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Gia-no need to apologise.Your contribution is valued.

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I take issue with the scripted word taking place between action shots.

What do you mean exactly?

I'll study your posts.

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flushd-

There you go.Now there's two enquiring minds of the scientific party wish you to explain.Three of us find aspects of sex scary.That it is on another level from stuff in shops.

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spendius wrote:

flushd-

One of the difficulties with philosophy is the shooting off in all directions.

You make a very interesting comment about German space age movies.That they scare you.But then you shift to red light districts etc.

Let's stay with the first thing.We can come back to the others later.

Can you explain why German porn scares you?

i can explain why german porn scares me i think. i believe the germans are more technical people so when they do something emotional like porn it comes off as too aggresive, stoic, and wrong for seomthign as beautiful as sex. their verbally intelligent counterparts in sweeden are like the opposite. german wasn't known as barbarian for no reason. even their language sounded like bar-bar - hence the name barbarian. on the other hand swedes are very good at communication. and language.

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Whoa.

Let's get it very clear right off the bat: I know I was going off on a tangeant.
No philosophy here. Just a comment about how German porn has managed to scare the crap out of me.

Since y'all are interested, I'll tell you why. It isn't because they are Germans. It is because I have seen some very out-there stuff. As y'all probably know, they have a thriving sex-industry. A lot of porn comes out of Germany(as it does out of a lot of other countries). Also, you can walk down certain streets in Germany and buy yourself a prostitute for the night. They have a different view/laws concerning sex.

Some of it has scared me because I found it personally repulsive. American porn has repulsed me as well (not all of it, though a lot).

Next up!! Enough of me talking about my porn-viewing habits and likes
Smile

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BTW, I think I understand what Gia was saying "I take issue with the scripted word coming (no pun intended by her I'm sure) between action shots".

I personally take issue with violence coming between actions shots. Americans are notorious for mixing violence and sex. I saw an issue of Maxim magasine (not a porn mag, but a 'men's mag') that made me want to puke. Otherwise, some of the writing in Maxim is quite clever and entertaining.

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That's a neat evasion.It scares you because it's scary is what it adds up to.

It is only on a screen after all.Why does it scare you is the question and why does it not scare others?

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spendius wrote:

That's a neat evasion.It scares you because it's scary is what it adds up to.

It is only on a screen after all.Why does it scare you is the question and why does it not scare others?

who said it just scares her? you aren't the pollster. it scares me too a little. more so than other porn. i agree that it is the most scary pron.

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Ok, so who watches porn for the emotion?

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Bella Dea wrote:

Ok, so who watches porn for the emotion?

you could switch non emotional with "tasteless" i guess

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Yes.That's been clear for a while.

I know I'm not a pollster.I'm a philosophy threader at the moment.If we were in a Cambridge philosophy discussion you wouldn't be expected to repeat that German porn scares you because it's scary.What you see is merely an electronic image.That can't scare.What the image depicts people doing must scare you.Why?Is it too much of a challenge?That people are doing things you daren't do or can't do.That it forces you to recognise something about yourself which you find hard to accept.

In Cambridge you would be expected to answer or leave the room.Philosophy is not for the faint of heart.To maintain otherwise is an attempt to milk kudos out of being associated with philosophy without actually being associated with it and to manage that you have to have an audience you can bamboozle.Which is underestimating people.

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iknow wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:
Ok, so who watches porn for the emotion?

you could switch non emotional with "tasteless" i guess

What?

Porn is NOT meant to be emotional. At least not traditional porn here in the US. Female geared porn (more romantic, emotional stuff before the banging) is making it's way in but not nearly to the degree that traditional porn has. You are telling me men want to deal with emotional crap even during masturbation? I doubt it.

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spendius wrote:

Yes.That's been clear for a while.

I know I'm not a pollster.I'm a philosophy threader at the moment.If we were in a Cambridge philosophy discussion you wouldn't be expected to repeat that German porn scares you because it's scary.What you see is merely an electronic image.That can't scare.What the image depicts people doing must scare you.Why?Is it too much of a challenge?That people are doing things you daren't do or can't do.That it forces you to recognise something about yourself which you find hard to accept.

