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Sun 30 Mar, 2003 02:04 pm
To much of the world, Australia is still the unknown continent / country / island, the "Terra Australis".
Australia is different! Geologically, it's the oldest continent. It's the driest continent; least populated continent.
We're about the same size as mainland USA - therefore we're not one of those "cute little countries". But the population is less than 20 million.
This thread will give some basic information on what to see and do. A2K Australian members will tell about what's special in their area (eventually) and answer any questions (if they can!).
Australia is divided into 6 states and 2 territories, In alphabetical order:
New South Wales, the oldest. On the east coast. Capital is Sydney. Includes Blue Mountains, Hunter Valley wine region, and some fantastic beaches.
Queensland, on the north east corner. Capital is Brisbane. Also contains Cairns and the Great Barrier Reef.
South Australia. Capital is Adelaide. Also includes Kangaroo Island, great wine growing regions, Flinders Ranges and a good lump of desert! And Dlowan!
Tasmania. Small island to the south of the mainland. Capital is Hobart. Cool weather wine regions. Contains some great wilderness areas - hard fought for. Cradle Mountain / Lake St Clair, Franklin and Gordon Rivers. Bushwalking heaven!
Victoria. Capital Melbourne. Small state on south east corner. Great Ocean Road, mountains, national parks, beaches. Wine growing regions to the north.
Western Australia. Capital - Perth. The largest state, taking up the whole western third of the continent. Largely unpopulated. Mining areas, beaches, great natural beauty. Wine growing in Margaret River and others. Temperate forests.
The Australian Capital Territory. Small area in inland N.S.W. which contains the Australian capital, Canberra. Parliament House, National Library, National Gallery, Australian War Memorial, and all those other things that are usually found in a nation's capital, including politicians.
Northern Territory. capital Darwin. Not exactly considered a state, but... Home to the best known sites of Central Australia - Alice Springs, Uluru (previously known as Ayres Rock), the Olgas, Kakadu National Park. Mostly unpopulated, and harsh countryside, Also home to man-eating crocodiles. Do not ignore the signs!
As we prepare them, we'll add information about particular areas. Feel free to ask any questions about things we haven't covered.
The guides for this forum are dlowan and margo.
Extra special thanks to wilso!
Aside from being the capitals of their respective states or territories, what are Adelaide, Brisbane, Hobart, Canberra, Darwin and Perth like? Here in the US, we mainly hear about Sydney or Melbourne. Which are the hip places to be? Which are more retirees? Which are the most expensive? Which have the best colleges?
Oops, I think I just used up my allotment of questions....
margo, Africa is the "oldest" continent.

c.i.
Sheesh, Jes!
Adelaide. A planned city from the onset. Small, contained, refined. Respectable. But home to the famed bunny, Dlowan, so.....
Has a great arts festival every two years. It's small enough to be very liveable, although it can sometimes be too small, and people may know your business. I'm sure Deb will weigh in here - when she surfaces.
Hobart. Small city. Cool climate, livable. Not considered as hip as some other cities in Oz. Not too much to see and do - so a relaxing time. I don't think we have any A2K'ers from Tasmania.
Perth. On the far west of the country. A nice small city, quite modern, and thriving. Doesn't get too many tourists because of it's isolation, except perhaps from South Africa, and Asia. Easy living, and quite lively. The other end destination of the long distance train, the Indian pacific, fron Sydney. Takes about 2-3 days. Perth has good beaches, and the wine growing regions are quite close.
Brisbane. A middle sized city and a bit provincial. On the eastern seaboard - and close to the Gold Coast - think Miami, retirement heaven. Lots of golf tourists. The best parts are outside Brisbane - the Sunshine Coast and the gold coast hinterland are lovely. Otherwise, don't bother (Sydney opinion only here!)
Darwin. A really interesting city. So close to Asia, that here is a high Asian population, and a big aboriginal population - more than any of the other cities. Fantastic cultural mix, but can be a bit rough. Well into the tropics , so hot and humid. A starting point for Kakadu National Park, a Northern Territory must see. They are currently building a railway line through to Alice Springs, so you will be able to travel from Adelaide to Darwin by train!
As to colleges - this is not exactly my area. Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide all have good recognised universities, and there universities in all the capital cities and some regional towns. The college / university system here is a bit different to the US. It depends on what you want to study, and where you want to live, mostly.
Cost of living is highest in Sydney, mostly due to high real estate costs. Because of isolation, some things may be more expensive in some areas. The smaller cities are much cheaper places to live - but Sydney is probably the most interesting, exciting, vibrant, and just plain beautiful! (spoken as a Sydney-ite!). Melbourne is good, but the weather..... Adelaide, nice but small. (puts on crash helmet and waits for bunny to arrive!)
