Atheists... Your life is pointless

Everything i wrote is implied in what you wrote: Satanism, the culmination of all evil. Everything you puke up when you start talking about atheists is sooner or later, and usually sooner rather than later, a nasty attack. You demonstrate time and again that you really don't get it when it comes to atheists, but that doesn't stop you from characterizing atheists in slighting and sometimes hateful and bigoted terms. You say you did not "resort to attacks from myself to you?" What the hell to you call it, then, when you describe atheists as satanists or the culmination of evilness.

Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5283035)
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He said he was not...and he talked about "his god" frequently.


He never when charge with being an atheist stated that he was not to my knowledge!!!!!!!!

Second, all positive references to a god in his writings seems to be when he was acting in the position of wordsmith in the service of his new nation not when he was addressing his own believes or lack of same.

Third, there is no need to prove without question that he was completely sane over the matter of religion or not as a man who did not openly buy into the religion dogma of any of the major faiths and was charge with being an atheist when running for president a charge he never address was still elected president.

So there is no reason therefore to state that an atheist could not be elected president when Jefferson who did everything but stated "I am an atheist" was indeed elected president!!!!!!!!!!!

I did not miss your post mate...I am going to answer it in a bit...

YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE STATING THAT AN ATHEIST WAS ALREADY ELECTED IN THE PERSON OF JEFFERSON.

In my opinion, he was indeed an atheist and even without polls at the time it is also my opinion that a large percents of the voters of that era shared my opinion that he was an atheist and he was still elected president of the US.

But you are also free to think that the man was not view by the general population of the time as an atheist if you care to as there was no modern polling to said one way or another.

People here also are free to get a copy of the Jefferson bible where he had removed all the supernatural elements from the new testament and look at his body of his life time writings and draw their own conclusions.

They are also free to get a hold of the surviving copies of the newspapers of that era and form their own opinion of the likely prevailing opinions of the voters who elected him twice to the office of the president.

The problem for me is that with religion as the placebo, there are people so addicted to it that they demand that the rest of the world believe that the placebo is real medicine, and that those who don't use it - because they don't need it - are bad people deserving death and damnation. Furthermore, they want to prevent people from using anything else but their brand of placebo, again, punishable by death and damnation. I have a problem with those people not because they're using the placebo, but because they're hostile and aggressive to the rest of us.

how is Buddhism in your opinion different from atheism i.e. what is the 'most important' difference?

Do you think that Buddhism does not have beliefs?

Yes, I believe that Christianity provides a solution to all of the injustices in the world, by rewarding people with an eternal afterlife in Heaven...

If you are a cynical atheist, you sometimes have to wonder why any one should reward any persons, who couldn't afford to bring a child into the world, but was stupid enough to do so otherwise...

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but it's all in the hope of bringing about a new order in the world that has both more heart and more common sense than the current one.

I think we might all sign up for that Kolyo. Can you explain how to do it?