Twitter labels NPR as "State-Affiliated Media"

@Lash,

If you believe that NPR is state affiliated media, then you must also believe that during the Trump administration, NPR was pushing the Trump narrative. Do you believe that?

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Like that will ever happen!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone knows that listening to and/or reading NPR articles turns the reader/listener to Gay/Trans/Jewish/Minority loving/White Race betraying/etc.... It's ALL A CONSPIRACY I'S TELLS YA! Drunk

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@tsarstepan,

She listened once and she got a brain burn. A small one, coincidentally enough. Small net: small catch.

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@engineer,

It only follows Democrat talking points. I posted here two decades ago that I noticed an agenda, but now it’s bonkers.

RussiaGate was a fabrication. Covid was leaked from a US funded bio lab in Wuhan and you couldn’t even say that for a year. The CIA & FBI with help from Democrats pressured social media CEOs to censor stories and people.

These are facts people here refuse to acknowledge—and the media ignores because they’re told to.

I can’t make anyone believe it, but I will occasionally remind you guys who think if you squeeze your eyes closed, it’ll go away.

It’s not going away.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

It only follows Democrat talking points.

Then you believe it is partisan, not state affiliated

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@engineer,

That would be a slam dunk argument—if this weird consortium of spook agencies and one political party didn’t control social media and news media.

Fox News is the outlier and you see how they’ve been completely marginalized by the ‘state’.

I’m not going to try to convince you—just forwarding my strongly held opinion. I suspected this to be true before it was confirmed by emails via Twitter.

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@Lash,

And I'll not try to convince you otherwise.

Lash wrote:

Fox News is the outlier and you see how they’ve been completely marginalized by the ‘state’.

Given that Fox News is the long standing number one cable news show and mints money, I'm not sure how Fox has been marginalized.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

And I'll not try to convince you otherwise.

Lash wrote:

Fox News is the outlier and you see how they’ve been completely marginalized by the ‘state’.

Given that Fox News is the long standing number one cable news show and mints money, I'm not sure how Fox has been marginalized.

When Bernie ran for president, he appeared on Fox to try to inform Fox viewers who may be operating on less than complete information about a Sanders presidency (they seemed to think Bern was a Communist), and people called for Bernie’s cancellation.

Democrats and their media try to get people cancelled for appearing on Fox.

https://rollcall.com/2019/05/14/sen-elizabeth-warren-fox-news-is-a-hate-for-profit-racket/
Attacks by Warren.

I think this cancel culture keeping people from talking and listening—even debating or arguing—keeps us in angry little bubbles for the purpose of distracting us from our common interests—and joining together to hold our government responsible for their corrupt warmongering.

So it’s a big deal to me.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

I think this cancel culture keeping people from talking and listening—even debating or arguing—keeps us in angry little bubbles for the purpose of distracting us from our common interests—and joining together to hold our government responsible for their corrupt warmongering.

So it’s a big deal to me.

"Cancel Culture" is the term powerful people use to denigrate everyday people who criticize them. If someone in power says something that people don't like and those insignificant, everyday people get on social media and criticize them, they start whining about how people are trying to "cancel" them, usually using the same mass media access that their power affords them. I sincerely doubt that Sanders has ever said he was being cancelled because Sanders actually understands what free speech is.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

Lash wrote:

I think this cancel culture keeping people from talking and listening—even debating or arguing—keeps us in angry little bubbles for the purpose of distracting us from our common interests—and joining together to hold our government responsible for their corrupt warmongering.

So it’s a big deal to me.

"Cancel Culture" is the term powerful people use to denigrate everyday people who criticize them. If someone in power says something that people don't like and those insignificant, everyday people get on social media and criticize them, they start whining about how people are trying to "cancel" them, usually using the same mass media access that their power affords them. I sincerely doubt that Sanders has ever said he was being cancelled because Sanders actually understands what free speech is.

Doctors, nurses, scientists, and regular people were banned—cancelled—from social media for questioning Covid origin, the slapped-together vaccine, lockdowns, firings for refusing vaccines, the Hunter Biden laptop story and anything else that called into question the narrative pushed on the public.

