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Churches have been LYING about Christ for 2K years!

 
 
kjw47
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2022 10:43 am
@The Anointed,
Stop twisting what i say, i said what you said was truth, was Catholicism nonsense, Trinity bibles are filled with errors to mislead to fit false council teachings such as God being a trinity.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2022 11:43 am
@kjw47,
kjw47 wrote:

Stop twisting what i say,


Like he did last Summer.
The Anointed
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2022 07:02 pm
@kjw47,
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Stop twisting what i say, i said what you said was truth, was Catholicism nonsense, Trinity bibles are filled with errors to mislead to fit false council teachings such as God being a trinity .

Everything you say is the twisted teachings of your false spiritual guides, no one has to twist your already twisted and distorted beliefs.

Do you still believe that Michael the chief angel of the Israelites, came as the man Jesus?
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The Anointed
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2022 09:10 pm
@kjw47,
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Archangel means chief of the angels. Only Michael has that title.

Daniel 10: 21-22; He said, “Do you know why I came to you? It is to reveal to you what is written in the Book of Truth. Now I have to go back and fight the 'GUARDIAN ANGEL OF PERSIA'. After that, the 'GUARDIAN ANGEL OF GREECE' will appear. There is no one to help me except 'MICHAEL, ISRAEL'S GUARDIAN ANGEL .

Daniel 10: 13; The angel prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me for 21 days. Then 'MICHAEL, ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS ,' came to help me, because I had been left there alone in Persia.

Why do you continue to twist and distort the scriptures, nowhere is it said in your 66 books that Michael is the chief of the angels. Michael ONE of the chief angels is the guardian angel of the Israelites.

Peter speaks of the ignorant and mentally unstable people who explain falsely, passages of the scriptures. So they bring on their own destruction.

kjw47
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:05 pm
@The Anointed,
It is you twisting them. Show us all where another gets the title archangel in the 66 books.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:44 pm
@kjw47,
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Show us all where another gets the title archangel in the 66 books.

I have already shown all of you, that in your 66 books, Michael is said to be the guardian angel of the Israelites and "ONE" of the chief angels.

Now, it's up to you to reveal where in your 66 books it is said that "MICHAEL IS THE CHIEF OF THE ANGELS," if not, you will reveal yourself to be a scripture twister.

Of course, you can do the right thing by your god and admit to all, that nowhere in your 66 books is it said that Michael is the chief of the angels,
kjw47
 
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Sun 4 Dec, 2022 08:08 pm
@The Anointed,
Archangel translates chief of the angels.
The Anointed
 
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Mon 5 Dec, 2022 01:39 am
@kjw47,
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Archangel translates chief of the angels.

Wrong again sunshine.

Archangel (Singular) translates 'Chief Angel: Archangels (Plural) translates 'Chief Angels,' Archangel does not translate; "CHIEF OF ALL ANGELS"

Metatron, is the greatest of angels in Jewish myths and legends. Although Metatron is not a figure of the Hebrew Bible, his name does appear briefly in several passages of the Talmud. His legends are predominantly found in mystical Kabbalistic texts. He is variously identified as the Prince (or Angel) of the Presence, as Enoch after his bodily ascent into heaven. He is commonly described as a celestial scribe recording the sins and merits of men, as a guardian of heavenly secrets, as God’s mediator with men, as the “lesser Yahweh,” as the prototype, and as one “whose name is like that of his master.” (Yahweh)

Enoch is the anointed successor to the throne of “THE MOST HIGH’ in the creation: Enoch is the CHRIST who stands, clothed and girded in fire, where he serves God before the body of Adam [Mankind] into all eternity.

And the Lord summoned one of his arch-angels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other arch-angels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: ‘Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of thy hand.

The Lord then commanded Enoch to write down the names of every man [Male man and female man] who would ever live and the position for each soul into all eternity, for all souls are prepared to eternity. The soul, which is the divine animating principle that pervades the entire universal body cannot be destroyed, but the rejected spirits/minds that are imprinted onto the universal soul can be divided from the eternal soul.

Enoch/the Archangel Metatron, who spoke to us through the prophet Jesus, is the author of "THE BOOK OF LIFE".

