Atheists... Your life is pointless

spendius I came across a video that uses your language "shagging" you are like the only one that I know who uses that word so I thought that you may have an interest in signing up to this new site.

I gave up college sex at an early age rl. It was too easy. Knowing that you're being shagged is not the same as knowing why.

Why are you being shagged if you think you are?

I can't make head or tail of that question rl and I pondered it for a while.

What were you pounding on?

This is a must see video.

Reasoning Logic, good video the points he makes are valid. Most of the stories in the bible are far older than the bible and as old as written record itself they are stolen whole cloth form other cultures. The bible is for the most part stolen from other older mythologies.

It is interesting to watch the expression on the Christian’s face as he is unable to hide his obvious doubts. He is like a fighter who is on the ropes and cannot get his balance back. For those that it has been decreed that they must believe as a little child believes it is very hard to participate in a debate with adult.

Frank, America is over 200 years old and we have yet to create our own religion. It is high time that we create a new religion that takes into account the state of current knowledge. New religions systematically take into account the knowledge at the time of their birth. We are free to imagine a far more sophisticated god and abandon the nasty god of the Old Testament to mythology. In our new religion we will call our god, “all that is.” Everything in the known universe is a part of “all that is.” Every molecule, every atom, every plant, and every animal is a part of “all that is.” We are like individual cells in our body. Certainly we could not define a cell as us but we acknowledge that every cell of our body is a part of the whole. We are all linked and a part of the whole but we labor under the illusion that we are separate from “all that is.” There is no heaven and there is no hell. The only death we face is the death of our ego and the illusion. Like matter we can neither be created nor destroyed we only change form.

Churches and the worship of God would become outdated as the Model T. We would stop seeing people as bad and god as the source of all goodness. We would come to realization that there are both good and bad people and that the good people far outweigh the bad. If the reason to improve ourselves was not to avoid burning in Hell but to improve ourselves we could take credit where credit was due. We could stop excusing ourselves by saying the devil made me do it. Only when we take responsibility do we have the power to change our fate.

When I get the rest of the Last and Final Testament written I will let you know.

That's not such a good idea; those that have been "created" by Americans ended up in suicide.

So are you saying you are open to a theism? It sounds like you are...But if you start your own religion...And concepts, and God...Does this not destory the notion of a theism itself? What you described is a philosophy that you believe may work...But it is different than a theism, religion and Gods...Do you agree?

BTW I have said for a long time, that I believe that atheism is an actual belief...

Do you agree with this?

Do you think it may be the start of this new philospohy you think may work? Or is it different to you?

Scientology isn't a religion? Some say that Mormonism is a separate religion from xtianity, but I guess I'm probably just splitting hairs here, anyway. Nvm.

It does not matter much...The point still has merit...If it is Scientology that Zardoz embraces...As I am not sure if your post was meant for me, or if you were talking about my post and Zardoz's...It would not matter much if it is different than atheism or not...If it is looked at as a religion...And Scientology believes that theism's were created by people, and are flawed...And a new theology needs to be implamented...It does not make sense how if they believe that other theologies or Gods, or religions were instituted that failed...It does not make sense why they would believe that their theism or religion would succeed once created...Under the same or similiar conditions that these other theologies were...And if it was to succeed it seems it would have to be different than other theologies or I can't see a reason why it would not...If they believe that other ones are flawed...That is why I asked him/her if his/her beliefs go against the natural concepts of a theology?...Whether they call it a religion or not....And that is why I asked him about atheism, and not Scientology...

Because Scientology seems to me, to argue in favor for atheism, and not a religion...

But it also argues in favor of what I have said that atheism is a belief...

That is why I am curious if he or she considers atheism a belief like I have said before...

Or this new Philosophy...Whether it is atheism or Scientology that he/she embraces...




One other question...I understand the X-mas thing...But what is the point of the Xianity?

Do you or others believe that Christianity is not based upon the faith in Jesus Christ, but another?

If you believe that Christianity is based upon Jesus but not true or incorrect...I do not understand the "X" as whether or not Christianity is correct, or not...Or if people believe it is true or not...It is still a religion based directly upon Christ? No? What does the "Xianity" mean to you?

