Atheists... Your life is pointless

Basically, you've got a rant stored up, and you intend to puke it out, whether or not it has any relevance to the thread.

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@MattDavis,

MattDavis wrote:

Point/Counter-point
I'm so starving vs. I'm so starving
First world problems.

Word.

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@Kolyo,

Kolyo wrote:

Sorry about my earlier knee-jerk reaction, FBM.

Looking at the image again I do find the second panel to be a nice retort to the particular sentiment that "everything happens for a reason."
I may be a theist, but I too find the Bible insufferable at times -- in fact, more or less all the time.

No worries, Kolyo. If I had the photo editing skills, I'd have put the Pope in the top part. You know, if the Pope's outfit didn't cost enough to feed a thousand starving African children for a year, I might be a little more understated about it. Then you've got multi-millionaire mega-church preachers begging for more donations, etc. I know they don't represent all Christians, but it makes me wonder if they've actually read the words of Jesus, the guy they worship.

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@FBM,

You happy now, kiddo. Once again, world poverty solved by some unemployed hentai-addicted virgin on 4Chan.
If you are a cynical atheist, you sometimes have to wonder why any one should reward any persons, who couldn't afford to bring a child into the world, but was stupid enough to do so otherwise, and expect "hypocrites" living in a nation that embraces capitalism, to make them some sort of a charity case.

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Capitalists don't preach universal, unconditional love and charity. Christianity does. Who are the hypocrites?

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@FBM,

Some Christians are certainly hypocrites. Some of every group are certainly hypocrites. Christians, despite the hypocrites and the hucksters, contribute a good deal to relieve the suffering of others. One of the reasons i despise the Dalai Lama is because he gets tens of millions of dollars in donations each year, and although he does some cosmetic charitable giving, it is a small fraction of what he takes in, and it is a cosmetic move to keep his brand before the public. Otherwise, it goes to support an outrageous bill for international travel for him and his coteries of monkish sycophants, the alleged government of Tibet in exile. We don't need to look far for pious frauds and hypocrites. In fact, it's hard to move through society without tripping over them.

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@Setanta,

In general I tend to agree, but for a detail or two.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18057519

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The Dalai Lama has said he is giving away to charity £1.1m in prize money that has been awarded to him.

The Tibetan spiritual leader received the annual Templeton Prize in London for exceptional contributions to "affirming life's spiritual dimension".

About £900,000 is going to Save the Children in India, with £125,000 set aside for The Minds and Life Institute.

Money is also going towards a fund to educate Tibetan monks about science.

The 76-year-old was awarded the prize for encouraging "serious scientific investigative reviews of the power of compassion", and its potential to address world problems...

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@FBM,

Forget Christianity for a moment, I'm talking in a more general sense, about righteous, finger pointing douche bags in general who doesn't understand that Africa is extremely rich but extremely mismanaged, and who themselves don't do anything about it. As well as people like evangelists who see poverty as a natural resource. As to the "hypocrites," the well off people, of course, who are smart enough to use contraceptives correctly.

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@FBM,

In 2007, the Dalai Lama received more than $22 million US in contributions. As i said, what he gives away is a small fraction of what he takes in.

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By the way, leaving aside how hilarious the concept of "serious scientific investigative reviews of the power of compassion" is, how many people do you think that will feed?

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

People here aren't debating the bible--how about adding that to your list of what's real. You just jump into a thread that was started years and years ago, which is long past its "best before" date and start yelling at people based on an assumption you've made which is completely without foundation. I call that pretty damned fictitious.

Yeah I do, I'm replying to the original op! Ya never know, he might be reading my reply anyway ... or he might be dead by now,lol!

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@MattDavis,

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I really have no idea why an educated atheist would think that life is ****.

Because it is. Do the calculus of joy and agony for us Matt rather than snidely suggesting I need your counseling.

There's an ad on our telly showing three chaps in swimming trunks standing on a landing stage shivering in an easterly driving sleet and preparing to dive in the lake for a swim. One of them is saying "We can't get enough of it can we lads?"

That's you Matt.

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@Kolyo,

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but it's all in the hope of bringing about a new order in the world that has both more heart and more common sense than the current one.

I think we might all sign up for that Kolyo. Can you explain how to do it?

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@MattDavis,

I had read that letter...and a couple others like it...before.

Great stuff, Matt. Funny and ever so on point.

Look...I recognize and I am sure you do also...that individuals can make great use of religion in their personal lives. I have no problem with that...and I hope most people don't.

It is the totality of religion that I see as a net negative for humanity. And the Bible is a particularly troublesome book.

I am the kind of person to welcome a conversation with a Jehovah's Witness from time to time...and if a person truly is committed to his/her religion, I easily understand the need to share and proselytize.

I've been know to do a bit of proselytizing for the "I do not know" position myself.

It can become a pain.

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@Nooneleft,

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ENOUGH of this phony crap already and just wise up, there is no damn god, get over yourselves!

You KNOW this how????

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@Frank Apisa,

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You KNOW this how????

I assume he know that in the same way/manner that most adults know that there is no tooth fairy or Santa Claus or Geek or Roman gods or ..................

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@Setanta,

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ontribute a good deal to relieve the suffering of others.

An cause and or increase the suffering of others all through history to this very day as for example the right wing American Christians promoting anti gay laws in Africa.

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@BillRM,

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I assume he know that in the same way/manner that most adults know that there is no tooth fairy or Santa Claus or Geek or Roman gods or ..................

You KNOW what they say about assuming things!

If there is no tooth fairy or no Santa Claus or no Greek or Roman gods...

...would that necessarily mean there are NO GODS?

MY GUESS...he is guessing.

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@Frank Apisa,

Gods when you look at the concept is beyond illogical with special note when you add in an all powerful god that sit outside the laws of nature and can in fact change any of the laws at his or her or it whim.

The tooth fairy is a logical concept compare to some all powerful god existing.

Oh and without the all powerful concept then all you are just talking about is some superior being or beings that exist inside the laws of nature and therefore by my understanding is not a god or gods.

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@BillRM,

If there are those promotions in Africa there will be a traditional intolerance of homosexuals in the areas concerned. To go against such a tradition would result in those Christian groups having no influence in other directions which might well be for the greater good.

It is not possible to bring clean water to a village if you are not accepted in the first place. Nor would you have a voice in the ears of the leaders.

I might add that if I were to publicly proclaim on behalf of homosexuals I would anticipate that the ladies would give me some funny looks and make a jest or two behind my back. Not that I think they should. It is that I think they would.

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