Atheists... Your life is pointless

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If there were a god, how do you know, first that it is a "he," and second, how "he" would interact with people?

As usual, 90% of what you post is incoherent.

Once again, this is completely incoherent.

From my own personal perspectives...It is because I can personally experience God...I know it is not a satisfactory answer...but the only thing I can say is that everyone has this ability if they want to find God...The way this God explains things to me is that it could take the form of anything that it wanted...but that is how I see God make its presence known to myself...

What exactly did you not understand?

So "god" explains things to you? This is the very essence of hallucination.

Duh, i didn't understand 90% of that rambling bullshit you posted. You can't even consistently construct coherent sentences in what one sadly assumes is your native language.

No one cares what you have to say to them regarding their hatefulness...when you act that way...If you are not interested in their perspectives that you do the same hatefulness you try to tell them that they are guilty of...

Because it means nothing to explain how hateful someone is, if your method of explaining their hate, is in a hateful manner yourself...

Why do you always bring up hatefulness? I didn't say you were being hateful, just incoherent. I suspect that you're bringing up hatefulness now because you're preparing an exit for yourself.

That is the essence of what I am talking about...right there...It is like you can not help yourself from acting nasty or insulting someone? Why? Why does anyone deserve to be treated like that?

I only brought up the hatefulness aspect to try to prove my position...Since we have discussed it many times before...I did not bring it up to be hateful, or back out...I was trying to explain my position in a way that I thought would be easier to visualize...I apologize if I hurt your feelings...but I genuinely do not understand why you do not just refrain from doing it...

The first 2 things that came to my mind that were examples I could think of to explain my position were that you talk about others trolling, and you post about how hateful you think other members are...

No, I am not getting ready to exit...

Refrain from doing what? This is why i say you are incoherent. "Hatefulness" has absolutely nothing to do with what i am trying to get you to explain. You didn't hurt my feelings. I am just mystified. I asked you two simple questions, and you haven't given a clear answer to either one of them. The closest you came was some mumbled response about how people perceive "god." That raises another question of what authority you have to speak to that situation.

Izzy was trolling because he was taking the piss based on his own bizarre interpretation of what some other member had posted. I didn't say he was hateful, either. This is a prime example of why you are incoherent. You bring to a discussion your own prejudices toward the person who is attempting to talk to you, and your remarks, poorly articulated in the first place, just seem to come out of left field. "What the hell is he talking about now ? ! ? ! ?"

Sadly, I think hatefulness is a distraction to this conversation. We all have the capacity for hate. The important question (in my opinion) is how can we structure our reality (culturally/socially/religiously) to minimize the potential for hate to manifest and/or limit the negative consequences of such manifestations.

This thread is, at least ostensibly, about whether a non-belief in a deity can allow for a eudaimonic life. (The question of purpose.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaimonia

If we are going to look at sociological evidence to answer this question it seems very difficult to separate any belief structure from potential tribalisms. This is the power and weakness of personal labels.

I am a Christian therefore I feel the need to defend the faith. I need to defend the actions of others. I may even feel the need to rationalize the actions of others if they share my Christian label.

I am a Buddhist therefore I feel the need to defend my traditions, I need to defend the actions of others. I may even feel the need to rationalize the actions of others if they share my Buddhist label.

I am an Atheist (I actually am) I therefore feel the need to defend my non-belief. I need to defend the actions of others. I may even feel the need to rationalize the actions of others if they share my Atheist label.

Religions have purposes, they can be for good or for ill. It is a huge cynical mistake (in my opinion) to dismiss them simply due to "factual" errors. There is little utility in "combating" fanaticism with fanaticism. As Spade said "lead by example".

If you do not understand it yet...Then I do not know if you ever will...

All that I was saying in my first post towards you today...Is that (I think) it is completely disingenuous for you to go around and point out flaws such as trolling, or acting hateful...when it appears (to me) you can not see that you do these same exact actions that you constantly point out towards other people...Which means that (I think) that most do not take you serious because they can see the hypocrisy...as it appears to me that you point out others flaws, but you commit many of them yourself...So your proposed valid/invalid view points carry no weight with them because I think that most can see that by your actions you contradict what you try to explain to other members...

Or, You must be aware that you do these actions since you provide valid examples of other members actions that you critique...but then that means that you must not actually believe the notions you try to point out to other members as flaws are actually flaws...because you provide valid examples of others, but are unable to see that you commit many of them yourself...Or, you must know that you commit these flaws that you point out to other members...but do not really care about anything you are pointing out to anyone...because you know you do these flaws also...and you do not have a problem doing these flaws yourself. So all these other flaws you constantly point out about others must not be how you actually feel...Or you must not believe it is really as important as you say it is to others...

Or lastly, you point out other peoples flaws but you are currently unaware that many others may think you do the same exact flaws yourself that you point out to other members...So they don't listen...Or do not care...

I was also saying that I do not think that I have to take the time to give you my opinions about those 2 questions you have asked me...Until I personally see you act civil towards me...

The day that I see you act civil and just respect me as a person...No insults...no personal attacks...no condescension...the day you are asking me questions because I can feel that you are genuinely interested in my views...Is the day I will comply and answer every question I think I can for you and try to come to things that we can see eye to eye on...

And if you are just not interested...then that is cool...that is your view...but then I do not think that I have to ever take the time to actually explain how I actually view anything for you...

And if you are wondering why I started it today then? It is because that is exactly what you do towards myself...And I guess I thought that if I had done similar actions that you do to me...then you would be able to visualize exactly what I am trying to explain...but if you do not understand it after this post...then I am afraid that you will never understand what I am trying to point out and why...

Which is fine also...I guess it would be best to just ignore each other like we were...and I apologize for directing a post towards you today...

Allowing that Spade is under the spell of a hallucination says nothing about the concept of God or the value of that concept as interpreted by Jesus and Christianity. It would never be evidence for believing in atheism.

Evidence for believing in atheism is far more likely to be the convenience of the adept and quite probably within the confines of that field of operations sometimes called rumpy-pumpy.

I want to attempt one last try to make it as short and sweet as possible...

I think that you point out other peoples flaws, very often...but I think you are very hypocritical in what you point out to other members...very often...

All that I ask from you personally is respect...If you respect me, I will answer any question you ask me to explain...and I will respect you...If you do not respect me and come out with what I call an attack...Then I view it as I have no reason to waste my time explaining my positions...in depth...

If you genuinely do not care about respecting me...then that is alright with me...but then rather than not respecting you...I do not think I am ever going to take the time to explain anything about my positions...So don't bother asking...

Sorry I brought up the hate today...I will not do it anymore...

Love and Hate are not strictly opposites.
Both are opposed to apathy, which is in some sense worse than either love or hate. Love and Hate at the very least belie a concern. What purpose can there be without concern?

It is not that I do not have concern mate...I honestly do...But I would rather just kick the dust and move on then to continue to go in circles and attack someone because there may seem like no love...It is not who I am, or who I want to be....and I do not like acting like that...I do not have a better solution...I do not think I could moderately dislike someone...because we function but show concern...I think if we bump heads too much we show our concern by just being smart enough to just let the other person be...

I think "concern" is a loaded word.

I see what you are saying...a small amount of empathy?

All words are loaded. That is what meaning means.

You wrote,
and,

Then your first question is an oxymoron.