If you believe that Christianity is based upon pagan religions....

Do you put "Christ" at the beginning of these pagan ones?

People do spout some awful bullshit around here. Zardoz doesn't know nearly as much as he pretends.

Leaving aside the flash-in-the-pan cults, at least two major religions have been created in the United States, without counting the fundamentalist and charismatic, Protestant offshoots of existing sects. Those are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (the "Mormons") and the Jehovah's Witnesses. I distinguish the JWs from the fundamentalist and charismatic sects because of radically different basic theology which leads other Protestants to deny that they are Christian. The LDS is based on an entirely new "revealed" scripture (The Book of Mormon) presented by Joseph Smith, which also leads many Protestants to deny that the LDS are Christians. Whether or not either group are Christians is irrelevant to the undeniable fact that they are major religions created in the United States.

I don't have a political, religious or philosophical basis for spelling it "xtianity." It's shorthand. When I write something formal for a class, I spell it "Christianity." I don't think spelling out "Christ" will give me the cooties or religion or anything.

Thanks for the response...I think I understand why you do it...As it has no relevance to whether or not Christainty is based upon faith in Jesus, even if you feel it is not correct...But because it is easier to type...

I know it would not give you religion or cooties if you did spell it out...

That is part of the reason why I was not sure as to why you did it...And why I asked you

The process of modification of dogmatic canon and the fragmentation of religious organizations if constant, and could reasonably be said to be endemic in all churches. Christianity began the process within a few centuries when it split between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. Even earlier, Syriac and Nestorian Christians had established their own sects. I don't recall if the Nestorians survive, but the Syriacs do, and they are divided among the Orthodox (those loyal to the Patriarch) and the Catholic (those loyal to the Pope). All of the small sects of the middle east are divided in that manner.

The first major "heresy" of Christianity was Arianism. Eusebius, who wrote the Nicene creed was probably an Arian, although it seems he got a pass at the time of the council. The Vandals and Visigoths who colonized North Africa were Arians, so others were hardly in a position to coreect the error of their ways. Several major, allegely heretical sects formed in Europe, including the "Perfects," called Cathars by the Church, the Lollards, the Waldensians and the Hussites. The Cathars were exterminated by a crusade in the 13th century, and the Lollards more or less disappeared without too much violence (some burnings in the reign of the religious fanatic Henry V). The Hussites and the Waldensians are alive and well, it not numerous. They all predated Martin Luther. The so-called Puritans were an offshoot of the Calvinist movement, and although they ostensibly were members of the Church of England, they, too separated. In North America, they became the Congregationalists, a sect so strong, that well into the period after the American Revolution, they had formal religious establishments in Massachusetts and Conecticut. That old faker Thoreau was not jailed for failing to pay his taxes, historical myth notwithstanding, and the taxes he failed to pay was the Massachusetts church tax--a well-wisher paid the tax for him. The explosion of charismatic Christianity in England and North America in the early 18th century established at least one major sect--Methodism--and resulted in deep divisions in North America among the Congregationalists ("Old Light" and "New Light"), the Presbyterians and the Baptists (the Baptists have continued to fragment, well into the 20th century). The Baptists were a sect of charismatic Christians in Germany in the early days of the Reformation, and were called the Anabaptists, because they opposed infant baptism. They were considered dangerous, and were accused of "free love" and the communal sharing of wives. New sects and the fragmentation of existing churches is nothing new, and appears to be continuous.

It is not restricted to the Christians, either, by any means. Islam early split into Sunni and Shi'ism, and those two major sects have themelves fragmented. I have hardly scratched the surfce of the tale of fragmentation and dissolution, and of new foundation, among major religions in the history of the world.

It is a nice thought but when you go through a transition such as that don't you need to have a war to get others to believe this new religion? We might need to burn some nonbelievers at the cross or something.

Interesting thoughts, Zardizm although there are some flaws which others have already mentioned.

I do have a question on one thing you wrote:



You KNOW that how?

Or is it just a "belief"...like the "beliefs" the theists have that there is a Heaven and a Hell?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=RI4UdNPPg78&feature=endscreen