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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:23 am
@izzythepush,
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So far we've had Boney M, something I pointed out long before it dawned on RL, and Frank kindly pointed out a passage about elders dealing with wayward kids, but nothing about being blessed for smashing your own kids heads on the rocks.

BTW mate...Just to chime in....I agree with you here...I do remember reading the same thing that RL had quoted in psalms 137:8-9...When I have read my Bible...

But I think that Zardoz is just confused...Or misread it...

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BillRM
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:28 am
@izzythepush,
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When someone who thinks that viewing Child Pornography is a victimless crime starts pontificating on morality, he really can't expect to be taken seriously
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Amazing how good Christians can knowingly lied to promote their own believes as I am all for reasonable punishments for such misdeeds on the same line as your own damn country[UK] have in placed as you well know.

An by the standards you wished to have in place over 70 percents of US federal siting judges should not be taken seriously as that group agree with the positions I been taking on the subject of CP also.

Lying for Jesus seems all too common............
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:47 am
@BillRM,
Nope, such as them not...

Like I said if even one person could deny they are the leader figure...Which is Jesus in the second coming...Then it is not God...

I do not believe they are Jesus, and I am sure that you do not...So it is not God....

BTW, The second coming is said to be like lightning coming taking people away...before the end times....

"From the east, and visible in the west..."
BillRM
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:49 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I do not believe they are Jesus, and I am sure that you do not...So it is not God....


I believe that those two men was as must the son of god as the so call Jesus happen to had been no more and no less.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:51 am
@BillRM,
You only care about violent/sexual criminals. You argued for the right of the state of Texas to execute a man without examining DNA evidence that could exonerate him. That makes you an amoral hypocrite.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:52 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
I believe that those two men was as must the son of god as the so call Jesus happen to had been no more and no less.


I believe the above sentence is meaningless gibberish.

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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:53 am
@BillRM,
Then I would say, regardless, if you agree with it, or not...You clearly do not understand what the scripture meant...
izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:57 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Understanding ain't BillRM's forte.
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BillRM
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:36 am
@izzythepush,
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You only care about violent/sexual criminals. You argued for the right of the state of Texas to execute a man without examining DNA evidence that could exonerate him


I think that there should be a limit to how many long decades you allow lawyers to play games over the death penalty in the case of the gentlemen he had countless hearings and two trials with the same results.

Thirty years or more is not uncommon wait before an execution occur.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 12:51 pm
@BillRM,
Thirty years is a life sentence, once they've served that long they should be eligible for parole.

If there is evidence that could exonerate someone, you shouldn't execute someone without examining it, regardless of how prejudiced you might be.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 12:59 pm
@izzythepush,
I agree with you mate...And will take it one step futher for my own beliefs...I do not believe in capital punishment for any reason...

But there is no doubt that I agree, that someone who could be exonerated definitely does not deserve to die...Or should not be killed...

And not to mention is costs more to execute someone then it does to even lock them up for life...


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Arella Mae
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 04:43 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Yes you are correct Bill...because Christians teach in Church on Sunday's to be extremists and fly planes into beuilding if you MUST
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See the story of Jonestown all good Christians that Jones convicted that god wish them to killed their children.




The bible is really clear about what a Christian is and what a Christian is not. According to the bible, Jim Jones was NOT a Christian. I understand why non-believers feel about Christians as they do. I really do. The problem is, not everyone claiming to be a Christian is a REAL Christian. The Book of Romans is really good at explaining what happens when we become Christians.
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 05:00 pm
@Arella Mae,
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The bible is really clear about what a Christian is and what a Christian is not.


I agree that I can find outstanding moral philosophy in the bible but I can't say that the whole bible is clear about it but if I cherry pick, I am able to construct a very good view of what I think morality should be. "at least in my opinion.

I find things that Jesus supposedly said that I think are immoral teaching, that others may have acted out on.

example.

Luke 19:27

But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
Arella Mae
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 05:41 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

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The bible is really clear about what a Christian is and what a Christian is not.


I agree that I can find outstanding moral philosophy in the bible but I can't say that the whole bible is clear about it but if I cherry pick, I am able to construct a very good view of what I think morality should be. "at least in my opinion.

