Atheists... Your life is pointless

You mean, you just thought you drop off a little snottiness--thanks Bill, we can always count on you . . .

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John Creasy wrote:

PS-Maybe if you did go to some meetings you wouldn't be so angry.

It is wonderful how quickly those with feeble arguments which are easily shot down decide that their interlocutors are angry. You flatter yourself, and completely without cause--you're nothing to me . . .

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Setanta wrote:

Anyone with long experience of AA knows that the membership forms a closed club, similar to the corporate "old boys network," and that AA members "take care of their own." It is very profitable for all concerned, i've seen in action, and its what my sister constantly describes as the biggest perk.

So what's your point?? There can be a lot of connections in the rooms, does that make it insincere?? Does that mean it doesn't work???

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John Creasy wrote:

I'm improving myself every day.

That is a matter of opinion, with which, as you might well imagine--if you are possessed of an imagination--others of us would not readily agree.

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Setanta wrote:

You flatter yourself, and completely without cause--you're nothing to me . . .

Na you're not angry. Rolling Eyes

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Setanta wrote:

John Creasy wrote:
I'm improving myself every day.

That is a matter of opinion, with which, as you might well imagine--if you are possessed of an imagination--others of us would not readily agree.

What other people think of me is none of my business. Very Happy

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John Creasy wrote:

Na you're not angry. (emoticon removed in the interest of good taste)

That's right, i'm not . . . i'm contemptuous--there's a big difference.

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Setanta wrote:

You mean, you just thought you drop off a little snottiness--thanks Bill, we can always count on you . . .

You wouldn't know a sincere comment if it bit you in the ass. Your crass comments have come to be expected. You continually degarade posters and, therefore, expect that every comment is a derogatory comment about you. How immature of you. Of course, you will now drag out one of your canned speeches about how idiotic I am.

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Doing fine.

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Re: Atheists... Your life is pointless

John Creasy wrote:

I've always wondered why people that are so adamant about the non-existence of God, debate morals and what is right and wrong. If there is no God and this world is truly just a cosmic fluke, than your life and everything that happens in it are of no consequence whatsoever. Why not just do whatever you want and not care about others. After all, survival of the fittest is the name of the game right? Love of others is just some accidental emotion that means nothing. So do whatever you want. Your life, your children's life, and your children's children's life will all be over soon and nothing will be remembered.

You are naturally assuming that if someone is an atheist, does not believe in God, then they don't believe in morals and good too. I think there are two kinds of atheists in the world - 1) Who don't believe in God but believe in morality and goodness of heart and living life meaningfully, and 2) Who don't believe there is a God and so because they believe there is no higher power to check them they believe that they can live an immoral life and get away with it. There's a big difference in the two kinds of atheists. As for 'survival of the fittest,' if that were true, there would be no disease around at all, but the fact there is, means that one can be poor in health and still survive. Survival would be a function of the sheer will to survive mainly. Of course it doesn't mean that having a strong will to survive would mean that one could fight any disease, no, just like if one was healthy, a disease could come and if the will was weak, the person would still die. Right? So, just 'survival of the fittest' cannot be true.

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Setanta wrote:

John Creasy wrote:
Na you're not angry. (emoticon removed in the interest of good taste)

That's right, i'm not . . . i'm contemptuous--there's a big difference.

Don't forget bitter.

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I drink myself and am happy with my level of doing that.

I have friends who have stopped through AA and without AA. The ones in AA do show addictive patterning to the group, but are thankful, for the most part, for the group. As an outsider I've seen their lives circumscribed by who they hire and deal with, and that is none of my business. I sometimes see a poormevictimology, usually with good data, but so do many others have good data.

I back off to whatever gets you through the night.

Of folks who have quit without a group, AA or other, and did it by themselves, most have moved on, but one did regress after the eighth year and then joined AA.

I think it is all rather sad in that spirits and wine can enhance enjoyment of food, can be, at a moderate level even good for you... need not always be a road to obliteration. I think that obliteration is a cultural number, on top of whatever genetic susceptibility may reign.

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Intrepid wrote:

You wouldn't know a sincere comment if it bit you in the ass. Your crass comments have come to be expected. You continually degarade posters and, therefore, expect that every comment is a derogatory comment about you. How immature of you. Of course, you will now drag out one of your canned speeches about how idiotic I am.

Exactly what one can expect from the self-satisfied self-advertising christians. I've met many christians i like and respected, not a one of them spent their time touting their personal virtue the way you do.

By the way, i've never before encountered the verb "to degarade" . . . you got a definition of that?

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John Creasy wrote:

Setanta wrote:
John Creasy wrote:
Na you're not angry. (emoticon removed in the interest of good taste)

That's right, i'm not . . . i'm contemptuous--there's a big difference.

Don't forget bitter.

Nothing for me to be bitter about--you and whatever passes for a life at your house are meaningless to me. You've done me no harm, and can do me no harm. It's all just dancing electrons, boy . . .

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Do you have a definition for self-satisfied self-advertising christians? If one has virtue, it does not need to be touted.

You seem to be judging typos today. Not only in this thread to me but to others who you consider believers.

You can have the last word. I tire of sparring with you.

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Good, so let me post this, so as to assure that you don't have the last word . . .

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Set,

I can see where John Creasy and others may think you are bitter and, as you have pointed out contemptuous.

Merriam Webster's defines contempt as:

1 a : the act of despising : the state of mind of one who despises : DISDAIN b : lack of respect or reverence for something

So, I can see where they would also think you are angry. And for myself, the fact that you say things like "whatever passes for a life at your house are meaningless to me" at least I find that honest.

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Good on ya, Set. These self-rightous bastards bore me too! Their christianity makes them believe they're better than others.

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Welcome back, CI. I hope you had a nice vacation. Oh, and Christians are not better than others. Different, yes. We believe that God is better, but not ourselves. Oh, and most of us are not bastards. As a matter of fact, did you know that you do not even have to be a Christian to be a bastard? Yup, can happen to anybody. A product of birth really.

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The kind of "bastard" I'm talking about has nothing to do with their birth. LOL

Thanks for the welcome back.

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