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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
FBM
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:51 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Cheers, mate. And as an English teacher, I can't help but recommend that you go on a comma diet. Wink Just kidding. Sort of.
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Zardoz
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 07:05 am
@John Creasy,
My dear scared little child how it must suck to be you, to go through all the days of your life in fear of death. In fact so in fear of death that you clutch at any wild fairy tale. Until one can accept the specter of death one cannot embrace nor appreciate life. The hold of superstition has on modern man is unbelievable even when he knows that all the evidence debunks his dark superstitions he clings to them even more desperately.

Religious cults and they are all religious cults live in the vivid imagination of their followers. Some seek so hard to believe that they will believe in anything. Charley Mansion’s followers were nothing more than a religious cult that made Charlie Mansion their god.

You like most religious cult followers understand nothing about morality. Morality exists in man and it was religious cults who lifted morality from man and claimed as their gift. People do not need religion to be moral but religion needs to claim that it is the fountainhead of morality. At eighteen I had no problem seeing through the crap that was organized religion. I was raised in a religious family that never missed church or mass on a holy day. I attended all the required classes on religion and I told my mom on my 18th birthday I would never go into a church again. At 62 I have keep that promise with the exceptions of weddings and funerals. I have never doubted my decisions for a minute but the preachers who tried to change my mind soon began to doubt their faith.

No I haven’t lived the life of a serial killer, in fact I never took the first drink, or used an illegal drug. I spent much of life helping people as a union officer and union president. At work I put con men behind bars those that steal from the elderly. I always tell the victims of cons to watch out for the religious scammers who start out the conversation with what a good Christian they are. I tell them run don’t walk away.

Most people arrested for child molestation around here are “good” Christian preachers and many of the victims I knew were molested at good Christian functions. Don’t tell others about morality when you don’t have a clue. I think people are attracted to religious cults because they lack a good moral compass themselves and hope to substitute someone else’s that is far worse.

As for me like Caligula, “I have been here since the beginning of time and I will be here when the last star falls from the sky.” What we think of as us is in a constant state of flux changing as cells die and others are born, very few of the cells that made up our body at birth are still alive at age 20 year nor are most of those cells at age 40. The narrative of self survives the living tissue and even that is edited to suit our self-image.

We may never know which came first the chicken or the egg? But we will always know that man came first and he made up religion to explain his existence.
John you are looking for answers you will never find in the darkness of superstition. Whenever you think you have found the answers to life the floor will fall out from under you. You will seek a false sense of security in numbers. Herd animals live and die by the number of other people going the wrong direction.
Setanta
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 07:21 am
Ah, you're a slick one Zardoz. You are addressing someone who has not posted at this site in almost seven years. You needn't expect that he will respond to your contempt and your bile.

http://klausming.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/zardoz.jpg

Smooth move, Exlax.
aspvenom
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 07:42 am
@Zardoz,
No drugs nor alcohol, and you're 62. Props to you.
So what's your secret?
Zardoz
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 11:46 am
@Setanta,
You know what they say, when you walk into a bar room you pick the biggest guy in the place out and knock him out first. The principal is the same on bulletin boards. Since John Creasy started the thread that looked like the place to start. I have spent months on line arguing with professional religious cult leaders. When their every argument is laid waste they go back to their religious cult and hang their head. One local preacher insisted that as a condition of him continuing the argument that I meet him in person for coffee at a local Starbucks. I told him I didn’t drink coffee and I was afraid of the Kool-Aide from religious cult leaders. He was good to his word and never posted another sentence.
spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 12:09 pm
@Zardoz,
It looks as if the local preacher picked out the biggest mouth in the place and called it out.

Lay this argument to waste--

The Christian Church is an elaborate attempt to calm the bellicose passions of the flock. Take it away and you have to use the police or not bother calming those passions.

Which do you prefer?
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 12:33 pm
@Setanta,
I would never have thought in a million years that Setanta would post a picture of himself. I guess when you have and big ego you will do just about anything. Shocked
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Zardoz
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 05:25 pm
@aspvenom,
Aspvenom, not everyone feels the need to alter their body with chemicals just as not all men feel the need to dress up in women’s garments. I was somewhat goal orientated as a child and I knew that I wanted to drive race cars. One of the other pieces of information I learned as a child was that alcohol killed brain cells. I figured to race I would need all the brain cells that I had and I made a concerted effort not to kill the brain cells I had.

My race cars have been parked for a decade or so but I still never felt the need for drugs or alcohol. I have seen the damage done to doctors and lawyers that frequent the streets as bums and I never developed a taste for that.
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Zardoz
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 05:45 pm
@spendius,
Spendius, that was many local preachers friend and they all had a losing argument from the time I was in high school forward. Everyone has no trouble seeing the ignorance in other people religious cult but refuse to acknowledge the ignorance of theirs.

You make the same mistake the religious cults make, you believe that men are evil and only gods are good. That my friend is religious propaganda, gods are no more than imagination, and most people will agree that 99% of gods are people’s imagination and that only their god is real. If in fact 99% of Gods since the beginning of time are indeed imaginary than how did imaginary gods maintain morality? All societies eventually encode morality into law. Religious cults seldom have the force of law only government can make laws. When the Catholic Church, was at the panicle of power it gave the world superstition and torture. The instruments of torture developed by the Catholic Church stand today as monuments of man’s inhumanity to man. They learned to use green wood to prolong the agony of those they burnt at the stake because they so enjoyed the screams of the tormented.

The rule law is the only thing that keeps the religious right from reenacting these monstrosities today. It is only man’s morality that stands between you and their imaginary god’s vengeance.
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 05:50 pm
@Zardoz,
Quote:

You make the same mistake the religious cults make, you believe that men are evil and only gods are good.


I see you are like the rest of us and talk about things you do not know. Laughing

spendius is an atheist but he supports the catholic church.
spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 05:54 pm
@Zardoz,
That's a long winded way of not answering the question. Not being a coffee drinker is more efficient.
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spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 05:57 pm
@reasoning logic,
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spendius is an atheist but he supports the catholic church.


Only if it makes sense rl. Which it does.

What do you think of a man who places his lady love with whom he is engaged in romantic love at risk of needing an abortion in order the shoot his load?

It seems a bit misogynistic to me.
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:12 pm
@spendius,
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What do you think of a man who places his lady love with whom he is engaged in romantic love at risk of needing an abortion in order the shoot his load?


I will be honest with you spendius this is a man in my opinion who is not truly in love, "I could be wrong though spendius but this would be a reason for a woman to do such a thing if there is not a man willing to take the challenge of raising a family.
It really should not be mine or your business what a woman wants.
spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:14 pm
@reasoning logic,
It damn well should. That's what we are for.
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:16 pm
@spendius,
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It damn well should. That's what we are for


For control of women?
spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:17 pm
@reasoning logic,
Yeah.
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:18 pm
@spendius,
you are a sick puppy.
spendius
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:20 pm
@reasoning logic,
They had 2 million years in charge rl. Look where that got them.
reasoning logic
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 06:29 pm
@spendius,
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They had 2 million years in charge rl. Look where that got them.


Is this what you are referring to when you say "look where it got them?

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Wilso
 
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Sun 25 Nov, 2012 10:07 pm
Spendius is an ignorant alcoholic dipshit who's too much of a coward to even quantify his own beliefs. Don't try reasoning with him. It's a waste of time and energy.
 

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