Lash wrote:DontTreadOnMe wrote:Lash wrote:I don't think Sharon intends an exodus into the Mediterranean, as Sheehan implicitly advocates.
naw, i don't think he does, and don't think he should. honestly i don't get why he chose gaz. it would make more sense to ceade a portion of the left bank, and some sort of compromise regarding jerusalem. not that i think the palestinians have figured out the concept of compromise yet.
interesting to me, is that from what i've read, not one single arabic country has even entertained the idea of donating a measly acre to the establishment of a palestinian state. in fact, i believe the idea was turned down cold.
How does that Jews being quite influential regarding the war in Iraq go...? How'd they do that?
okay, don't freak out, i'm pretty staunchly pro-israel.
the jewish, or more accurately israeli, influence shows up in the connection between people like wolfowitz and their association with groups like pnac, which has a relationship with a similar group in israel called jinsa. it's a pretty convoluted landscape researching the connections. but, fascinating and worth the research to see what's going on. and, importantly, the majority of players maintain their own websites, so it's not like you only get liberal commentary and such. if you have any interest in pursuing it, i'll try to point you in the right direction.
DTOM--
(Hi, btw.)
The question I'm interested in is this-- Do you really think some shadowy Jewish org is unduly influencing US Presidential administrations? I know countries have lobbyests, and Israel is no different--but the way this is whispered and now said in the light of day by people who should know better represents to me a fresh and more sinister brand of anti-Jewish racism. The old brand was bad enough. Is there anything under the sun that these hateful people haven't blamed on the Jews? Since the beginning of time. I can't believe it's still going on.
Wolfowitz, Perle, PNAC, ...there are plenty of like-minded groups, people, affiliations... why is the one with Jews and Israel suddenly so suspect?
I swear, I could cry.
it's not that the groups are "shadowy jewish orgs". it's a coalition of like minded conservative, mostly neo-conservative groups, think tanks and lobbies who have some members that happen to be jewish. conversely, jinsa has members of the advisory board that are american and gentile, such as james woolsey.
that said, i have seen a few web sites that list when you google pnac that are decidedly anti-semetic.
those guys would be anti-semetic even if pnac and jinsa never existed.
in other words, it's not being jewish that bothers me at all, it's the tenets of the neo-conservative world view that bug.
we cool ?