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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 08:54 pm
Dime to a dollar Barfikus ripped off his screed from someone else--someone equally as clueless . . .
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Arella Mae
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 08:55 pm
Setanta,

Excuse me. You were touting your virtue I learned that from you, by the way. You pointed out to me how I was doing it, so I thought I'd return the favor.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/heart.gif
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Intrepid
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 08:55 pm
Setanta usually reverts to such things when he doesn't have a valid arguement. I am sure that Set could measure all of mankind if he put his mind to it. ;-)
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:00 pm
Setanta wrote:
Dime to a dollar Barfikus ripped off his screed from someone else--someone equally as clueless . . .


I will put the question to you once more for I am asking for this clue:

Can you measure the level of coherence in all of mankind or just those you don't agree with?
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:03 pm
I only measure the relative coherence of those whom i hear speaking, or whose drivel i read--such as yours. Unlike you, i don't make sweeping statements about the entirety of the human race--i don't know them all, and am sufficiently aware of my own limitations to be assured that i cannot judge their conditions of life.

It appears that you feel you operate under no such limitations. However, as one can see with the self-righteousness of MOAN and Intrepid, the religiously self-deluded never let little things like ignorance stand in the way of their certitude. I rather doubt that you do either.
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:05 pm
Read this and tell me if you agree Setanta. You seem to have a unique perspective and may indeed offer more to it.


Why do men seek to point out one anothers differences knowing that no one else on earth sees "truth" "faith" "hope" in the exact same light as they do? WHY?

Some say that one race points out the differences of another

Christians point out the flaws of Non Christians.

Jews point out flaws of muslims

Christians who go to the same church and denomination.....DO NOT AGREE ON ALL THINGS.

NO ONE DOES.

SCIENTISTS DO NOT AGREE ON ALL THINGS UNDER THE SUN.

Can we all agree that none of us....no not one see with the same sight on all things?

Lets agree on this together.

say....I am not God/all knowing/all seeing.

None of us knows all there is to know.

None of us sees all there is to see

None of us are the same...we are all unique.

Is there not something of value to that?

Little value you say? Then what value is there in you?

If this is not our starting point we bring the outcome on ourselves.
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Intrepid
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:06 pm
We don't think you are ignorant, Set. Oh, you shouldn't critisize Bartikus for sentence structure given the form than you have just used in your last post.
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:07 pm
Setanta wrote:
I only measure the relative coherence of those whom i hear speaking, or whose drivel i read--such as yours. Unlike you, i don't make sweeping statements about the entirety of the human race--i don't know them all, and am sufficiently aware of my own limitations to be assured that i cannot judge their conditions of life.

It appears that you feel you operate under no such limitations. However, as one can see with the self-righteousness of MOAN and Intrepid, the religiously self-deluded never let little things like ignorance stand in the way of their certitude. I rather doubt that you do either.


Then you are not accurate enough to judge my coherence...or any one elses. Not even...your own.Since we ALL see things differently "under the sun"!
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:09 pm
I've read it three times, Barfikus, and am no more impressed by it now than on the first two occasions. I consider it to be largely incoherent, and reliant upon sentiment rather than well-founded conviction to lure the less demanding of mind. I am sure of its appeal, which is no recommendation. I am under no obligation to comment on anyone's screed--and that includes yours (if indeed it is yours, and not something you've copied from someone else).

You are certainly addicted to schoolyard attempts at insult Intrepid--which seems commensurate with your ability to contribute anything meaningful to this thread. Shall we revisit your protestations of support for atheists and the relative meaning of their lives?
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:13 pm
Setanta wrote:
I've read it three times, Barfikus, and am no more impressed by it now than on the first two occasions. I consider it to be largely incoherent, and reliant upon sentiment rather than well-founded conviction to lure the less demanding of mind. I am sure of its appeal, which is no recommendation. I am under no obligation to comment on anyone's screed--and that includes yours (if indeed it is yours, and not something you've copied from someone else).

You are certainly addicted to schoolyard attempts at insult Intrepid--which seems commensurate with your ability to contribute anything meaningful to this thread. Shall we revisit your protestations of support for atheists and the relative meaning of their lives?


Might not be impressive. It is rather simple I admit but, do you disagree with any of it?
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:13 pm
Bartikus wrote:
Then you are not accurate enough to judge my coherence...or any one elses. Not even...your own.Since we ALL see things differently "under the sun"!