The first death is when the physical womb (Your Body) in which YOU" the Spirit=mind is developing is returned to the universal elements from which it was formed, the Second death, is when the mind, is divided from the eternal God given soul.

Revelation 21: 5-8; He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

6 He (The one who reclaimed his throne from Jesus; see 1 Corinthians 15; 25-26) said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
kjw47
 
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Mon 5 Dec, 2022 08:02 pm
@The Anointed,
Chief angel, chief of the angels--no difference.
1Thess 4:16--Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel--No mortal on earth can prove its not his voice but all other evidence proves it is.
Like Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in these last days. The time of distress= the great tribulation. verse 2 is about the resurrection. verse4 clearly shows its about the time of the end.

Other proof Rev 6-Ride of the white horse= the war in heaven, Michael is listed as doing battle with satan and his angels in that war--But Rev6:1-he receives his crown--Only Jesus gets the crown proving he is Michael. Then Jesus shown on the white horse Rev 19:11-- its the same ride it begins at Rev 6 and does not end until-1Cor 15:24-28-After rev 20 is complete
The Anointed
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 12:10 am
@kjw47,
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Chief angel, chief of the angels--no difference.

Heaps of difference youngen, not that anyone whose brain has been so twisted with erroneous information could understand.

Daniel 10: 13; The angel prince of the kingdom of Persia opposed me for 21 days. Then 'MICHAEL, ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS, ' came to help me, because I had been left there alone in Persia.

GNB: Daniel 10: 21-22; He said, “Do you know why I came to you? It is to reveal to you what is written in the Book of Truth. Now I have to go back and fight the 'GUARDIAN ANGEL OF PERSIA'. After that, the 'GUARDIAN ANGEL OF GREECE' will appear. There is no one to help me except 'MICHAEL, ISRAEL'S GUARDIAN ANGEL.

If Michael, who is recorded in your 66 sacred books as being the Chief Angel of Israel, is but only “ONE” of the ‘CHIEF ANGELS’ how many ‘CHIEF ANGELS’ do you suppose there are?
The Anointed
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 01:20 am
@The Anointed,
Continued from previous post
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1Thess 4:16--Jesus comes with the voice of the archangel.

The archangel Metatron, who, before his translation from a physical being to a spiritual being, was the Man Enoch who was bodily carried up to God at the age of 365, which is the number of days in a calendar year, the age of the Pascal Lamb who takes on the sins of the world, The one year old unblemished Lamb of God.

Enoch, from the pre-flood age of man, is the only man recorded in your sacred 66 books who was carried up to heaven bodily and translated in order that he should never experience death and is the heavenly Father of all the descendants of the eight souls that are said in your 66 books, to have survived the flood.

The word “CHRIST” means “The Anointed One.” Enoch was the one anointed by the Most-High in the creation, ‘The Lord of Creatures,’ as his Heir and successor, (The Son of Man) who is Lord of spirits.

Christ is the English term for the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one" It is a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), usually transliterated into English as Messiah or Mashiach. The Hebrew word translated "anointed" is the verb form of the noun "Messiah."

"The Book of the Secrets of Enoch" 22: 8; "And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: "Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity."

And the archistratiege Michael lifted me up, and led me before the Lord’s face.

And the Most-High said to the glorious creatures that surrounded him, tempting them: "Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity," and the glorious creatures bowed down to the Lord, and said: "Let Enoch go [Or be released] according to Thy word."

And the Lord said to Michael: "Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory."

And Michael did thus as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s rays, and I looked at myself, and was like one of his glorious ones.

To translate something is to change it from one form to another. Hebrews 11: 5; “By faith Enoch was translated so that he should not experience death, and he was not found because God had translated him.”

The author of the New Testament Hebrews 11: 5; could not have known that Enoch was carried to the throne of the ‘MOST HIGH’ in the creation and translated so that he should not experience death; and he was not found, because God had Translated him, unless he had read from, "The Book of the Secrets of Enoch," which books were cherished by the early Christians, right up until the fourth century, when under the ban of such dogmatic authorities of the Roman church as Jerome, Hilary and Augustine they finally passed out of circulation and were thought lost for mellennia.

Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives are all direct genetic descendants of Enoch, (The Anointed one,) through his six sons, Methusulah, Rigam, Riman, Urchan, Cherminian, and Giadad.

Jubilees 4: 30; And he (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ’On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

After spending three days (Three thousand years) in the valley of man, which is the spiritual dimension that co-exists within our three-dimensional world (The kingdom of God is within you) he came to his own and his own received him not, but to as many as received him, (Who sat in the throne of the MOST-HIGH in the creation) to them gave he the power to become the Sons of God. The man Jesus was the first to become ‘A’ Son of God. Who was born a Son of God, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the spirit of God which descended upon him in the form of a dove on the day that he was baptised, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my Son, ‘THIS DAY, I have begotten thee,” or as said in Hebrews 5:5; You are my son, ‘TODAY’ I have become your Father.

kjw47
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 03:56 pm
@The Anointed,
Many have been anointed-the 144,000 are anointed-they are mortal to start with. All the kings in OT were anointed.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 06:21 pm
@kjw47,
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Like Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in these last days. The time of distress= the great tribulation.


This is the war to end all wars as foretold by the prophets, in which no flesh would survive if not for the intervention of the Lord and for the sake of his elect and chosen, he will intervene.

Isaiah 63: 1-6, "Who is this coming from the city of Bozrah in Edom? Who is this so splendidly dressed in red, marching along in power and strength?" It is the Lord, powerful to save, coming to announce his victory. "Why is his clothing so red, like that of a man who tramples grapes to make wine?" . . . . . The Lord answers, "I have trampled the nations like grapes and no one came to help me. I trampled them in my anger, and their blood has stained all my clothing. I DECIDED THAT THE TIME TO SAVE MY PEOPLE HAD COME; it was time to punish their enemies.

I was amazed when I looked and saw that there was no one to help me. But my anger made me strong, and I won the victory myself. In my anger I trampled whole nations and shattered them, I poured out their life’s blood on the earth."

See Zechariah 14: 1. The day when the LORD will sit in judgement is near. Then Jerusalem will be looted, and the loot will be divided up before your eyes. The LORD will bring all the nations together to make war on Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the people will go into exile, but the rest of them will not be taken away from the city.

The African tectonic plate in its northern migration, grinds against the Arabian plate in a line that runs up through the Red Sea and along the Jordon valley beneath the Mount of Olives.

Zechariah 14: 3-4; Then the Lord will go out and fight for his people as he has fought in times past. At that time, he will stand on the Mount of Olives, to the east of Jerusalem. Then the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west by a large valley. Half of the mountain (On the African plate) will move to the northwest, and half of it (On the Arabian plate) will move to the southeast.

Could the violent activity around the earth at this time, be the trigger that will cause the super volcano beneath Yellow stone to erupt, enveloping the planet in a cloud of debris? And that day shall be neither day nor night, but a perpetual twilight.

Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand- year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.

Zechariah 14: 13; Then the Lord will throw those nations that surround Jerusalem, into a state of total confusion, and the weapons of destruction with which they would destroy Israel, he will cause them to turn upon their own allies and they shall suffer a terrible disease, the soft tissue such as their eyes and tongues will melt in their sockets, and their radiated flesh, cooked to the bone, will slide from their bodies while still standing. Then all the surviving Nations will send their representatives each year to Jerusalem in the land of Israel, to worship and pay tribute to the Lord who will rule the whole world with justice for a thousand years, and woe betide those who refuse to do so.

One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.
kjw47
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 06:28 pm
@The Anointed,
Jerusalem is not of God anymore. Spiritual Israel just means Gods chosen are his now.
I dont know who teaches you that stuff, but it sure isnt Gods truth. You need to relook.
The Anointed
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 06:59 pm
@kjw47,
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Many have been anointed-the 144,000 are anointed-they are mortal to start with. All the kings in OT were anointed

To start with: Only one has been anointed as his Heir and successor by the Lord who sat upon the throne of the MOST-HIGH in the creation, and that one was Enoch, who is not resurrected because he never dies.

