ebrown_p wrote:old, you forgot "their country". These are Americans you are talking about (especially in the case of Miami).
okay, okay, okay. the thread is moving off of topic. which is, illegal immigration.
which means by definition that the people that we should be discussing are those that have entered the country without permission.
to eb;
just wanted to clear something up with you. i get the feeling that you want to take the conversation into a direction of, maybe not racism, but perhaps you feel that i'm prejudiced or one of the "real american" brigade.
let me tell you a little about our neighborhood. or at least our little street where we have lived for 15 years.
the city recently released numbers that stated that the makeup was 40% armenian, 20% hispanic and around 10% asian with black americans coming in at about 1-2%. immigrants make up more than 50% of the city's population.
not a lot of jueros here.
most of the culturals are clustered in their enclaves. without much in the way of diversity.
on the otherhand, our street is one of the most culturally diverse in our city of glendale. it is a couple blocks long and dead ends at the top of the hill. so it really is it's own little neighborhood.
until just a few years ago we were not only the only white family on the street, but were also the only native born americans. the apartment building we lived in previously was much the same. in fact, in the 30 years i've lived in the l.a. area, and the year or so in nyc, i have never lived in an all white or even all native born american neighborhood.
our new neighbor next door on the left is an anglo. our new neighbor on the right is filipino. my neighbor across the street is mexicano. she's single, has 2 nice kids and i try to keep an eye on them because they are both very young. i hang out with both of her brothers when they come around. her neighbors on both sides are armenian. one is a very nice fellow from yrevan, armenia. nobody knows where the other guy is from. he's a total ass and won't speak to anyone that's not armenian. and they have to be the right kind of armenian, i guess, because he won't talk to the guy from yrevan. go figure...
we also have new neighbors a couple of doors down. a quiet jewish fella and his korean wife. across the street from them is a korean family. very nice folks. farther down the block, the story is much the same. japanese, chinese, korean, mexican, guatemalan, armenian, italian, indonesian, a very pretty dark skinned girl from new zealand, and a couple of white, gay new wavers that blast Skinny Puppy cds on a regular basis. they get pretty interested when my posse shows up for the monthly, big ass jams. we blast away at the great volume that us rockers love to punish ourselves with. i mention it because not once have the neighbors called in the bulls to break up our noise fests. we all have a live and let live attitude, it seems.
we all get along just fine. we look out for each other. walk our dogs together. the dogs get along just fine as well.
some of our immigrant neighbors speak very good english, some speak only a little. but most try.
that's all i really expect from immigrants; what you called, "a little human decency".
okay. how 'bout those mets ??