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St. Andrew

 
 
Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 08:59 am
Who was my namesake, Saint Andrew? And, more specifically, WHY is he the patron saint of Scotland? This is a serious question. All that I know about the man after whom I was named is that he was crucified on an X-shaped cross, at his own request, so I hear, because he refused to be granted the same upright dignity of his Saviour. Apart from that, I have no notion why the Scots would have chosen him as their patron, nor any notion of WHY he was crucified or where.
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fishin
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:11 am
From a quick Web Search:

"Although Andrew and his brother Peter were two of the original apostles, very little is known about Andrew. He was a fisherman from Galilee, who went on to spread the Christian religion in Greece and Asia Minor. He is believed to have been killed by being crucified by the Romans on a diagonal cross in Patras in Southern Greece

Some 300 years after his death, the Emperor Constantine was going to move the saints bones, and legend has it that a monk was warned of this in a dream by an angel, who told him to remove the saints bones to the "ends of the Earth" to keep them safe.

Scotland was as near to the ends of the ancient Greek world as you could get, and that is how his remains came to be taken to Scotland. The monk brought the holy relics ashore at what is now St Andrews

A chapel was built to house them, and by 1160 a cathedral. St Andrews was the religious capital of Scotland, and the goal of many pilgrims

The saints remains have now disappeared, probably destroyed during the Scottish Reformation, when the strictures of Calvinism tended to wish to remove traces of Catholic "idolatry". The site of the relics is now marked by a plaque in the ruins of the Cathedral in St Andrews.

Interestingly, some of Saint Andrew's bones were taken to Amalfi in Italy. From there the church sent some fragments in 1879 to Scotland. And in 1969, Pope Paul VI gave some further relics to to the Catholic church in Scotland during a visit to Scotland

Saint Andrew's Day is celebrated on 30th November each year"
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fishin
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:14 am
And from another site a little more explanation on the "why" he was killed:

"According to later traditions , Andrew became a missionary to Asia Minor, Macedonia, and southern Russia. In 70 AD he was martyred in Patras, Greece. Having many coverts, he was feared by the Roman governor who had him cruxified on an X-shaped cross known as a Saltire Cross. (One of the many Medievil customs of torture). It is this shape that is reflected in the Scottish flag."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:16 am
Just a few minutes per day online, I actually found a question, which is easily to answer.

Have a look here, Andrew:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01471a.htm

And this is copied from the "britannica":

"St. Andrews,
city, royal burgh (1160), university town, golfing mecca, andformer fishing port in Fife council area and historic county, Scotland. Located on St. Andrews Bay of the North Sea 13 miles (20 km) southeast of Dundee, it occupies a plateau of sandstone rock about 50 feet (15 metres) in elevation, which breaks off to the north in precipitous cliffs. The Eden River enters St. Andrews Bay northwest of the golf links, which rank among the finest in the world.

St. Andrews was once the ecclesiastical capital of Scotland. Its religious traditions began in the 6th century, when St. Kenneth is believed to have formed a Celtic ecclesiastical community. In the 8th century the king of the Picts established a new church dedicated to St. Andrew, who was adopted as the patron saint of the Picts and thereafter of Scotland. Relics of the saint were brought there and acquired such celebrity that the place, first calledMucross ("Headland of the Wild Boar") and then Kilrymont ("Cell of the King's Mount"), came to be known as St. Andrews. About 908 the bishop of the Scots transferred his seat there from Dunkeld. In the early 12th century the bishopric of St. Andrews was regarded as the most important in the kingdom; it was raised to the dignity of an archbishopric in 1472, when its holder was recognized as primate of Scotland.

The medieval cathedral and priory began with a foundation of Augustinian canons established between 1127 and 1144 by Bishop Robert, who was prior of the Augustinian house at Scone, in association with the church of St. Regulus. In 1160 a larger cathedral and priorychurch was begun by Bishop Arnold and eventually consecrated in 1318. Built partly in the Norman and partly in the early Gothic style, it was by far the largest church in Scotland, with an internal length of 357 feet (109 metres). The cathedral and priory were enclosed by an elaborate precinct wall, much of which survives.

In addition to the Augustinians, St. Andrews in the Middle Ages contained communities of Dominicans (c. 1275) andObservantine Franciscans (c. 1450). The castle, ruins of which remain on a rocky headland near the cathedral, was erected about 1200 as an episcopal residence that was commissioned by Bishop Roger. An organized municipality was founded about 1140; it was granted mostof the privileges of a royal burgh by King Malcolm IV about 1160 and grew into one of the largest towns in medieval Scotland. In 1411 the university, the oldest in Scotland, was founded as St. Mary's College. St. Salvator's (1450) and St. Leonard's (1512) were added and were subsequently united after the Reformation.

As Scotland's ecclesiastical capital, St. Andrews was the centre of many of the most important episodes in the Scottish Reformation. After the triumph of the Reformers, the cathedral and priory were abandoned and fell into ruins. Nevertheless the town remained a place of considerable importance until the close of the 17th century. In the 18th century it underwent a serious decline, but it was eventually rescued largely through the efforts and civic leadership of Provost Hugh Lyon Playfair (1840-61), who revitalized the town, restoring its reputation as a university centre and developing it as a holiday and golfing resort.

The Royal and Ancient Golf Club, the ultimate authority in the golfing world, was founded in 1754. Some believe that golfers had been active as early as the 15th century. There are four main golf courses, the most famous of which is Old Course.

Of the buildings of the medieval city comparatively little remains. The cathedral largely vanished apart from the east and west gables and part of the south wall, but the priory precinct wall was preserved throughout virtually its entire length. The north transept (1525) of the Dominican church and a great part of the castle still stand. Holy Trinity Church, after undergoing considerable alteration in 1799, was well restored in the early 1900s and is one of the most impressive churches in Scotland. The town is notable for its wide, handsome streets and interesting 16th- and 17th-century domestic buildings, many of which have been protected by the local Preservation Trust, a conservationist body. Pop. (1991) 11,136."
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:19 am
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:19 am
Wow! Two of my best Abuzz friends coming in so quickly with answers! It's going to be a good Sunday. GrĂ¼ss Gott, Walter, and thankee, Fishin'.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:23 am
Fishin' -- I knew, of course, that Nov. 30 was the saint's day. That's one reason I asked the question at this timely time. Heh-heh.
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fishin
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:29 am
Mornin' MA! Until you asked this question I didn't really have any idea at all on who St. Andrew was. I play golf so I had heard of the famous St. Andrews golf course but had never looked up the relevance. I didn't know that the St. Andrew as one of the original Apostle's in the Christian religions.

History, Religion and Trivia all rolled into one here. I like these! Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 3 Nov, 2002 09:33 am
May I add that I did my first and last try to play golf has been in St. Andrews? (They told me, it wasn't the aim of this sport to play the ball in all pitches and sandbanks on the course ...)
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