Not powerful people.

The canceling was DONE BY the powerful people.

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@Lash,

And you know about all these people because they weren't actually "cancelled", they had plenty of platforms to spread their beliefs. They were just upset that people called them on it. If those people were really cancelled, you'd never know about them.

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@engineer,

Engineer, I feel like you’re speaking in good faith.

I did know those people. We had associations and some, friendships, on Twitter and I watched them get banned one by one. It happened to me too for criticizing popular public personas who fronted to prevailing narrative.

When Musk bought Twitter, we were allowed back and told the reasons we were banned/canceled listed on old Twitter files—when the FBI had an office at Twitter HQ.

I’m speaking from personal knowledge and personal experience.

Many of the scientists and medical professionals were banned for saying things that have turned out to be accurate.

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Many of the scientists and medical professionals were banned for saying things that have turned out to be accurate.

For instance?

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@hightor,

I'd like her to define "banned".

Like you said, "Cancelling" is a powerful term. And I'll add - cancelling means less than squat. The RW runs around screaming it because it sounds reasonable compared to most of their political babble equivalent of 'flat earth' Q-anon bullshit.

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@bobsal u1553115,

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I'd like her to define "banned".

Yeah. I also suspect that some of these "medical professionals" were posers, or people like Dr. John Campbell, or other people who may have had some experience in medicine but were not virologists or epidemiologists but wanted sound authoritative. And people can get thrown off social media for all sorts of violations – making threats, for instance, or continually breaking rules of decorum.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

Engineer, I feel like you’re speaking in good faith.

Thank you. I recognize your commitment to your position as well.

Lash wrote:

I did know those people. We had associations and some, friendships, on Twitter and I watched them get banned one by one. It happened to me too for criticizing popular public personas who fronted to prevailing narrative.

In my opinion, getting banned from Twitter or Reddit or A2k has nothing to do with free speech. These are private entities trying to make a profit. Imagine of someone were to stand up in the middle of a Cracker Barrel dining room and started talking to the other guests about Covid vaccines (or anything else for that matter). You could imagine that after some confusion, the management would escort them out. It doesn't matter so much what is said as it disturbs the experience that Cracker Barrel desires for their customers. Likewise Twitter can boot anyone they want for any reason they want. Musk has proven this many times over, he just boots for more capricious reasons.

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When Musk bought Twitter, we were allowed back and told the reasons we were banned/canceled listed on old Twitter files—when the FBI had an office at Twitter HQ.

This has been a right wing talking point for a while, but the reporter who Musk released the files to, Matt Taibbi did not find anything to support that claim.

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Musk tweeted that Twitter had acted "under orders from the government", though Taibbi reported that he found no evidence of government involvement in the laptop story, tweeting, "Although several sources recalled hearing about a 'general' warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence—that I've seen—of any government involvement in the laptop story."[22][27] His reporting seemed to undermine a key narrative promoted by Musk and Republicans that the FBI pressured social media companies to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop stories.[22][36]

While Wikipedia is aggregating information here, you can find all the links to the original stories. (Note, if you think Matt Taibbi has a liberal bias, he just left Twitter in a spat with Musk to go to Trump's Truth Social because Musk suppressed links to Substack.)

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@engineer,

1. She doesn't have a clue of what free speech is, all it is is a guarantee that one's speech will have no prior restraint. That the government can't stop one from speaking, that one can speak treason (for example) without restraint but with NO guarantee that one will not be prosecuted for that treason.

2. She ignores the fact that NO forum guarantees any sort of free speech, and that one signs on to a ToS that explicitly says this and lists a series of rules of what will be allowed and what will not be.

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@engineer,

Engineer, I didn’t mention ‘free speech,’ I mentioned the FBI having an office and a position of power at a massive social media company—who had support from a large FBI office in SF who directed censorship.

Working today, but I’ll be back with more details.

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@Lash,

Knitting socks, I see. Speaking of ToS, you might want to read it again or in your case, for the first time.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

And people can get thrown off social media for all sorts of violations – making threats, for instance, or continually breaking rules of decorum.

Not in this case—they were banned for the reason I said. The definition of banned is universal.

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