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homosexuality is not 'unnatural'

 
 
Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 06:02 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner, I don't know what you mean...please elaborate.


Which part? The whole of it?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 06:03 pm
Questioner wrote:


There are also some rather obvious indicators that homosexuality isn't necessarily a natural tendancy. The posterior being made primarily as a one-way path being one.


Who says, first of all? Heterosexuals have anal sex all the time. And second, what are the other signs?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 06:07 pm
Bella Dea wrote:

Who says, first of all? Heterosexuals have anal sex all the time.


Seriously? That's why I like this site -- you learn something new every day.
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Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 06:26 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner wrote:


There are also some rather obvious indicators that homosexuality isn't necessarily a natural tendancy. The posterior being made primarily as a one-way path being one.


Who says, first of all? Heterosexuals have anal sex all the time. And second, what are the other signs?


Well, that's not really the point I was attempting to make. I'm not trying to put anyone in a shade of gray here, or to cast scorn on one group or another. For the record, i'm completely fine with homosexuality.

What I was trying to point out is that from a nature-inspired genetic standpoint, anal sex does not appear to be what the human body was programmed for. Thus, homosexuality is more likely NOT a genetic characteristic, but one of personal decision.

The other signs mostly revolve around the first. The human reproductive system appears to be set up to perform a specific function. The fact that people find ways of enjoying their bodies in other ways doesn't alter that function. So again, a nature-inspired genetic programming doesn't seem to include homosexuality in it. Thus I don't consider it to be genetic induced.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 06:49 pm
Bella,

Honest raw answers, huh? Ok, I promised. I would really consider that to be much more pornographic than I would art, especially the one about the goat (that was a goat, wasn't it?) and the guy with the Embarrassed , oh well, I think you get my drift. The craftsmanship is of course exquisite. And this is where we probably differ quite a bit. I think looking at this as more art than pornography is the problem. But, I have different beliefs than you do. So, we agree to disagree here?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:37 pm
Yes, we can disagree but the point was that the art was/is erotic, not pornographic. The word pornography didn't even come about until the mid 1800's and the word is derived from the greek meaning "writing/drawing about whores". I think that erotica is a much better term for this than pornography, but again that is just my opinion. I think that some of the work is pretty racy but is human in his basic raw nature. I love it and I don't watch/read porn. Thank you for your honest opinion.

Oh and the goat, yeah that was a little, uh, bizarre.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:40 pm
Ok, but I guess then we have to draw the line about where does erotic leave off and pornography begin? I will go this far, some of that could be considered more erotica than pornographic (IMO). But I still can't handle the goat thing.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:42 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
But I still can't handle the goat thing.


Laughing
It would freak me out if it were an actual picture.

But it shows you that stuff like that has been around for much longer than any of us can imagine.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:45 pm
Agreed Bella,

Look at Caligula. Prime example.
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John Creasy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:52 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
John Creasy wrote:


Where did you "prove" anything???

MA, these people have no love, and I certainly have no love for them.


Please go back and read my post where I back up my reasons for my opinions. All you seem to have is "it's my opinion!" and nothing else. You want to argue, then argue. But debating is more than you're wrong and I'm right.

We have no love? No love for immature, hate spewing cry babies maybe. I have plently of love for those who deserve it.


First, how am I a crybaby? You are awful quick to accuse me of this. I backed up my beliefs just as much as you did. The fact is, you can't "prove" that homosexuality is natural, nor can I "prove" that it isn't. What about this concept don't you get?
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John Creasy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 07:55 pm
Questioner wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner wrote:


What I was trying to point out is that from a nature-inspired genetic standpoint, anal sex does not appear to be what the human body was programmed for. Thus, homosexuality is more likely NOT a genetic characteristic, but one of personal decision.

The human reproductive system appears to be set up to perform a specific function.


exactly
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:02 pm
John Creasy wrote:


First, how am I a crybaby? You are awful quick to accuse me of this. I backed up my beliefs just as much as you did. The fact is, you can't "prove" that homosexuality is natural, nor can I "prove" that it isn't. What about this concept don't you get?

______________________

Your first post on why homosexuality being unnatural and why you thought so.

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I could easily argue that since sex is nature's way of propagating the species, that two people who have incompatible sexual organs have no business having sex. I don't know if that would be considered morality, but it doesn't have anything to do with God. That's just nature.


And here is where I started in on how sex is not simply about procreation therefore not unnatural. And you responded like this for the last 3-4 pages.