Feel free to ask any further questions that may add some interest to this forum. I'm off to console myself with some toast and Vegemite, and a cup of tea. And then to (horror) work! Monday morning, Yecccchhhh!
Thanks, margo! You've given me a much, much clearer picture of your home!
margo, Have you any idea what the "cost of living" is for the places you describe? In other words, what's the cost of a home or apartment? Cost of food and utilities? Cost of medical care/insurance? What kind of retirement benefits do you get from the government? Is there an "average" social security benefit? c.i.
Margo
Thanks so much for posting this. I am very curious about Australia, but didn't want to push my questions on you guys. I'll be watching for awhile and am sure I'll have some questions to ask myself.
Oh, while I'm here I should ask what kinds of animals are popular there and in what parts.
Thanks a million Margo ;-) I lknow I'll be back with more questions.
Pueo
What a great site. Thanks ;-)
As you'd probably already know, most of the Oz population lives in cities, particularly those around the eastern coastline. Margo in Sydney (aka "Sin City"

), dlowan in Adelaide, which I've always known as "the city of churches", but I suspect Deb has has far more colourful names & descriptions of the place.
I live in city no 2, Melbourne, which we're told is "the world's most livable city". Actually it's a very good place to be. I love it. Feel free to ask away about anything you'd like to know more about.
Here's a brief introduction:
Melbourne
Australia's second city is a place of
contradictions and
hidden charms. A leafy, bayside community on the
'upside-down', brown Yarra River, it is
cosmopolitan,
suburban,
cultivated,
football crazy,
conservative and
a haven for the avant-garde. Visitors come for its shopping, restaurants, nightlife and sporting calendar, encouraging
many Melburnians to believe that they live in one of the most civilised cities in the world.
Population: 3.4 million
Country: Australia
Time: GMT/UTC +10
Telephone Area Code: 03
Illawarra is the region of New South Wales south of Sydney stretching from the Southern Highlands to the Pacific Ocean. The region contains seaside resorts as well as lush rural countryside. The Illawarra has contrasting landscapes, lifestyles and attractions.
The Illawarra stretches from Seven Mile Beach in the south to Stanwell Tops in the north and includes some spectacular coastline. Inland, nestled along the mountain escarpment, lie valleys, rainforest and waterfalls along with rural paddocks and farmland.
Kiama is home of 'The Blowhole', the beaches, river and rainforest. Just a short drive away, at Jamberoo is the Minnamurra Rainforest with many species of ferns, trees and wildlife. Nearby is the Jamberoo Recreation Park.
Further north is the thriving city of Wollongong. There is an abundance of patrolled beaches and scenic tourist drives along the coast.
The South Coast is the region between the Illawarra and the Victorian border with the Great Dividing Range as it's western border. The region includes Nowra, Batemans Bay, Cooma and Bega. A coastline of sensational, unspoilt beaches and coastline are the regions main drawcard, however there are also the hills, hinterland, wilderness and dairy farming areas.
The area has an focus on "cultural tourism" with an abundance of artistic, creative and historical features as well as the natural environmental attractions.
Illawarra population approx 250 000
Illawarra facts.
Wollongong is just one hour by road or train south of the Sydney CBD, and less than an hour from Sydney Airport
The Nan Tien Temple, located at Berkeley, 5 kilometres south of Wollonong it is the largest Buddhist temple in the Southern hemisphere and is open to the public.
Wollongong Universitywas named Australian University of the Year, 1999-2000, and has an outstanding international reputation.
Lake Illawarra provides an abundance of fresh prawns in season, and fish all year round. Along with the various water sports including sailing, skiing and windsurfing. (not so true at the moment-this lake has been badly affected by the drought, and is the subject of much controversy)
Wollongong has a mild, sunny coastal climate with winter temperatures averaging 17 degrees and a summer average of 27 degrees tempered with sea breezes. Most rainfall occurs betwen February and June.
Wollongong's rich multicultural background is celebrated through the annual Viva La Gong Festival. The festival showcases the region's cultural and performing arts in novel and innovative ways. The diverse activities are well attended and range from concert recitals and song and dance spectaculars through to street parades and food fairs.
....and most importantly, Wollongong is the home of....Wilso!
Wollongong has a mild, sunny coastal climate with winter temperatures averaging 17 degrees and a summer average of 27 degrees tempered with sea breezes. Most rainfall occurs betwen February and June.
we're talking celsius right?
Looking from Stanwell Tops down the coast