Atheists... Your life is pointless

It's a long row to hoe whatever you believe.

From my POV, it's not about rowing; there ain't no chance.

Reasoning logic I beg to differ not only the Catholic Church but all religious organizations are cults. The objective is a cult is to control the thinking of its members. Do you not believe that the very purpose for the Catholic Church to exist is to control the thinking of its followers? I was a member of that cult for 18 years but not for 18 years 1 day. They tried to control my thinking just as all other cults do. Most cults can use social pressure to brainwash their victims but in my case it didn’t work. My family continued to belong to the cult for a few years but they eventually left the cult also. We seldom missed mass and always attended on religious holidays and ate fish on Fridays. I still dislike fish to this day.
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Cult: a particular system of religious worship especially with reference to rites and ceremonies

Dictionary .com
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And in what way did you feel they tried to control your thinking? Or how did they try to brainwashed you? How could they have been controlling you, or brainwashing you, if you got away? Do you "think" that it is possible you just think they were? But it never happened? Because you never wanted to submit to God...But were being untruthful to your church? And were paranoid...

Izzythepush if you find a definition hysterical a dictionary should provide you with a very good time indeed. I did not write or edit dictionary.com I simply listed the definition of a cult which the Catholic Church meets. If you have a problem with the definition it is not with me but with dictionary.com.
If you are not satisfied with dictionary.com let’s see how “Webster’s New World College Dictionary” 4th Edition defines a cult.

1) A system of religious worship or ritual.

If it walks like a duck talks like a duck and looks like a duck and meets the definition of a duck it is a duck or a cult as the case may be.

Izzy do you believe all the definitions in dictionary are wrong or just the ones you don’t like?

The Catholic Church is a cult as are all other religious organizations the definitions proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. It does not matter whether it is worldwide or the religious cult up the street. The Moonies are also worldwide cult also. You can’t outgrow cult status. Just because you are a successful cult doesn’t mean it is not a cult.

You seem to have a very caviler attitude toward child rape. To say a few children with sore bottoms diminishes one of the worst crimes in our society. Next you will tell us the victims were responsible for their own rape. It was something they wore that day that made them irresistible to the Priests.

Spendius this was not a few Priests this involved this was a lot of Priests and in some diocese they dominated. They belonged to the Man/Boy Love Organization. This was a wide spread crime way that would make the mafia look like choir boys. When the Grand Jury report for just one city in America took 31 pages it should let you know how big the problem is. The majority of the victims were way too ashamed to report this.

After one priest was accused of raping 10 children the Cardinal told him “to keep a low profile.” Some of the children who were raped by priests committed suicide. But I am sure it wasn’t a problem as long as it didn’t affect the church’s reputation. I am sure the church would prefer the children commit suicide for the “good of the cult.”

These “regrettable offences” were made possible by conspiracy of the higher ups in the Catholic Church the Bishops and the Cardinals who hide the problem for decades so the church would not have to deal with a scandal. The extensive cover up for decades added 10s of thousands of additional victims.

This wasn’t careless training the Bishops and Cardinals knew Da** well what was going on they knew these Priests were molesting children and instead of excommunicating them they transferred the molesters again and again.
Religious cults breed child molesters like stagnant water breed mosquitoes.

If Father Porter first victim had told his parents he would have no doubt been beaten unconscious by his good cult member father like the other boy that reported the abuse of his little brother.

Sorry. Just thought it was funny.

For a start Webster's dictinary isn't a source I recognise. I speak English, not American English.

Once something enters mainstream society it can't realistically be described as a cult, however broad a definition you wish to apply.

You make a lot of unsubstantiated claims, if you want those claims to be given a modicum of credibility you need to post links to your source(s).

You like making wild allegations don't you? First Spendi is a Holocaust denier, and now I blame the victims of sexual crime, not the perpetrators. If you bother to look at my posts on the Child pornography threads you'll find that the opposite is true.

Throwing mud at people who disagree with you is not a mature way to debate, and is symptomatic of someone with a hysterical mindset.

We are made by our Moms and Pops FB.

But it isn't as simple as that. The reproductive material of our Moms and Pops have to meet and for an orderly society the separate materials have to meet under certain conditions and having met other conditions are necessary to maintain us and the group to which we belong.

Using the blank space of a post box will you explain how you would organise this procedure from first principles which are all you have as an atheist.

I can suggest a few non-Christian methods.

You're asking me to explain everything that has happened since the Big Bang. Right.

Evasion.

You seriously want me to explain the evolution of the universe from the Big Bang on. Seriously. Read a science book. Or don't. Just keep believing that it's all the work of a magical sky-daddy, if you're not interested in learning anything.

http://fire.biol.wwu.edu/trent/alles/Cosmic_Evolution.pdf

No. Just go from Plato's day.

I have read more science books than perhaps I ought.

I don't think you have even an inkling about science.

Educate yourself. It's not my job. I have my own students to teach. If you've really read so much science, you wouldn't be asking silly questions about it.

praise the lord

You're not saying anything FB. You don't even seem to know that you are making a circular argument which starts with the premiss of what is silly and concludes that it is silly.

I assume that so many Americans doing that is because their teachers showed them the way.

It seems that you addressed the wrong person some how because I have not disagreed with you.

I won't debate biblical scripture with anyone, it's manufactured nonsense that has oppressed people since its inception, so what I'm left with is judging "god" or "jesus" on the behaviors of his followers and the massive crimes throughout history on people they brand sinners or less than men.

I'm coming to the conclusion that their Jesus must have been like them, hateful deceitful liars, the thousands of hate acts done in the bible are tainted and can never be made right, that's my perspective and it's not really up for debate.

Let me share what I feel. These fundamentalist Christians and atheists are both sickening in my opinion. Just opposite faces of the same coin. That's my perspective and it's not really up for debate.