Atheists... Your life is pointless

@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

What faults are they? Are you without fault?

A woman once told me that I had the body of a god. But then I found out that she was a Buddist.

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@Advocate,

Well, you actually have a sense of humour. Nice. Laughing

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Thomas wrote:

10,000 years is a lot less than 50,000,000 years though. That much is absolute.

Depends on the definition of a year, I suppose. I am surprised that people call the ancient people primitive and without knowledge, but they expect definitions of time etc. to fit with their present day knowledge.

It would seem, though, that this distinction cuts against you. Judging by the Bible's reports that Abraham and friends all lived to be several "centuries" old, it would seem that their "years" were shorter than ours.

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Bishop Ussher calculated the age of the earth, based on scripture, at somewhat over 6000 years. (Somewhat under in the 17th century, when he made his calculations.) He put the date for creation as Sunday, October 23, 4004 BC.

There are bristle cone pine trees in California older than that.

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@Setanta,

At 9;30 AM EST. We seek precision in our wag's

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

At 9;30 AM EST. We seek precision in our wag's

So really, nobody got to sleep in on that Sunday, huh? That old testament god was truly cruel . . .

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@Setanta,

Well, with all that firmament laying around, somebody hadda clean it up.

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Thomas wrote:

10,000 years is a lot less than 50,000,000 years though. That much is absolute.

Depends on the definition of a year, I suppose. I am surprised that people call the ancient people primitive and without knowledge, but they expect definitions of time etc. to fit with their present day knowledge.

It would seem, though, that this distinction cuts against you. Judging by the Bible's reports that Abraham and friends all lived to be several "centuries" old, it would seem that their "years" were shorter than ours.

What if they actually lived extremely long lives? Smile

. In any case, I do not subscribe to the young earth theory anhow. I see no reason that evolution and Christianity cannot co-exist and choose to have a faith and believe system that, although foreign to some, is my own choice and I shall not waiver. Of course if atheists,or anyone else, could provide actual proof that God does not and has never existed then perhaps I could be persuaded to change that stance.

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@Intrepid,

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or anyone else, could provide actual proof that God does not and has never existed then perhaps I could be persuaded to change that stance.

If someone can do the impossible and prove a negative then perhaps not for sure you would give up your fairy tale.

Poor poor insane person.

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I questioned why, were there a god, he or she would let children starve. Woody Allen had an interesting view on this. He said:

"If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever."

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

In any case, I do not subscribe to the young earth theory anhow.

I know. But Advocate's original point wasn't that you promote young Earth creationism. It was that the Bible does. The Bible is pretty specific about time intervals between the events it describes. By adding them up, one can calculate the date of the creation with acceptable precision. (At least that's how I understood Advocate's point. He can correct me if I'm wrong.)

Your answers were that a) time is relative and b) Old Testament Jews defined the years differently than we do. This suggests you have at least some interest in arguing that the Bible gives an accurate account of the time that has passed since the universe came into being. Did I misunderstand you? Or are you giving up this argument now? What?

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@Thomas,

Suppose Intrepid does give up and concedes your infantile point. What does that say about atheism? Apart from nothing.

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Intrepid is now quibbling. He is now saying that he doesn't accept everything in the bible. That is pretty convenient for him.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

Intrepid is now quibbling. He is now saying that he doesn't accept everything in the bible. That is pretty convenient for him.

How do you interpret anything I said as quibbling? What I accept and do not accept in the bible has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of atheism. Please explain what you mean by convenient for me. You are way out in left field and need a GPS to find your way back.

Are you an atheist because you do not agree with what is written in the bible or because you do not believe in God.

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@Thomas,

Whether I subscribe to the young earth theory or not. Whether I subscribe to everything that is written in the bible or not is of no consequence.

Thomas...show me where I have promoted the young earth theory. What does the creation have to do with atheism? Are atheists only atheists because they believe in a big bang? I enjoy a big bang myself, but I don't go all apeshit over it.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Whether I subscribe to everything that is written in the bible or not is of no consequence.

Then why go through all those contortions about time being relative and years being different in Biblical times than today? Why not just say you disagree with the Bible on this point? It would have saved us all a lot of time.

Intrepid wrote:

Thomas...show me where I have promoted the young earth theory.

You haven't. And, as I said, that hadn't been Advocate's point you responded to.

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@Thomas,

As I said....time is relative. If one chooses to waste theirs, that is entirely their perogative. Actually, wasting time is up for interpretation as well, depending on the waster or the wastee. Very Happy

I suppose atheists can consider the valuable time they save by not praying. I suppose.

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@Intrepid,

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I suppose atheists can consider the valuable time they save by not praying. I suppose.

I dont think, outside of a thread like this, started only to cast derision at atheists, all atheists dont even think of that at all. Thats one of the benefits, one doesnt wate ANY time at silly ponderings over anything religious.

DOing"the good" was a concept that occupied minds of philosophers of all stripes , both atheist and religious. The honesty of atheism is that it cant default shortcomings of the individual on to some mythical beast or celestial "Buddy"

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@farmerman,

Why would anyone foist their shortcomings off to anybody or anything other than themselves? You seem to be saying that atheists are more honest than anybody else. Rather a broad and sweeping generalization of your fellow atheists. No?

It is laughable that you state this thread (not even sure who started it now) was to cast derision at atheists. So far, I have only seen derision cast at those of religion on this thread. Maybe I didn't go back far enough?

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If heaven and hell disappeared on Saturday the church would be empty on sunday.

That all you need to know about these "spiritual" people.

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