Atheists... Your life is pointless

Frank's position was blown up long ago. Along with all other timeless philosophies. The sociological content has been stripped away by the timelessness.

The original Logical Positivism of Auguste Comte, which was very much concerned with the social implications of the epistemological views it represented, was taken over by modernisers (A.J. "Freddie"Ayer--"female students are for shagging"---without any reference to social implications. Ayer persistently denied that LP, his version, had any ethical or social implications and one might readily understand why. Such ideas are, of course, innocuous and try hard to be so.

To be sure it frightened some people a little. It is very radical to consider the social revolution involved if "verification" or "verifiability" of all our ideas and convictions was the only manner of scrutinising them. One needn't go anywhere near proscribing them or even despising them to arrive at the enormous revolution involved if we simply insist, as Frank often does, that their logical standing or lack of it be exposed to view.

Ayer style Positivism is like a Samson who pulled out the supporting pillar and the edifice didn't even tremble. And as Ayer didn't wish a revolution, him having the sort of job which revolutions redirect towards other occupations such as crossing sweeping, he had to ignore the social implications of his philosophy.

Which, if there is any point to anything, is a logically indefensible neutrality.

It is also necessary for such a philosophy to ignore differences between types of societies and differences between past and present and the way in which such differences are intimately bound up with the standing of various kinds of knowledge. Such a neutral philosophy, spineless some would say, is insensitive to the connection between the social order and its cognition valuations and to social alternatives.

It alienates itself, quite deliberately, from the social order it lives in. It imagines itself aloof from the sordid details of social life and seeks to have no useful input into it. It is entirely fascinated with itself.

Which point was that Frank?

Even the seven year old girl that gets raped, body dismembered and thrown in the dumpster?

When your forgetting their is a Devil in all of this, whether a cunning creature, or is made up of all the evil people on the Globe...

Tell me, how an Atheistic society would stop this/these actions? And if you admit it will never stop, does that mean that atheism is bogus? Would it be fair to blame atheism, in the future, if they have a society?? Or does it just mean that you realize certain people are psychopaths? And a theistic approach of reaping what you sow, and being repaid, and all wrongs will be righted make more sense to you, as well??

Tell me, how an Atheistic society would stop this/these actions? And if you admit it will never stop, does that mean that atheism is bogus? Would it be fair to blame atheism, in the future, if they have a society?? Or does it just mean that you realize certain people are psychopaths? And a theistic approach of reaping what you sow, and being repaid, and all wrongs will be righted make more sense to you, as well??

If we could at least acknowledge that our understanding of things could be incorrect and always be open minded to better understandings, I do think it could be possible that we would be much better off.

One can no more rationally discuss the effect of "the Devil" on society than one can rationally discuss the effect of "god" on society--which is to say, not at all.

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