I find things that Jesus supposedly said that I think are immoral teaching, that others may have acted out on.

example.

Luke 19:27

But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.


Yeah, that's another one they just love to throw out there hoping to make God look bad.

Explain something to me if you can. Why is it you'll believe anything bad (in your view) about God you find in the bible but ignore the good?
spendius
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 06:18 pm
@Arella Mae,
It's the Pope they are after AM. God is just the excuse.
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reasoning logic
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 06:23 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Yeah, that's another one they just love to throw out there hoping to make God look bad.


I have no desire to make a God look bad but I do have a desire to have people question their own beliefs about what they say is the word of God

I Do not believe in a God but who knows maybe one exist but I just can not imagine how he would be a God that all the different religions claim him to be.

The reason I say this is because I see so many moral flaws in their books and I would not think that something as awesome as a God would allow it.

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Why is it you'll believe anything bad (in your view) about God you find in the bible but ignore the good?


I try not to believe it but rather understand it.
I see nothing bad about a God because I see nothing that supports a God as being a part of the bible.

I have said many times That I consider myself to be a Christian atheist because I was brought up as a Christian and I share many of the values that Christians do but I also think that we could all learn more from social science.

I am not saying to give up your bible but rather read it and come to your own understanding.
Listen to everyone theist and atheist alike but don't believe them because we may be misleading you. Even when you do come to your own understanding "Know for certain you may be wrong about them.
Arella Mae
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 06:34 pm
@reasoning logic,
More often than not, you are pointing out what you feel is negative about God and completely ignoring the good, so it is rather hard for me to believe you are truly seeking understanding of the whole picture.
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 06:43 pm
@Arella Mae,
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More often than not, you are pointing out what you feel is negative about God


I see it as pointing out how our morality is wrong and that we need to advance past what the church is teaching as truth.

I do not have a problem with a church If it can realize that it could be wrong in it's teachings but cant it at least talk about what we can do about the social injustices and immoral behaviors along with many other things that social science may be able to help us with? We love the material side of science, we even use statistics at times in it but when we start talking stats in social science people run to the church rather than to understandings.
Arella Mae
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 06:52 pm
@reasoning logic,
You just don't get it, do you? God is not dealing with people in the New Testament as He did in the Old. We, as Christians, are not going around wiping out other groups of people at the behest of God like in the Old Testament. If you don't like what God did in the Old Testament, that's fine, but you keep wanting to go back to that instead of recognizing what Jesus told us. Love our enemies, bless those that curse us, etc., etc. So, all I am seeing from you is you cherrypicking the bible to back up what you think God is. Let me ask you something, if you used to rob banks for a living, but you gave it up how long and how often do you think I should bring up what you used to do? Should I ignore any good you have done since you quit robbing banks or should I just remember you as a bank robber that stole from people, etc., etc.

Your only pointing out what you don't like about God is as effective as if I only pointed out what I think is good. It won't work. It would only convince me we both have a bias. I can admit I am not fond of a lot of the stuff that God did. Too bad you can't admit any of the good.
reasoning logic
 
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Sat 29 Dec, 2012 07:15 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Let me ask you something, if you used to rob banks for a living, but you gave it up how long and how often do you think I should bring up what you used to do? Should I ignore any good you have done since you quit robbing banks or should I just remember you as a bank robber that stole from people, etc., etc.


If I was a human I would hope that I would be forgiven But If I told you I was God I guess You may want to forgive me as well But would you truley want to worship me?
Do not even churches have orders in place for divorced people and so forth and what position that they can hold in a church? What about a child molester? you may forgive him but will you continue to believe that he should be trusted alone with your child?

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Your only pointing out what you don't like about God is as effective as if I only pointed out what I think is good


That is very good. I think you are on to something. It is cool that you see my flaw if that is what you think it is but what about the later of what you said? How many times do I have to say that there is outstanding moral philosophy in the bible but there is also the opposite.

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I can admit I am not fond of a lot of the stuff that God did.


Maybe you should tell him he was immoral if you think he was. Or do you think you should listen to others who have different agenda or others who are just mislead?
 

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