All that is necessary to judge of someone's coherence is to determine if any meaning attaches to what they say or write. Your screed, that you keep tediously posting here, lacks any substantive meaning--and therefore coherence. Your simple assertion that a thing is so is no more convincing than anyone else's--i have no reason to consider you an authority on any subject.
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Intrepid
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:15 pm
Setanta wrote:
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You are certainly addicted to school yard attempts at insult Intrepid--which seems commensurate with your ability to contribute anything meaningful to this thread. Shall we revisit your protestations of support for atheists and the relative meaning of their lives?


Tell me, Setanta.... why is it that when you make a remark to someone it is supposed to be of great enlightenment and earnest reproach?

When I use the same words to you it becomes a schoolyard attempt at insult. It couldn't be that you use a double standard. It couldn't be that you put yourself above others. Tell me, big guy, exactly why do you feel that you are wiser and smarter than others. You have not displayed that to any great extent.
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:15 pm
Setanta wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
Then you are not accurate enough to judge my coherence...or any one elses. Not even...your own.Since we ALL see things differently "under the sun"!


All that is necessary to judge of someone's coherence is to determine if any meaning attaches to what they say or write. Your screed, that you keep tediously posting here, lacks any substantive meaning--and therefore coherence. Your simple assertion that a thing is so is no more convincing than anyone else's--i have no reason to consider you an authority on any subject.


Do you agree that no man/woman agrees with another on all things?

What level of authority do you have on any subject? I have no authority I admit. Can't you?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:21 pm
NOw, that's what I call a bait; "do you agree that no man/woman agrees with another on all things?"

He can't figure that out for himself?
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:25 pm
Certainly, i don't claim to speak to these subjects with any more authority than that the topic of the thread is the relative meaning of the lives of atheists, and in the opinion of theists, i am an atheist. I have no problem at all with acknowledging that i have no more authority to speak to these subjects than does anyone else. You, however, Barfikus, continue to make sweeping statements from authority about the lives and minds of the entirety of the human race.
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:28 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
NOw, that's what I call a bait; "do you agree that no man/woman agrees with another on all things?"

He can't figure that out for himself?


When a person believes they have a greater sight or perspective than another...they elevate themselves to an authority they have no right to claim.

There perspective is unique and derives it's value as such but only by this premise.
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:30 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Tell me, Setanta.... why is it that when you make a remark to someone it is supposed to be of great enlightenment and earnest reproach?


I have never made an assertion even remotely resembling your characterization. You are projecting your petty resentments onto me.

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When I use the same words to you it becomes a schoolyard attempt at insult.


This is not so at all. When i characterized christians as ignorant, for example, you resorted to the "i know you are, but what am i?" style of schoolyard attempt to insult--as though i had claimed to personally be ignorant in a case when i was clearly speaking of christians. You attempt that method all the time, and it does not redound highly to your maturity.

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It couldn't be that you use a double standard.


That's right, it couldn't--because i don't use that method.

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It couldn't be that you put yourself above others.


That's right, it couldn't, because i don't put myself above others--this is once again your childish resentment projected onto me.

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Tell me, big guy, exactly why do you feel that you are wiser and smarter than others.


I don't, and have never made any such claim.

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You have not displayed that to any great extent.


Nor have i made the claim. Once again, you're projecting your resentments. It is gratifying to know, however, that the barbs i shoot have hit home so well.
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:34 pm
Setanta wrote:
Certainly, i don't claim to speak to these subjects with any more authority than that the topic of the thread is the relative meaning of the lives of atheists, and in the opinion of theists, i am an atheist. I have no problem at all with acknowledging that i have no more authority to speak to these subjects than does anyone else. You, however, Barfikus, continue to make sweeping statements from authority about the lives and minds of the entirety of the human race.


I do not have any authority. The truth does not get it's authority from me or anyone else for that matter. It can't since we all see things differently.

The authority you detect is not mine but the authority of the statement itself.

We agree that none of us can agree on all things.

This is true no?.
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Setanta
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:38 pm
You now claim to speak the truth, but not to have any authority for your statements. The incoherence mounts . . .
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Bartikus
 
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Mon 12 Dec, 2005 09:41 pm
Setanta wrote:
You now claim to speak the truth, but not to have any authority for your statements. The incoherence mounts . . .


If all of mankind could agree .......that we don't all agree on all things

If all 6 billion people could agree on that......could you accept that one thing as truth? Would that be enough authority to deem it as such?

Or do you look for another authority?
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