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Since when do I have to "prove" anything?? Prove to me that it IS only a religious issue. We are both stating opinions and nothing more.


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Get over yourself. If being a "big kid" means being an internet geek like you, then no thanks. BTW, you didn't prove anything, you just spouted off your opinions and insulted me for disagreeing with you. There is no proof to this issue, only opinions.


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Wow!!! YOU REALLY SHOWED ME!!! You go girl!!!!!!!

You are starting to annoy me with your arrogance. I challenged you back but you are apparently too good to answer me.


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Where did you "prove" anything???

MA, these people have no love, and I certainly have no love for them.


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Now, you tell me...where in any of those posts did you do anything but whine that you had "proved to me" and that I was a big mean bully?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:04 pm
John Creasy wrote:
Questioner wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner wrote:


What I was trying to point out is that from a nature-inspired genetic standpoint, anal sex does not appear to be what the human body was programmed for. Thus, homosexuality is more likely NOT a genetic characteristic, but one of personal decision.

The human reproductive system appears to be set up to perform a specific function.


exactly


Please note the part I've highlighted in red.

Then how do you explain the extreme pleasure derived from pressure on the prostate gland, which can only be achieved anally?
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:06 pm
And so you know, that post was meant for you John, not for Questioner who DOES back up assertions and arguments.

I, however, must take my leave of A2K for the night. Anxiously awaiting your answer.
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Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:09 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
John Creasy wrote:
Questioner wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner wrote:


What I was trying to point out is that from a nature-inspired genetic standpoint, anal sex does not appear to be what the human body was programmed for. Thus, homosexuality is more likely NOT a genetic characteristic, but one of personal decision.

The human reproductive system appears to be set up to perform a specific function.


exactly


Please note the part I've highlighted in red.

Then how do you explain the extreme pleasure derived from pressure on the prostate gland, which can only be achieved anally?


Because the prostate is one of the driving forces behind the male sexual drive, aiding in ejaculation. Jamming a finger, rod, or baseball bat produces an effect similar to what it does naturally during completion.
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Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:10 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
And so you know, that post was meant for you John, not for Questioner who DOES back up assertions and arguments.

I, however, must take my leave of A2K for the night. Anxiously awaiting your answer.


Oops.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:16 pm
http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/cheers.gifBest smile I have had all day!

Questioner, that was priceless.
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John Creasy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:43 pm
Your first post on why homosexuality being unnatural and why you thought so.

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I could easily argue that since sex is nature's way of propagating the species, that two people who have incompatible sexual organs have no business having sex. I don't know if that would be considered morality, but it doesn't have anything to do with God. That's just nature.


This is what you consider whining???


And here is where I started in on how sex is not simply about procreation therefore not unnatural. And you responded like this for the last 3-4 pages.

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Since when do I have to "prove" anything?? Prove to me that it IS only a religious issue. We are both stating opinions and nothing more.


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Get over yourself. If being a "big kid" means being an internet geek like you, then no thanks. BTW, you didn't prove anything, you just spouted off your opinions and insulted me for disagreeing with you. There is no proof to this issue, only opinions.


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Wow!!! YOU REALLY SHOWED ME!!! You go girl!!!!!!!

You are starting to annoy me with your arrogance. I challenged you back but you are apparently too good to answer me.


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Where did you "prove" anything???

MA, these people have no love, and I certainly have no love for them.


Now, you tell me...where in any of those posts did you do anything but whine that you had "proved to me" and that I was a big mean bully[/quote]

Ah yes, a question directed at the almighty bella must be crying. And you convienently left out your arrogant, smartass remarks in response to my alleged "whining." And all this coming from a broad who thinks we should worship dicks???!!! Shocked
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flushd
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:44 pm
I think I'll test out that baseball bat idea :wink:
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John Creasy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 08:51 pm
Bella Dea wrote:
John Creasy wrote:
Questioner wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Questioner wrote:


What I was trying to point out is that from a nature-inspired genetic standpoint, anal sex does not appear to be what the human body was programmed for. Thus, homosexuality is more likely NOT a genetic characteristic, but one of personal decision.

The human reproductive system appears to be set up to perform a specific function.


exactly


Please note the part I've highlighted in red.

Then how do you explain the extreme pleasure derived from pressure on the prostate gland, which can only be achieved anally?

I wouldn't know, I never have nor will I ever find out. So let me guess, you think God gave us a prostate gland for sexual pleasure???
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