Atheists... Your life is pointless

@Frank Apisa,

Also, it's a "guess" whether Santa Clause exists or not.

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****, I'm going to regret this!

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@Setanta,

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No, they aren't "guessers," either.

Yes they are…as I explained above.

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That is just a pejorative swipe at those who don't accept your dogmatic (and selective) agnosticism.

No it is not…it is simply stating a truth.

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I don't guess about whether or not there is a god.

Okay…so you don’t. Does that mean nobody else ever does? It is not always about you, Setanta.

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To every claim about a god which anyone has ever offered me, i just say "i don't believe that." That is not only not making a guess, that is refusing to make a guess.

Okay, that is what you do. But it is not always about you, Setanta. Some people do make guesses…and some people do call those guesses beliefs. Which is all I said.

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Come up with a plausible definition for a god, and i might discuss that with you. Good luck.

Yup. I’ve had Christians pretty much say that same thing about the other side of the picture. I usually just ignore the Christians doing that because they are close-minded and I don’t waste my time with close-minded people.

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@izzythepush,

izzy wrote:

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Doesn't your anecdotal evidence say more about the differences between living in the UK and living in the USA than who's right or wrong?

Having lived in both countries I think you're right.

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@Setanta,

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Yeah, i've seen that vid before, it's hilarious. Don't be fooled, though, usually i'm rude as hell--that was an isolated incident. Ordinarily, the god squad only evokes immediate and intense contempt in me.

And that differs from your usual demeanor in what way?

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@spendius,

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The statement that someone has "no firm belief about God" is the agnostic position.

Yeah, but some atheists have trouble coming to grips with that.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Over 80% of Americans are religious, and the Catholics are now trying to control women's reproductive organs. What more can I say?

"Although, to be fair, spendi has raised the possibility that the Church is trying to control men's attempts to take control of those things and to leave them as nature intended. His idiotic inebriated noggin claims that there is not one un-natural recommendation in its teaching."

You could have added that to show what an even-handed regular guy you are.

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@Frank Apisa,

No, it's just a typical Frank pejorative description of anyone who does not embrace his dogmatic position. Your "agnosticism" only extends to the question of god, so it's not the omnibus position of intellectual integrity which you attempt to claim it is. I've recently pointed out to you that "guess" and "believe" are not interchangeable terms, but you ignor that because of your dogmatic insistance on the use of "guess."

Certainly it's not all about me, but that is a meaningless observation unless you assert that my point of view is unique. Can you state with any certainty the proportion of atheists who can be described as explicit or strong atheists, and what proportion are implicit or weak atheists--or are you just guessing?

Your implication that i am close minded is typical of your sneering, passive-aggressive insults. But it's also hilarious--i've rarely met anyone who is as close-minded about a subject as you are about this one. For you, Frank, it's your way or close-minded guessers. It's also pathetic.

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@Setanta,

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No, it's just a typical Frank pejorative description of anyone who does not embrace his dogmatic position. Your "agnosticism" only extends to the question of god, so it's not the omnibus position of intellectual integrity which you attempt to claim it is. I've recently pointed out to you that "guess" and "believe" are not interchangeable terms, but you ignor that because of your dogmatic insistance on the use of "guess."

Certainly it's not all about me, but that is a meaningless observation unless you assert that my point of view is unique. Can you state with any certainty the proportion of atheists who can be described as explicit or strong atheists, and what proportion are implicit or weak atheists--or are you just guessing?

Your implication that i am close minded is typical of your sneering, passive-aggressive insults. But it's also hilarious--i've rarely met anyone who is as close-minded about a subject as you are about this one. For you, Frank, it's your way or close-minded guessers. It's also pathetic.

I guess that brings us back to my question of above: "And that differs from your usual demeanor in what way?"

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@Frank Apisa,

Don't sneer at me about demeanor, you puling hypocrite. You slam and denigrate others who have the temerity to reject the gospel according to Frank at every opportunity. Your demeanor is that of a schoolyard bully.

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@Setanta,

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Don't sneer at me about demeanor, you puling hypocrite. You slam and denigrate others who have the temerity to reject the gospel according to Frank at every opportunity. Your demeanor is that of a schoolyard bully.

I don't think so...and I think a reading of our posts would bear me out.

You are one of the rudest individuals I've ever encountered, Setanta. Not sure what makes you so prone to insulting people and denigrating them the way you constantly do, but it is an incredibly unattractive trait. You ought really to do something about it.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Some people do make guesses…and some people do call those guesses beliefs. Which is all I said.

Which isn't much Frank. It's banal. It says nothing anybody doesn't know. We guess all the time without evidence that our guess will be right. We act as if it is right or we start dithering. We might even get catatonic. There are people who never leave their house because they haven't got 100% faith in a guess that it's safe outside. Those who have faith feel it just as you have faith that it is safe for you to go outside. It's taken for granted. And for many people today it wasn't at all safe to go outside.

Can't you see that the only thing that matters is whether certain general beliefs, from one end of the range to the other, are useful or not from an economic point of view. And those JWs Setanta erects his world changing theories on have jobs. Jobs Frank.

If such jobs are to be eliminated on the basis that they are unnecessary jobs then there might be a lot of other jobs eliminated on the same principle. Setanta has a part-time job working for some dogs. And I bet he can eat a beefsteak with relish.

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@MontereyJack,

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it has to do with spendius, not with atheism.

But this question below...

I wonder if any of them are actually courageous enough to answer your question of, If they answer in an affirmative on an atheist society, What they actually want us to buy into>>>??

Has to do with you, and atheism...Not spendius...

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@spendius,

Spendius, you quoted me saying, "Some people do make guesses…and some people do call those guesses beliefs. Which is all I said."...

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Which isn't much Frank. It's banal. It says nothing anybody doesn't know.

If you think it is banal…and something everyone “knows”, Spendius…that is your right. Personally, I think most people who are saying, “I believe there is a GOD”….do NOT know it is a guess—and would fight against anyone suggesting that it is.

I think most people who are saying, “There are no gods” (and there are many of those kinds of people) do NOT know it is a guess—and would fight against anyone suggesting that it is.

Calling it to everyone’s attention is anything but banal, Spendius.

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@Frank Apisa,

I have gone thru, and personally voted everyone of your posts up that had to do with you, and Setanta!!

He seemingly went from being a friend...In the post about your waxing for a glutton punishment post....

to alienating another person on here...In about a day's time...

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@spendius,

spendi, Have you ever heard the word "antiquated?" Try to learn the definition of that word, and you might get a clue.

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@cicerone imposter,

Would it not just be easier to explain it? rather than insult him??

Remember Spendi's post...

But the moon is not made of green cheese!

He (Spendi) was Spot on!!

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@Frank Apisa,

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GOD”

When it is God it is completely normal but anything else seems to be way out there. I guess that we would also be guessing that if a God created all of this, then something had to create God as well. I Guess that God could have just existed, we could say the same thing about matter itself.
Its all a guess, only God knows.

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@reasoning logic,

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When it is God it is completely normal but anything else seems to be way out there. I guess that we would also be guessing that if a God created all of this, then something had to create God as well. I Guess that God could have just existed, we could say the same thing about matter itself.
Its all a guess, only God knows.

You forgot, and if God is real, we will someday too!

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someone pm me when the point of all this hair splitting is made...

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@thack45,

Why do you do this?? If I may ask...Why do you chime in from time to time, to sneer at us...And basically say we are all idiots?? What do you think we do in threads like these??

How is it any different than other threads? Why do you come here?

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