Atheists... Your life is pointless

Why does it matter what kind of deity I believe in? I believe that there is probably some kind of deity out there. I'm not arrogant enough(like most on here) to assert either way if there is a God or not for sure. We can not know this. Ray says he has a problem with the idea of evoltution having a purpose. Why is this? Are you that frightened of a power greater than yourself?

I think there can be morality without God, I just don't see the point of following it. No matter how evolved we become, we are just animals and therefore have the right to act like them. Your notion of "enlightenment" seems a little elitist and self-righteous to me.

Isn't each creature concerned about his own survival? If killing you helps me to survive then that's what I have to do. As an animal, I have no concern for the survival of the species., just myself.

As creatures of morality and conscious civility it's up to us to discover methods to live with one another WITHOUT having to kill for survival. This is what civilization is all about.

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Why does it matter what kind of deity I believe in? I believe that there is probably some kind of deity out there. I'm not arrogant enough(like most on here) to assert either way if there is a God or not for sure. We can not know this. Ray says he has a problem with the idea of evoltution having a purpose. Why is this? Are you that frightened of a power greater than yourself?

It matters greatly, since you are claiming that those who are athiests lead a pointless existence. Who are you to make such a claim? If you believe atheists lead a pointless existence, and you don't, then it is of fairly great significance to the rebuttle of the athiests that you state what you do believe in.

Also, despite what you claim about others on here, you are doing a fair job of coming across as one of the most arrogant people I've seen yet in these forums.

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I think there can be morality without God, I just don't see the point of following it. No matter how evolved we become, we are just animals and therefore have the right to act like them. Your notion of "enlightenment" seems a little elitist and self-righteous to me.

We are more than just animals. We have "evolved" past the simple needs of feeding and mating. That distinction is what makes our lives, regardless of belief, meaningful. We impact our surroundings, not merely go with the flow that nature dictates.

And as an aside, any "human" that doesn't see the point of having morals most definately should be removed from the gene pool.

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Isn't each creature concerned about his own survival? If killing you helps me to survive then that's what I have to do. As an animal, I have no concern for the survival of the species., just myself.

As creatures of morality and conscious civility it's up to us to discover methods to live with one another WITHOUT having to kill for survival. This is what civilization is all about.

What is nonsense is believing that a "perfect" supernatural being created us and endowed us with hatred, greed, lust, spite, and all of then other negative emotions, but rejects us unless we believe that he had his son killed as a sacrifice to himself to save us from himself, because otherwise he would be unable to stop himself from punishing us for all eternity for having the sinful human natures with which we were born.

If there is no God, then we are not more than animals. We are just glorified versions of them with more intelligence. We still eat, sleep, and sh!t just like them. My belief is that we were endowed with love by our creator.

If your life is pointless, it's because you have been brainwashed that there's an afterlife that's supposed to be better than our life on earth.

My life has been full of excitement and accomplishments, even though my life really didn't begin until my late twenties. Until then, I didn't have anything resembling a goal, because I did so poorly in grade school, and barely graduated from high school.

I have traveled extensively, and have friends all around the world. I have great family and a circle of friends I've known for forty years plus.

My life is rich and a relatively happy one - compared to many humans on this planet - including the religious.

You really don't know what you are talking about. Your fear of a mythical god from the mythical comic book called the bible has ruined your life.

Disengage yourself from such foolishness and start living; it might not be too late.

If your life is pointless, it's because you have been brainwashed that there's an afterlife that's supposed to be better than our life on earth.

My life has been full of excitement and accomplishments, even though my life really didn't begin until my late twenties. Until then, I didn't have anything resembling a goal, because I did so poorly in grade school, and barely graduated from high school.

I have traveled extensively, and have friends all around the world. I have great family and a circle of friends I've known for forty years plus.

My life is rich and a relatively happy one - compared to many humans on this planet - including the religious.

You really don't know what you are talking about. Your fear of a mythical god from the mythical comic book called the bible has ruined your life.

Disengage yourself from such foolishness and start living; it might not be too late.

I'm not saying you can't have an enjoyable life. I've had many enjoyable times in my life. In the end though, it would all be meaningless.

Yeah. It's a pleasure.

Yes, it would be meaningless for everybody else, because they are not the one's that have lived your life.

When my time comes, I'll be as ready as any person who has lived a rich and satisfying life.

I don't expect anything more; a reality missing in people like you.

Yes, it would be meaningless for everybody else, because they are not the one's that have lived your life.

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I'm not saying you can't have an enjoyable life. I've had many enjoyable times in my life. In the end though, it would all be meaningless.

John Creasy- The song "Is That All There Is?" comes to mind. The religious talk about living an eternity with God in heaven. Maybe that is simply a lot of wishful thinking, born out of a fear of earthly death.

What is the world is wrong with living out our lives here on earth, and then returning to the earth? Because I really cannot conceive of an afterlife, I am happy with the life that I have, and do my best to live it to the fullest. I hope that along the way, I have touched some people, and maybe have made the world a little better place for me having lived in it. Do you call THAT meaningless?

So you have proof that there is no afterlife??? Maybe you have a fear of not really dying when your physical body perishes. I love how you guys lecture me like you're so enlightened. It must be nice to have all the answers.