In Cambridge you would be expected to answer or leave the room.Philosophy is not for the faint of heart.To maintain otherwise is an attempt to milk kudos out of being associated with philosophy without actually being associated with it and to manage that you have to have an audience you can bamboozle.Which is underestimating people.

you're alright in my view on that except for the find hard to accept. in such a case i could accept it easily. it can still be scary. accepting something and finding it repulsive are two different things.

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Bella Dea wrote:

iknow wrote:
Bella Dea wrote:
Ok, so who watches porn for the emotion?

you could switch non emotional with "tasteless" i guess

What?

Porn is NOT meant to be emotional. At least not traditional porn here in the US. Female geared porn (more romantic, emotional stuff before the banging) is making it's way in but not nearly to the degree that traditional porn has. You are telling me men want to deal with emotional crap even during masturbation? I doubt it.

sickening things can be emotional too. in a disgusting emotional way. the porn here is hard and non emotional. being sick and sadistic isn't being less emotional, its being more.

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You expect way too much, Spendius. The inferential evidence is strong that "iknow" is adolescent or even pre-adolescent. He disappears from the computer at about what is normally the dinner hour in the U.S., and often does not reappear until the next day. One suspects that Mommy has told him to come eat his dinner and stop wasting his time on the computer.

I don't believe "iknow" has ever had much exposure to pornography, if any at all. I don't believe "iknow" has the experience of European pornography necessary to make a comparison to pornography as it is produced in the United States. As i mentioned much earlier in this thread, i strongly suspect that "iknows" purpose is to seek titilation through the participation of the adult women in this thread.

In short, Spendius, due to the blindness imposed on us by the venue, you're tilting at windmills. The member calling himself "iknow" can't distinguish between science and philosophy, has no basis upon which to carry on such a discussion with you, and very likely has little or no first-hand experience of filmed pornography.

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Setanta wrote:

You expect way too much, Spendius. The inferential evidence is strong that "iknow" is adolescent or even pre-adolescent. He disappears from the computer at about what is normally the dinner hour in the U.S., and often does not reappear until the next day. One suspects that Mommy has told him to come eat his dinner and stop wasting his time on the computer.

how is this post contributing to the thread?

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I would say that "repulsive" is a pejorative term which includes a degree of non-acceptance.When one is repulsed one draws back and drawing back is non-acceptance in action.

I think your answer was a little quick as if my post was only worthy of slight consideration.That suggests underestimation again.Are you sure you are not seeking an audience of lesser mortals?

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spendius wrote:

I would say that "repulsive" is a pejorative term which includes a degree of non-acceptance.When one is repulsed one draws back and drawing back is non-acceptance in action.

I think your answer was a little quick as if my post was only worthy of slight consideration.That suggests underestimation again.Are you sure you are not seeking an audience of lesser mortals?

you being a little arrogant with that last statement? you'd need to provide support. i can NOT LIKE something, and accept it. repulsion is just more extreme than not liking. you're putting words in my mouth. i don't like it. its just bad. i'm not repulsed by it. the feeling isn't that strongly negative. you're right about your definitino of repulsion though, if i disliked it more, i would want to back from it.

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Setanta-

Maybe you are right but does it not behove us more experienced men and women to try to explain a few things for him which his teachers seem to have failed to do.

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spendius wrote:

Setanta-

Maybe you are right but does it not behove us more experienced men and women to try to explain a few things for him which his teachers seem to have failed to do.

what am i missing? what is the point in you pointing that out? are you advancing anything?

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I've seen his "contributions" in many threads now, Spendius. His constant questioning has the quality of the toddler who just repeatedly asks why. In this thread, things have been explained to him, and the faults of his exposition pointed out to him, and he persists in willfully misunderstanding what is said to him. I agree that there is value in supplying the lacunae of his education, but there are limits to the utility in that. While this has been going on, i've seen him engaged in just such a pointless exercise in another thread, quite an enjoyable thread, in which he has now wasted page after page with a childish refrain of why.

If you wish to continue to engage what passes for intellect on his part, you'll have my admiration for your perspicacity, but not my companionship.

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