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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 09:13 am
A supportable budget deficit - which is what the Republican position advocates and is implementing - is a vital component of a stable, robust economy. The "Clinton Surplus" was illusory, an artifact of defense budget adjustments attributable to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.

While I don't " ... take the position that Democrats can't do anything right", I don't see a lot they've gotten right. And yes, I do " ... blame the Clinton administration's economic policies for the actions of corrupt private companies." Think Mark Rich as but one example.

You wrote:
...and you show me how Bush's policy appears to be working. That's not really the point ...

No, that precisely is the point ... and that those of your political bent miss it is illustrative of the reason The Opposition finds itself stymied at every turn.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 09:16 am
timberlandko wrote:
A supportable budget deficit - which is what the Republican position advocates and is implementing...

Bwahahahahaha! Ah, timber, sometimes you crack me up!




Oh, wait, were you serious?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 09:37 am
FreeDuck wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
Bush proposed to halve the budget deficit by 2008, and is ahead of schedule in the endeavor.

The data you provide doesn't appear to support this contention.


Nonsense.
Quote:
U.S. '05 Deficit Estimate Reduced to About $330 Bln, Aide Says[/i][/u]

July 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration is cutting its estimate of this year's U.S. budget deficit to about $330 billion, a Senate Republican aide said, as the growth in jobs and income boosts tax payments.

The shortfall, still the third largest in history, would be down about 23 percent from the $427 billion that the government forecast five months ago. The fiscal year 2004 deficit was a record $412 billion, or 3.5 percent of U.S. gross domestic product, according to the Congressional Budget Office ...

... The growing economy and increased tax collections also will help President George W. Bush with his 2004 pledge to cut the deficit by half by 2009 to about 2.25 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product. ``It's pretty clear now the path we are on will take us below the president's initial target,'' Treasury Secretary John Snow said July 8.

The reduction from $521 billion first estimated in 2004 may be reached three years early ...
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 09:43 am
joefromchicago wrote:
timberlandko wrote:
A supportable budget deficit - which is what the Republican position advocates and is implementing...

Bwahahahahaha! Ah, timber, sometimes you crack me up!




Oh, wait, were you serious?

The joke is that what The Opposition disparages and dismissively makes jokes about is in fact working - unlike anything The Opposition proposes.

Oh, BTW - great avatar -

http://www.able2know.com/forums/images/avatars/12209358554301f039e30eb.jpg

- I really miss Harry - a real icon.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 09:43 am
timberlandko wrote:

No, that precisely is the point ... and that those of your political bent miss it is illustrative of the reason The Opposition finds itself stymied at every turn.


Put your pom-poms down. Balanced budget, bad idea? I know the Republicans have their own idea of what economic policy should be, again, that's not what I was addressing.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 10:01 am
FreeDuck wrote:
timberlandko wrote:

No, that precisely is the point ... and that those of your political bent miss it is illustrative of the reason The Opposition finds itself stymied at every turn.


Put your pom-poms down. Balanced budget, bad idea? I know the Republicans have their own idea of what economic policy should be, again, that's not what I was addressing.


Straw man, FD - I never said any such thing. I said a supportable budget deficit is a vital part of a robust economy. That is what Republican economic policy is addressing, and acheiving.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 10:03 am
timberlandko wrote:
Bush proposed to halve the budget deficit by 2008, and is ahead of schedule in the endeavor.


FreeDuck wrote:

The data you provide doesn't appear to support this contention.


And indeed it doesn't.

According to the CBO, the deficit as percentage of GDP in 2004 was 3.6. Half of that would be 1.8. The projected deficit for 2008 is 2.3.

Now I realize that you misrepresented his promise which was to get it down to 2.5 percent of GDP by 2009 (not 2008). That is a different contention and that your data does support.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 10:09 am
timberlandko wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
timberlandko wrote:

No, that precisely is the point ... and that those of your political bent miss it is illustrative of the reason The Opposition finds itself stymied at every turn.


Put your pom-poms down. Balanced budget, bad idea? I know the Republicans have their own idea of what economic policy should be, again, that's not what I was addressing.


Straw man, FD - I never said any such thing. I said a supportable budget deficit is a vital part of a robust economy. That is what Republican economic policy is addressing, and acheiving.


