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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 10:28 am
Set, Good summary of what happened with MOAN and other posters, but I wish to add this personal opinion.

What offended me most was the "goody two-shoes" self-rightous religious fervor of MOAN, while trying to attempt guilt trips on us "bad boys."

I wasn't about to buy her bible-thumping sermons that contradicted so many of her own posts, because so many of you were able to challenge her.

"...the acrid stench of self-rightous hypocrisy" hits the needle on the head.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:26 pm
Hey, why don't we all move on? I don't think that it is fair to talk behind someone's back.

Personally, although I did not agree with many of her views, I think that MA is sincere in her beliefs. I get the impression that she has been through a lot of sh!t in her life, and that her religion has turned her life around. So what is wrong with that?

There are some people who cling to a viewpoint, however misguided, because it affords them comfort and peace. This is especially true amongst the more unsophisticated, who, unlike like their more worldly peers, do not have the intellectual armnament to really think through their positions. For many, it is lots easier to accept an entire body of belief "wholesale", than to have to dissect each issue individually, and come up with a personal credo.

I think that MA is a nice woman, happy and sincere in her beliefs, who was out of her depth in attempting to defend her faith against some of the posters here, who obviously have more education and sophistication.

I think that it was cruel and unnecessary to batter her to the point where she literally ran out, screaming. IMO, it would have been far kinder to simply ignore some of the posts that many believed to be untrue, or contradictory.

I think that a little compassion would have gone a long way. Are some of YOU so insecure in your own beliefs that you felt that MA posed a threat that needed to be defended?
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Setanta
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:34 pm
Wonderful how you enjoin us not to "speak behind someone's back," and then hold forth in such a manner for several paragraphs.

In fact, i don't consider MOAN to be sincere, i consider her hypocritical and as phoney as a three dollar bill--but that is neither here nor there, given that my post was a response to Snood's childish and self-righteous sneers . . .
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:40 pm
Set- Why did I know that you were going to say that? Guilty as charged. I just had to get it off my chest.
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Setanta
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:41 pm
I hope, then, that you are breathing easier . . .
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:42 pm
Set- Yeah, I feel much better now, but I am not breathing easier. Too much turkey sticking to my diaphragm! Laughing
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Setanta
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:43 pm
I've been told that turkey-bird has a soporiphic effect . . .
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:45 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......................
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:50 pm
Phoenix, I can sincerely understand your defense of MA, but her "sincerity" rubbed me the wrong way very early in her posts. Her attempts to make us feel guilty did not help her case one iota.

Nap well.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:51 pm
I just hate the way they project guilt by seemingly innocent questions. I ain't buying.
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Intrepid
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:57 pm
Educated?... maybe. Sophisticated?..... not likely. It doesn't take much sophistication to be a bully.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 04:59 pm
Quote:
Her attempts to make us feel guilty did not help her case one iota.


c.i.- IMO no one can be "made" to feel guilty, unless the person chooses to accept the guilt.

(The sole exception to this rule is one's mother. I don't know if you've heard this, but the reason a mother can push her child's buttons, is that she is the one who installed them in the first place! Laughing )
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 05:04 pm
Nah, I just hate it when religionists try to imply guilt without outright saying so. That's my opinion. Whether I have guilt is not the issue.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 05:08 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Nah, I just hate it when religionists try to imply guilt without outright saying so. That's my opinion. Whether I have guilt is not the issue.


Haven't you noticed? Psychologically, religion attempts to enslave people through guilt. That is the way that religion keeps their flocks barefoot, pregnant, and beholden to them.
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Setanta
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 05:35 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Educated?... maybe. Sophisticated?..... not likely. It doesn't take much sophistication to be a bully.


Yeah, and then there those who demonstrate their educated sophistication by being provocative twits . . .
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ossobuco
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 05:44 pm
When I tire of the back and forth and recapitulation thereof, I go watch Mesquite.... who posts lucidly and not usually in even the tiniest hostile way.
He or she is a breath of cool.

Not that I think all of us should be - I've come to understand the argument thicket here better than I did originally.
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Intrepid
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 06:17 pm
Hmmm Limey twits on one thread... Provocative twits on another. Seems to be a twitty kind of day.

It seems that those with the most to say against religion have no idea about the people who hold dear to their beliefs or what those beliefs actually are. The fear that is written of so often is laughable. I suppose things are different in the good 'ole U.S.A. as far as religion is concerned because I have never experienced the kind of hatred, mockery and profanity that I have seen from some from the land of the free. Fortunately, I think they are in the minority and just enjoy having opposing views to anybody they do not agree with or like. I wonder if some would consider the kind of cliques that can be seen here as a kind of cult activity? Opposing views seem to be just an excuse for bad manners.
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edgarblythe
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 06:21 pm
Woo, cult activity. Now you've been told, Set.
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ossobuco
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 06:26 pm
Intrepid wrote:
It seems that those with the most to say against religion have no idea about the people who hold dear to their beliefs or what those beliefs actually are.



I've posted at least a dozen times, and probably twice that, that I understand. I used to be very religious.

I even did this recently, when I should be well weary of it, (and no I won't go look up the post), saying that people tend to assume agnostics or atheists are ignorant of belief, and that that is presumptuous (paraphrasing myself).

That we don't understand may be a comforting thought for you. It is true that some who don't believe have not experienced religious belief, but it's quite an assumption that all haven't. I see another bag of assumptions that not experiencing your group's particular belief means a person cannot understand it.
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ehBeth
 
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Thu 24 Nov, 2005 06:27 pm
Cult activity.

Don't you have to, like, spend time with other cult members?
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