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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 12:29 pm
>lag<
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 12:30 pm
<lag>

Damn, we have to double lag it? That sux...
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 12:45 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Spade...you ducked the question...and now do not have the strength of character to acknowledge that you did.

Go ahead and declare victory and stalk off. You are much better off doing that than continuing the pretense.

If you ever want to discuss these conversations with GOD realistically...we can do so. But there is no way that can be done without you answering that question...and actually discussing the answer in detail.

But first we have to have the answer.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 12:55 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I already gave it to you Frank...I already have...

If you did not understand why, or how...Or can not explain how you think I have but do not agree with it...then there is nothing I can do...

I can't change who I honestly think God is...and I can not give you a honest answer as to who you personally think God is...If you are not willing to explain how you think my definition is correct, incorrect...Or at the least unsure about God...

Out of the pit...back to being unsure...Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

See ya later Frank...

I am going now... won't be back for a while...enjoy your day...

I was not ducking anything Frank...I was being real, and looking out for you in a way I think you do not even realize...

I had no interest in trying to get you to agree or disagree with me just because...unless you freely wanted to do it...and understood why...

Since it seems that someone else did not care...
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 02:22 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5295171)
Do you think that anti-Jew rioting in the area to be relatively peaceful? If you were a victim of the rioting, you would differently.


You have not given an answer to the question, Spade.

Have you considered that you might be deluding yourself by thinking that you are having a discussion with GOD...and that GOD is answering you?

It is not a hard question. You have not answered it...and apparently you plan not to answer it.

Fine. Duck it. Considering everything that has gone on here...I don't blame you.
FBM
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 05:27 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

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For those who have been paying attention, purely natural explanations suffice for practically everything experienced so far.


I know. That's why you made no comment on the Jane Austen quote. It was there. You dodged it.


Never saw it. I guess you posted it while I was asleep and the thread moved on in the interim. I'll go back and look.

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Here's another--

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"Where any one body of educated men, of whatever denomination, are condemned indiscriminately, there must be a deficiency of information, or (smiling) of something else.


I'm smiling. When you talk of goat herders you are talking drivel. It is something else.


Who are those educated men? The people I'm complaining about are for the most part scientifically illiterate and working on the ignorance created by illiterate Bronze Age nomadic goat herders.

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It's just the same with Islamic women who, as I know from experience, can hold their own without your help.


Yeah.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/An-Iranian-woman-at-a-pro-006.jpg

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You have heard a few anecdotes, which our society might equally supply a goodly number of the same sort of thing, and you "condemn indiscriminately" to support the case you wish to support for personal reasons.


I don't condemn anybody indiscriminately. Religious wingnuts do that. I try to examine the ideas themselves and condemn bad ideas. The people I object to are the malignant ones who harm others because of their archaic and obsolete mythical worldviews.
FBM
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 05:32 pm
@spendius,
OK, I found the Jane Austen quote. It wasn't even tagged as directed to me, so how could I dodge it?

And what's your point, anyway? Jane Austen was an expert in...???
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reasoning logic
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 05:48 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I already gave it to you Frank...I already have...

If you did not understand why, or how...Or can not explain how you think I have but do not agree with it...then there is nothing I can do...


Are you sharing intellectual honesty with all of us? You do know that frank did ask a yes or no question that you seem to refuse to answer? What would be the harm in you answering it? Do you think that we would not find value in your explanation if frank made you out to be the villain?

XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Fine. Duck it. Considering everything that has gone on here...I don't blame you.

Lets do it up Frank...I changed my mind, thinking about this (myself...)

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Have you considered that you might be deluding yourself by thinking that you are having a discussion with GOD...and that GOD is answering you?

"Yes"..."Yes"...

My question to ask you...

Do you think that it is possible that you fully understand what and why you believe what you do, or would you honestly say that you are not sure, and make no guess in either direction?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:45 pm
@reasoning logic,
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Do you think that we would not find value in your explanation if frank made you out to be the villain?

I think I could find intellectual honesty if you honestly explain to everyone why you believe I am the villain? Not what you think Frank has to say, or what I meant to Frank...Yes? Or no?

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Are you sharing intellectual honesty with all of us? You do know that frank did ask a yes or no question that you seem to refuse to answer? What would be the harm in you answering it?
reasoning logic
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 06:53 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I think I could find intellectual honesty if you honestly explain to everyone why you believe I am the villain?


Why would you bring me into this when the question I asked was,

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Do you think that we would not find value in your explanation if frank made you out to be the villain?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 07:10 pm
@reasoning logic,
Can you explain to me why you would honestly think that Frank may think I am a "villain"? If he has never claimed I am a "villain" (yet, at least) and it is not just your own subjective beliefs yourself, if you think it is true?

What do you think I am and why?

If you think I am a "villain" please explain...If you think I am not please explain?...If you think you are unsure please explain?

I do not need to hear you explain to me "intellectual honesty"...When you worded what you wanted me to explain in the position of what Frank had to say...though he did not make that claim...(Bigotry)

Are you willing to admit that the questions you had originally asked me was what you wanted to know? And not Frank?

If not...Can you explain in an intellectually honest way how you believe that this...

reasoning logic wrote:
Are you sharing intellectual honesty with all of us? You do know that frank did ask a yes or no question that you seem to refuse to answer? What would be the harm in you answering it? Do you think that we would not find value in your explanation if frank made you out to be the villain?