It's no strawman, it's the original question I asked you about 10 posts back. Here's a refresher.

timber wrote:
I do indeed think the economic policy approach of the Democratic Party is, and for generations has been, wrong-headed, counter-productive, counter-intuitive, and in short dangerous to the point of disaster.


FreeDuck wrote:
So that whole balanced-budget thing, not a good idea?


It's a valid question.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 02:20 pm
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
so is this.



http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2003/10/29/image580655x.jpg

so what's your point ?
You deserve an award 'Don't tread'.I have'nt seen sombody get blown away that bad for a long time. Man, youre quick. Thats a great photo. A testement to Bushs failure.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 02:37 pm
I don't know what motivates these people. But whatever it is it's not constructive. Only one thing is for sure. They'll always have something stupid to say.Maybe this is an outlet for there quilt, denial and failure.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 02:51 pm
Amigo wrote:
I don't know what motivates these people. But whatever it is it's not constructive. Only one thing is for sure. They'll always have something stupid to say.Maybe this is an outlet for there quilt, denial and failure.


I'm glad you're around, Amigo. Although many of us are still waiting for you to let loose with both barrels, until you do, you manage to lift the spirits of both conservative and liberal posters alike. The liberals appreciate your cheerleading efforts, and the conservatives enjoy your typos, unique uses of apostrophes (or lack thereof), and innovative spelling. Cheers.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 02:57 pm
I know I need an outlet for my quilt. It just keeps growing and growing.

Sorry, Amigo, I couldn't resist.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 03:01 pm
Thanks, FD. Now I need a new monitor.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 03:02 pm
Anytime, Tico.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 03:30 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Amigo wrote:
I don't know what motivates these people. But whatever it is it's not constructive. Only one thing is for sure. They'll always have something stupid to say.Maybe this is an outlet for there quilt, denial and failure.


I'm glad you're around, Amigo. Although many of us are still waiting for you to let loose with both barrels, until you do, you manage to lift the spirits of both conservative and liberal posters alike. The liberals appreciate your cheerleading efforts, and the conservatives enjoy your typos, unique uses of apostrophes (or lack thereof), and innovative spelling. Cheers.
Tikimayo, you are entertainment.What makes you think I would waste perfectly good shotgun shells on such small game. Laughing. My direct involvement in resisting Bush and the war is and continues to have a direct effect.Look around you. What the right dismissed they are now being confronted by on all sides And here you are concerned with my spelling. Laughing
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:47 pm
Amigo wrote:
Tikimayo, you are entertainment.What makes you think I would waste perfectly good shotgun shells on such small game. Laughing.


Because you, according to you, have been an activist for 17 years, and cannot resist the urge to give me full bore. Come one, I know you made a sorta half-effort before, but I didn't realize you were being serious. Just want you to know we're anxious for a real pro like you to get in the game.

Quote:
My direct involvement in resisting Bush and the war is and continues to have a direct effect.Look around you. What the right dismissed they are now being confronted by on all sides And here you are concerned with my spelling. Laughing


I think you misunderstood. I think your posts -- even though I realize you are restraining yourself for the moment ... picking your spot ... biding your time .. waiting for the right moment to strike with your awesome ability -- are entertaining. I don't want you to stop in the least, and I am not concerned with and certainly don't want you to to do a thing with your spelling.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 06:01 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Amigo wrote:
Tikimayo, you are entertainment.What makes you think I would waste perfectly good shotgun shells on such small game. Laughing.


Because you, according to you, have been an activist for 17 years, and cannot resist the urge to give me full bore. Come one, I know you made a sorta half-effort before, but I didn't realize you were being serious. Just want you to know we're anxious for a real pro like you to get in the game.

Quote:
My direct involvement in resisting Bush and the war is and continues to have a direct effect.Look around you. What the right dismissed they are now being confronted by on all sides And here you are concerned with my spelling. Laughing


I think you misunderstood. I think your posts -- even though I realize you are restraining yourself for the moment ... picking your spot ... biding your time .. waiting for the right moment to strike with your awesome ability -- are entertaining. I don't want you to stop in the least, and I am not concerned with and certainly don't want you to to do a thing with your spelling.
Tikimayo, you are giving me far more thought then I am giving you.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 06:11 pm
He's very thoughtful. That's just the way he is.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2005 08:31 pm
Yeah, thoughtful...That tikoyama is chock full of... thought.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2005 07:40 am
snood...just a little wave here...it's a pleasure to have you around again.
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