops temporarily. I agree that if the brain is dead, the person cannot see or hear anything, but they can also never be revived from that state.

It is your choice to refuse to acknowledge current work in the field of consciousness and believe in magical souls that defy the dictates of science. Ah, the comforts of arrogant ignorance. Smile

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You can not also prove the opposite.

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Yes you can prove a dead person has no brain function or consciousness. All that needs to be done is a brain scan.

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