Atheists... Your life is pointless

@FBM,

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If you can't/don't plan to use language according to prevailing linguistic and syntactic conventions, it's best to cease responding to me.

Spendius wrote: Not for everybody. Check out Rabelais. Self-doubt, crippling guilt and shame skyrocketed in step with the spread of television.

Liberation is a relative concept. Being able to afford more and more of it is simply a function of our confidence and economic success. "You didn't do that". In straightened times it is not affordable and dealt with appropriately.

I'll allow that I don't understand each point that Spendi made here, but the notion that it doesn't follow "prevailing linguistic and syntactic conventions" is absolute nonsense, FBM.

And you say that you actually take money from the Korean people to teach them English?

There's an old saying describing teachers like you;

As long as the body is still warm, hire that person.

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@John Creasy,

I agree totally with what you mean a atheist if he had nobody to argue with they would believe that we just die and decompose and just nothing happens. The bible shows that we have spiritual bodies within our decomposable ones. Scientists are coming to god in many ways, some profoundly change. Humans are afraid of death so much that we deny it. Charles Darwin wrote in his memoirs he was afraid of death. Though Atheists refute he did indeed recant his beliefs. to be precise Voltaire also recanted his beliefs he didn't die a atheist, but an agnostic. He mentioned on his death bed breathing and smelling sulfur as he was dying. I believe a good atheist can go to heaven I don't believe in hell fire preachers, but in a sense an atheists always recants during a near death experience. it has never failed yet.

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@Randolph Boyer,

Not everyone is afraid of death; it has nothing to do with religious belief.

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@cicerone imposter,

Look at his profile. It says he's a creationist. A2K is going to be a bumpy ride for him. I hope he doesn't ditch on us before we finish playing with him.

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@RST,

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Look at his profile. It says he's a creationist. A2K is going to be a bumpy ride for him. I hope he doesn't ditch on us before we finish playing with him.

You have been at A2K for less than 3 months. What makes you think we aren't finished playing with you? You seem to have latched on to the notion that the majority of A2K'ers are non-theists -- which seems to be valid -- but nevertheless does not mean a "bumpy ride" ought to be expected for those who do not view things as you do.

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@Ticomaya,

Ticomaya wrote:

You have been at A2K for less than 3 months. What makes you think we aren't finished playing with you? You seem to have latched on to the notion that the majority of A2K'ers are non-theists -- which seems to be valid -- but nevertheless does not mean a "bumpy ride" ought to be expected for those who do not view things as you do.

Bring it on.

And yes, he's going to have a difficult time supporting the creationist bull ****, as well as many other false beliefs that he beliefs derived from his theistic belief.
Don't think I'm gonna cut him any slack.

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@RST,

RST wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
You have been at A2K for less than 3 months. What makes you think we aren't finished playing with you? You seem to have latched on to the notion that the majority of A2K'ers are non-theists -- which seems to be valid -- but nevertheless does not mean a "bumpy ride" ought to be expected for those who do not view things as you do.

Bring it on.

well, the gauntlet has been thrown.

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And yes, he's going to have a difficult time supporting the creationist bull ****, as well as many other false beliefs that he beliefs derived from his theistic belief.
Don't think I'm gonna cut him any slack.

I don't give a **** whether you "cut him any slack", do I?

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@Ticomaya,

Your name is an anagram for "ya i m taco," and a thousand dicks to your religion good sir, whatever that means...¿¿??

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@RST,

Yeah, whatever that means. Good comeback.

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@Ticomaya,

It depends, does your religion consider uncircumcised dicks as "unclean" and "unholy"?
If not, yes, it is not a good comeback.

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@RST,

My religion does not consider dicks.

So, yeah, shitty comeback.

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@Ticomaya,

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My religion does not consider dicks.

Why? Was it because new participants were unwilling to undergo a painful operation to join the sect? Your "savior," Jesus, did it.
Which then leads one to ask if Jesus ever existed, historically?
How do you feel in believing a myth propped up to be a reality by your religion?

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@RST,

He might well feel that "love thy neighbour" is better advice than "let the Devil take the hindmost" which is the scientific perspective.

The main gospels were written within living memory of Jesus. To question the existence of Jesus, a rather desperate gambit, is to question the authenticity of the gospels.

And, assuming Jesus was circumcised, He would have had it done to him very early in his life. He would not have done it.

America, as a concept, is a myth. The reality is a large heap of dirt sticking up out of the waters on which human beings can maintain their lives in a passably agreeable manner as long as they find some way of setting aside the natural "devil take the hindmost" determination. Which means behaving unnaturally.

What do you suggest for achieving that? Your only other alternative is to let nature take its course.

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@spendius,

I think you miss the mark by a wide margin. There is no unnatural behavior in the universe. Every atom and molecule is exactly where it should be, according to perfectly mundane laws.

"Devil take the hindmost" is among the most ludicrous, shallow and ill-informed caricatures of scientific reasoning I've ever read. Social Darwinism got shot in the ass a long time ago. Catch up.

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@FBM,

You'll overheat your assertion pump if you're not careful FB.

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Every atom and molecule is exactly where it should be, according to perfectly mundane laws.

That's free will emptied of meaning. And all the atoms and molecules after the dust setlled on 9/11 are where they should be are they?

And where does "should" come from?

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

You'll overheat your assertion pump if you're not careful FB.

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Every atom and molecule is exactly where it should be, according to perfectly mundane laws.

That's free will emptied of meaning. And all the atoms and molecules after the dust setlled on 9/11 are where they should be are they?

And where does "should" come from?

How would that dust be anywhere other than where it should be? And what is this free will of which you speak? It's an archaic concept. Catch up. http://videolectures.net/eccs08_haynes_udofdithb/

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@FBM,

Your link is merely a rehashing of the argument of the Marquis de Sade.

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@spendius,

I'll give credit where credit is due: that's a new one. Explain, please?

And while you're at it, please explain how you watched a 90-minute video in 15. Wink

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@FBM,

I didn't watch more than a few minutes. The title was enough really but when I saw a scripted movie fantasy brought into the argument I gave up.

The Divine Marquis laid it all out having studied Julien Offray de La Mettrie, a French military physician and philosopher, and one of the earliest of the French materialists of the Enlightenment. He is best known for his work L'homme machine ("Machine man") which derives from Descartes.

Some think la Mettrie was executed by poison at the table of Frederick the Great to whose court he gone for refuge after being sentenced to death elsewhere.

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@spendius,

And the relation to neuroscience? Are you saying that the famed Marquis performed a series of carefully designed and controlled experiments to collect empirical data on the electrical potential of neurons vis a vis the conscious awareness of decision-making?

Funny you should mention scripted movie fantasy whilst defending Abrahamic theism and the collected myths of Bronze Age, pre-literate goat herders. Laughing

If you're too resistant to modern developments to watch a whole 90-minute ground-breaking video, maybe you'd bother to check out the Cliff Notes version:

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v11/n5/abs/nn.2112.html

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Unconscious determinants of free decisions in the human brain

Chun Siong Soon1,2, Marcel Brass1,3, Hans-Jochen Heinze4 & John-Dylan Haynes1,2

There has been a long controversy as to whether subjectively 'free' decisions are determined by brain activity ahead of time. We found that the outcome of a decision can be encoded in brain activity of prefrontal and parietal cortex up to 10 s before it enters awareness. This delay presumably reflects the operation of a network of high-level control areas that begin to prepare an upcoming decision long before it enters awareness.

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