Cindy Sheehan's Victory

Har! Democratic underground... imagine that.

How come none of you have flown down to support Sheehan and the political lampooning of her son's death she is presiding over?

How come none of you have flown down to support Sheehan and the political lampooning of her son's death she is presiding over?

I didn't get to talk to Cindy Sheenan but I did talk to a whole bunch of Iraq War veterans, and let me tell ya, the things they had to say were simply incredible.

Cycloptichorn

Well, these gentlemen, as you say, were obviously not there to talk good about the war.

The two things that were mentioned to me by pretty much every soldier I talked to were:

1. Sand

2. Nightmares.

Apparently we have no clue what a 'sand storm' really means. Some of the guys said they are phobic about even being a little sandy these days and most of them said that they'll never take a shower for granted again.

I spent about half an hour (and half a case of PBR) with two snipers who had done time in Iraq. They were strange guys; intense, quiet. They weren't there to criticize Bush, really (like many of the soldiers I met) they had the most derision for Rumsfeld and the senior leaders of the Armed forces, who they feel should have known better than to let the politicos get the soldiers into such a mess.

There was a lot of talk about cleaning out a city or area of insurgents and having them move right back in once the troops left. One of the snipers said he actually shot the same guy twice, on two different days; the first time he twitched and hit the guy in the arm, the second time (three weeks later) he got him. I asked how he could be sure it was the same guy and he laughed a little and told me 'you can't mistake a mustache like this guy had, no way.'

Both of the snipers were headed back. Both of them were pretty upset about it though they didn't show it too much; just a quiet resignation. They wondered whether we would go to war with Iran, they said there's a lot of talk about it in the 'theater' by which I guess they meant Iraq.

I'll post more later

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I didn't get to talk to Cindy Sheenan but I did talk to a whole bunch of Iraq War veterans, and let me tell ya, the things they had to say were simply incredible.

Cycloptichorn

Oh do get over yourself. If you really did go, then give us some real details or photos of your alleged visit. Personally I don't believe 9 out of 10 things said by people claiming to have gone somewhere. I could just as easily say 'late last night I turned to my Jerry Falwell poster and asked him the meaning of life and he told me everything just before we blasted off on a rocketship to the planet Sdrompula in a matter of seconds and we picnicked there until dawn' Yup, that sounds as plausible to me as your tale.

Further more it is a military action and nobody said it was going to be a great and fun old time. They enlisted, they damm well ought to keep their yaps shut since this is the same sort of thing which ended up killing thousands of young men in the VietNam war. All the negativity from home gets heaped upon the people who want to stand up for their country and they are continually berated for having patriotism.

Or, more to the point,do you really have a Falwell pin-up at home?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I didn't get to talk to Cindy Sheenan but I did talk to a whole bunch of Iraq War veterans, and let me tell ya, the things they had to say were simply incredible.

Cycloptichorn

Oh do get over yourself. If you really did go, then give us some real details or photos of your alleged visit. Personally I don't believe 9 out of 10 things said by people claiming to have gone somewhere. I could just as easily say 'late last night I turned to my Jerry Falwell poster and asked him the meaning of life and he told me everything just before we blasted off on a rocketship to the planet Sdrompula in a matter of seconds and we picnicked there until dawn' Yup, that sounds as plausible to me as your tale.

Further more it is a military action and nobody said it was going to be a great and fun old time. They enlisted, they damm well ought to keep their yaps shut since this is the same sort of thing which ended up killing thousands of young men in the VietNam war. All the negativity from home gets heaped upon the people who want to stand up for their country and they are continually berated for having patriotism.