Atheists... Your life is pointless

@spendius,

Maybe, it is just me mate...And you see it a bit different? But I think you do not have to defend yourself from someone who has said that they enjoy laughing at how rediculous you sound...

I find credibility to what you have to say...So please continue to post mate...Not that you have to adhere to my views to find worthyness to be here yourself...But you get my point...As long as one is listening...Your words are not going unnoticed...

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@Frank Apisa,

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If a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should have that right.

She should run away from the risk of a pregnancy she would want to terminate. But having been carefully positioned in your crosswires by your patronising woman-hating drivel she probably feels that there is no alternative but to risk it. You might have a little tantrum. Oh dear!

Prof. Greer says it all. Bob Dylan agrees. So did Mailer. As did Ovid long before the Christian era.

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For ideally a Great Bitch delivers extermination to any bucko brave enough to take take carnal knowledge of her. She somehow fails in her role ( as psychoanalysts, those frustrated stage directors, might say) if the lover escapes without being maimed to the nines or nailed to the mast.

An American Dream.

Maybe the bloke in an abortion should share a similar fate and have an ear removed. He should certainly be vasectomised so he can't do it again.

Has a woman the right to undergo a series of abortions until the scans show she will get what she wants? Has she the right to ingest chemicals to produce specimens for a freak show? Has she the right to gluttonise herself up to 30 stone?

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@Frank Apisa,

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I think such a man would be a bit of a scumbag.

Right. Then there are 50 million scumbags walking around among you. Which, not all that carefully analysed, is about one in two. And such is the shame associated with abortion that you don't know who they are. One in two and you don't know who they are makes every bloke suspect.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5187879)
Honestly Frank...I can't really see how you could "love Spendius"...If you enjoy laughing at his positions? Or think his positions are so rediculous...They are worth laughing at?...And if you think he has no skills of relevance to refute what you are saying...? What is funny about that? And what do you love about that?

I love him despite his many faults...and the fact that I disagree with him so completely.

Don't you love people regardless of those things?

How can you not understand that?

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@spendius,

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Yeah!! Only because I am pulling my punches about 90%.

Sure! You've got lots more ammunition, but choose not to use it.

God, you are so funny you ought to do a stand-up act.

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@spendius,

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She should run away from the risk of a pregnancy she would want to terminate.

Earth calling Spendius. Earth calling Spendius.

If she is already pregnant...how the hell could she run away from the risk of getting pregnant.

If a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should have that right. If you want to call her names and spit on her because she managed to get pregnant...do that. But if she IS PREGNANT...and she wants to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...she should have the right to do so.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Sure! You've got lots more ammunition, but choose not to use it.

That's right. Absolutely. This is a genteel, MOR, site don't you know.

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@spendius,

Yeah.

Saddam Hussein tried to use that same nonsense, Spendius.

You see where that got him!

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@Frank Apisa,

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If she is already pregnant...how the hell could she run away from the risk of getting pregnant.

She only got pregnant because the liberal agenda allowed her to take risks she would not be taking if it wasn't providing backstops. Providing the backstops got her pregnant. The proper backstop is marriage. Shotgun if necessary.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Saddam Hussein tried to use that same nonsense, Spendius.

Have you run out of arguments?

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@spendius,

I see...so now you not only want to limit the right of a woman to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body...you want to limit when and how she can engage in sex.

C'mon, Spendius. Get real.

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@spendius,

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Saddam Hussein tried to use that same nonsense, Spendius.

Have you run out of arguments?

Not even close!

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@Frank Apisa,

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I love him despite his many faults...and the fact that I disagree with him so completely.

Don't you love people regardless of those things?

How can you not understand that?

I did not say that I would not love what you have just said...Or do not understand that...

I said I do not understand the logic, in what seemed like ridicule...Not universal acceptance...

Think about what you posted, then what I did, What you posted in your last post to me, and this one....And tell me if you really think that this is what you were doing?

In the first ones, it seemed as though you were ridiculing Spendi...

Now it seems as though you think, or are trying to make it seem like you are embracing him regardless of what he has to say...?

The better question would be do you really think you are embracing him regardless? Or were ridiculing him?

If you say you feel that you were accepting him, and not ridiculing him...

I understand your view...But I would have to say that I do not agree that that is what you were doing....If you really want to know how I feel about it...And whatever you feel my opinion is worth to you...

But in any event, it did not seem to bother the victim or Spendi...

So I will stay out of the way...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

Look Spade--I don't give two fucks what Frank thinks, says or does. He is nothing but a platform for me to make anybody reading here think very carefully before they become a party to an abortion. I have zero interest in what he says. It is a waste of time arguing with him. I'm addressing an audience. And it is free to make its own mind up.

If they are persuaded by his argument fair enough. It is quite a plausible argument superficially. It is their affair. I presume it consists of people who have come of age.

On a one to one basis I wouldn't give it more than half a minute of my time. My ideal objective is to render abortionists redundant for lack of business.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Not even close!

What else have you except claiming a woman has the right to do what she wants?

An American lady posed the question of ingesting bleach and other chemicals in order to produce freaks. And we have seen a few examples of having to take the roof off houses to get an obese person to the hospital using a crane. The selectivity function of abortion is already in use. Selecting for sex or for more convenient times.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5187968)
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I love him despite his many faults...and the fact that I disagree with him so completely.

