goodfielder wrote:I am a bit reluctant to post this but what the heck. Isn't this one of the sings of fascism? Of course that assumes the academic who is pushing those 14 indicators of fascism knows what he's talking about. But when the person and state become one it's on the path. I am reminded of one of the Bourbon Kings, can't remember which one, Set will know though - "l'etat, l'etat c'est moi!" Or something akin to it.
Of course it's not unpatriotic to demonstrate against a President or a Prime Minister for that matter, they're not the state, some of them are not even statespersons, they're just temporary politicians. The state exists separate to them. They will pass, the state will go on.
I think the theories of monarchy/state were different under Louis - the state was, in many ways, him, in those days.
But - to the present.
I agree - the current thinking presented here by the right re protest/patriotism is scary. (I presume it is echoed by many right folk in the population of the US generally)
Even Howard deliberately made the point that disagreeing with the war, for instance, was fine - but asked that it not be personalised against Australian troops - so different to the awful rhetoric of a number of the right here.
Overall, I think Oz less scarred by patriotism than the US, and this was a good example.