= this?


Frank Apisa wrote:
Have you considered that you might be deluding yourself by thinking that you are having a discussion with GOD...and that GOD is answering you?
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FBM
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 07:34 pm
@spendius,
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It's just the same with Islamic women who, as I know from experience, can hold their own without your help.


Yep.

Exclusive: How my brother tried to kill me in 'honor attack'.

They don't need any help. They've got it covered.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 08:18 pm
@FBM,
It makes no difference to you FBM...You just have no desire to admit this is true...

If it actually bothered you to hear religious preach things in your face...and spread the delusion that you claimed they do...Or the evil actions we know exist (though I deny they actually are believers)...then you would be willing to preach how religion is wrong...and what theists would be buying into in rejecting God, and embracing atheism...Just like the patron saints of a nation had done to spread the words of God and were persecuted till death...(look up the patron saints of China) since you like to post what Christians or theists do to doubters or other religious....

But you do nothing at all...

You sit there fat and happy and are not on the front lines doing anything different than any other doubter to stop these theists you claim are so wrong...

If you reject theism's whos mission is it to try to stop theists? Theists? Then theisms are still correct, and immoral theists are not theists at all...

I do not do anything amazing myself....but I do explain to everyone, even theists how much of a journey, and how hard it is going to be to actually be in peace one day....and how long and arduous of a process this is going to be...
tenderfoot
 
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Thu 4 Apr, 2013 11:14 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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If it actually bothered you to hear religious preach things in your face...and spread the delusion that you claimed they do...Or the evil actions we know exist (though I deny they actually are believers)...then you would be willing to preach how religion is wrong...and what theists would be buying into in rejecting God, and embracing atheism...Just like the patron saints of a nation had done to spread the words of God and were persecuted till death...(look up the patron saints of China) since you like to post what Christians or theists do to doubters or other religious.... Unquote.

Shovel man.
Please learn.. your description of a Atheist as one who rejects your god, also goes for a person who rejects any other myths ... Like you for instance "you" who would reject the existence of a true god before the latest one of yours. You bloody atheist.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Fri 5 Apr, 2013 12:49 am
@tenderfoot,
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Shovel man.

Pedicure person...I am sorry if this offends you...but I am not sure how it could...I simply do not have any interest in hearing one who is not a Christian who profess' that they believe they are not...explain how they believe I am not...while they do not believe they are...and does not have an interest in hearing me explain how I think we all believe...that has superiority written all over it....

I would be interested in any Christian willing to explain to me what they believe...and why...and I will try to explain to them what I believe and why based upon certain levels of spirituality I think all Christians are subjected too even though we all believe in Jesus Christ...

I would be willing to hear this from any theist also...

Or any atheist willing to tell me how I do not believe, but how they do not believe that they believe I am not a Christian...but reject it is true...Or any other belief...
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NSFW (view)
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Fri 5 Apr, 2013 02:56 am
@izzythepush,
Watch him now try to justify how that is a "red herring"...When he has also claimed he is not a Buddhist anymore...as well...
izzythepush
 
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Fri 5 Apr, 2013 03:01 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
With the Koran, as with any document one has to realise it was very much of its time. Women were treated as little less than cattle, and their situation improved dramatically. Every religion has fundamentalists, those who want to live in the past, not the present. It suits FBM to portray all Moslems as being extremist and backward looking.

FBM
 
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Fri 5 Apr, 2013 03:09 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

It makes no difference to you FBM...You just have no desire to admit this is true...


Admit what? That theists have been murdering people for centuries for their disbelief and are still doing so today? That they murder women and teenagers for not following their religious laws exactly? That they punish women for getting raped and let the rapist walk free because he's a man? Etc, etc ad nauseum...

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If it actually bothered you to hear religious preach things in your face...and spread the delusion that you claimed they do...Or the evil actions we know exist (though I deny they actually are believers)...then you would be willing to preach how religion is wrong...and what theists would be buying into in rejecting God, and embracing atheism...Just like the patron saints of a nation had done to spread the words of God and were persecuted till death...(look up the patron saints of China) since you like to post what Christians or theists do to doubters or other religious....


Are these the same patron saints who spread the Good Word at the point of a sword? Or have you forgotten about them?

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But you do nothing at all...

You sit there fat and happy and are not on the front lines doing anything different than any other doubter to stop these theists you claim are so wrong...


Silly person, I'm not fat. Wink Spreading awareness of the despicable acts carried out by theists in the name of their imaginary gods is doing something to help stop them. What do you want me to do, fly a jet into a building or something?

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If you reject theism's whos mission is it to try to stop theists? Theists? Then theisms are still correct, and immoral theists are not theists at all...


Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

I don't see why the mission to stop the spread of bad ideas should be the privileged domain of people who agree with those bad ideas. Theists stopping theists?

This thread was started as an insult to atheists. That's why I post here. I don't go around knocking on people's doors and trying to turn them into atheists. I respect people too much to do that. Wish I could say the same for the theists who keep knocking on my door and trying to sell me their bullshit ideas.

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I do not do anything amazing myself....but I do explain to everyone, even theists how much of a journey, and how hard it is going to be to actually be in peace one day....and how long and arduous of a process this is going to be...


It's not easy, is it? One thing that has helped me immensely has been getting ancient religious myths out of my worldview. I've been much happier since then. Smile
 

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