Momma Angel wrote:Phoenix Wrote:
Quote:I would certainly appreciate slkshock7's opinion on the matter. But my first, (and continuing) request is for your explanation. It seems to me that when one has a belief that is so strong, and when apparently there are major contradictions in the belief, the person ought to have thought them through, and be able to verbalize how he came to his conclusions.
Phoenix, I understand what you are saying here. However, I feel that I have answered your question more than once. To you, there is a contradiction, and yes, I even understand how you may feel that way. But, if one does not have the same "belief", "faith", etc., it sometimes cannot be explained to another person's understanding or even satisfaction.
Well...that may be true, MA...but it is also possible that the contradictions remain and that the explanation really doesn't make sense, because the "explanation" is not really and explanation, but rather an attempt to make the unexplainable seem like it has been explained.
I think both Phoenix and I are trying to get past the fact that you often attempt to make it our "fault" (for want of a better word)...when you, or some other religious person, gets caught up in obvious contradictions...by saying "well, you just don't have faith, therefor you don't get it."
I suspect, she, like I....think you very often are the one "not getting it"....and I suspect she, like I, think it is because you have this "faith"...which really is little more than an insistence that you are correct despite the fact that you don't truly know that you are.
Faith...or lack of it...may indeed be the key ingredient. But you just have to understand that you...and your possession of it....may be the problem. Not "the lack of it"...or those of us who do not have it.