Don't you love people regardless of those things?

How can you not understand that?

I did not say that I would not love what you have just said...Or do not understand that...

I said I do not understand the logic, in what seemed like ridicule...Not universal acceptance...

That probably is because you are doing that paraphrasing you seem to delight in. Try quoting my exact words...and question me on it.

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Think about what you posted, then what I did, What you posted in your last post to me, and this one....And tell me if you really think that this is what you were doing?

In the first ones, it seemed as though you were ridiculing Spendi...

Now it seems as though you think, or are trying to make it seem like you are embracing him regardless of what he has to say...?

The better question would be do you really think you are embracing him regardless? Or were ridiculing him?

If you say you feel that you were accepting him, and not ridiculing him...

I understand your view...But I would have to say that I do not agree that that is what you were doing....If you really want to know how I feel about it...And whatever you feel my opinion is worth to you...

But in any event, it did not seem to bother the victim or Spendi...

So I will stay out of the way...

Once again...quote what I said...and we can discuss it. DO NOT COME BACK WITH ONE OF THESE LONG WINDED POSTINGS. PICK A PARTICULAR QUOTE OF MINE...and let us discuss it calmly...with respect and friendship. Then we can go on to another if you choose.

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@spendius,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5187996)
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Not even close!

What else have you except claiming a woman has the right to do what she wants?

An American posed the question of ingesting bleach and other chemicals in order to produce freaks. And we have seen a few examples of having to take the roof off houses to get an obese person to the hospital using a crane. The selectivity function of abortion is already in use. Selecting for sex or for more convenient times.

I am delighted that despite the fact that you insist you do not care what I say or think...that you are spending so much time discussing this with me, Spendius. I am spending the time discussing it with you, because I find your reasoning fascinating...albeit a bit bizarre.

I have NEVER claimed a woman has the right to do what she wants. I have asserted my opinion that a woman should have the right to terminate a pregnancy occurring in her own body. If you cannot offer any substantiation for your allegation that I "claim a woman has the right to do anything she wants"...you ought really to be man enough to acknowledge that you simply made that up.

If you want to discuss that further, Spendius, I will be happy to accommodate you. If you want to create straw men and then fight them...do so. You do not need me for that. You are both sides of those kinds of conversations.

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@Frank Apisa,

Spendi says he does not give 2 fucks what you think...So it is not a business of mine anymore...I said what I needed to say...And it was because I thought it bothered Spendi...Because it would bother me if someone did that to me...

So like I said I will stay out of the way...It now seems like I was being intrusive...

When all I thought I was doing was making people aware of things they did not know...

And Frank...I should not have to quote exactly what you said...If I am putting what you said into my own perspectives to ask you about what you have said...That is the same exact thing as not plagerizing...And taking someones words, and putting them into my own...

If you would like me to quote what you have directly said...And then say what I think you are saying by what you have quoted...Then that makes it look like I am putting words in your mouth, that you never have said...and is a form of plagerizm...

All that I can do is hear what you say...And break it down in the words, or ways I understand them to ask you about what you say...

Think about it...Would it be different if I asked you this last message above without the quote about posting exactly what you have said or not?...I will show you what I mean...

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Once again...quote what I said...and we can discuss it. DO NOT COME BACK WITH ONE OF THESE LONG WINDED POSTINGS. PICK A PARTICULAR QUOTE OF MINE...and let us discuss it calmly...with respect and friendship. Then we can go on to another if you choose.

All that I can do is hear what you are saying...And break it down in the words, or ways I understand them to ask you about what you say...

Does it make a difference if I quote what you say or not? Does it change what you think about what I am saying? Or does it make you think differently about what you have to say?

And I am sorry you do not like reading long posts Frank...But I often have a lot to say from a little information...

I cant change who I am...And I am not going to start doing that...If I dont want to do that...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

SpadeMaster...

...with all the respect in the world...

...you are as close to being incoherent as anyone I've ever engaged in one of these forums.

You apparently think you have something to share.

Good...share it. But I would suggest you put a bit more pride in what you write. Mostly, you ramble.

And as for quotes...you simply do not know how to properly characterize what people say. You have done a terrible job of paraphrasing what I have said earlier to you...and now, to Spendius.

Do whatever you want, but if you think my request for actual quotes is unnecessary to a reasonable discussion...you are dead wrong.

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@Frank Apisa,

I respect your opinions Frank but I think you are dead wrong...

Do you think you ramble at times? And are incoherent at times or not?

Far be it for me to point out a flaw of someone else...

But I see this as fair game now...

And I mean this with all the respect in the world...

You sure seem, to me, to not be able to understand a lot of different people at times...Or ask them to explain things again...Is it possible that you just do not understand what other people are saying? Or do you think that they are all incoherent at times?, Because you can not understand them? Ask them to re-explain things? Or tell them "you are not sure what they are saying here"? Is this possible? Or is it just me who rambles? Does not take pride? And am incoherent? Because you can not understand me easily?

I will make sure that I quote what you say...And then give my opinions about what you say...So that I know for sure you understand exactly what I am saying about your own quote(s)

Did you understand me? Or was I rambling? Or too incoherent for you to understand?

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