The Israelite Kings were anointed by the leading judge for the sole purpose of ruling their particular countries, and nowhere in your sacred 66 books is it said that the 144,000 chosen from 12 of the 13 tribes of Israel are anointed, that's just you mouthing off your erroneous rubbish again.
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The Anointed
 
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Tue 6 Dec, 2022 07:20 pm
@kjw47,
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Jerusalem is not of God anymore. Spiritual Israel just means Gods chosen are his now.

And how will the Nations surround your so-called spiritual Israelites, who are supposedly scattered throughout the nations of the world?

The Lord may have abandoned his chosen people the Israelites for a while, but he is calling them all back. But it is obvious that you have absolutely no understanding of the Holy Scriptures, only the distorted teachings of your blind spiritual guides.

Spiritual Jerusalem does not come down until after the Thousand years rule of Jesus has been completed, and all physical life forms remaining on this planet have been incinerated by the heavenly fire of God's wrath.

You need to look more carefully, child.
kjw47
 
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Thu 8 Dec, 2022 01:35 pm
@The Anointed,
Babylon the great will fall= worldwide false religions= 99% of them. Gods 1 true religion will stand and the world will not like it. Rev 16--With 3 inspired expressions from satans side( like 3 9/11,s hitting mortals in their hearts at once) EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) on earth will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king( who will come to protect Gods 1 religion when they rise against it). 99% on earth will fall.
The Anointed
 
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Thu 8 Dec, 2022 04:47 pm
@kjw47,
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Babylon the great will fall= worldwide false religions= 99% of them.

Revelation 18……
Come out of her my people do not share in her sins
You must not share her punishment, her judgement day has come
Her sins are piled to heaven and God recalls her evil ways
She says; “I am no widow” and I’ll never see the grave.
Because of that, in just one day disease will strike her down
Plagues and famine she’ll receive till finally she’ll be burned.
You must pay her back two-fold for all that she has done
Fill her cup as she filled yours, but make it twice as strong.
For all the glory she has claimed and all her luxury
Must be repaid this very day with pain and misery.

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Gods 1 true religion will stand and the world will not like it.


The Zohar is a foundational work in the literature of Jewish mystical thought known as Kabbalah. It is a group of books including commentary on the mystical aspects of the Torah (the five books of Moses) and scriptural interpretations as well as material on mysticism and the Zohar describes Metatron as the "KING OF THE ANGELS” This corresponds closely with Maimonides' description of the Talmudic "PRINCE OF THE WORLD", traditionally associated with Metatron, as the core "Active Intellect.

Gershom Scholem suggests that the name (The Lesser YHWH) was deliberately omitted from later copies of the Talmud. Although Extra-talmudic mystical texts such as Sefer Hekhalot do speak of a "lesser YHWH", apparently deriving the concept from Exodus 23:21, which mentions an angel of whom God says "my name [understood as YHVH,] is in him".

Exodus 23: 20-21; “Behold, I send an angel before you, to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place which I have prepared. Give heed to him and hearken to his voice, do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression; for my name is in him.

From the Book of Enoch the Prophet 108: 11-13; “And now I will summons the spirits of the good who belong to the generation of light, and I will transform those who were born in darkness, who, in the flesh were not recompensed with such honour as their faithfulness deserved. And I will bring forth in shining light those who have loved my HOLY NAME, and I will seat each one on the throne of his honour, And they shall be resplendent for times without number.”

Yevamot 16b records an utterance, "I have been young; also I have been old" found in Psalm 37:25. The Talmud here attributes this utterance to the Chief Angel and Prince of the World, whom the rabbinic tradition identifies as Metatron.

Michael obeyed He who sat on the throne of the MOST-HIGH in creation and anointed Enoch as the chosen Heir and successor to the MOST-HIGH in the creation, to who Michael is now an obedient servant.

He who sits on the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation is not the creator of the creation in which He was the MOST HIGH in which to have developed.

Do you belong to God's one true religion kjw47?
kjw47
 
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Thu 8 Dec, 2022 06:02 pm
@The Anointed,
Yes i do belong to the true religion-Jehovah witnesses
The Anointed
 
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Thu 8 Dec, 2022 08:40 pm
@kjw47,
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Yes i do belong to the true religion-Jehovah witnesses

So you believe that God impregnated an earthly virgin with his seed and she bore to him a hybrid human like son.

Ah well, some people are so dumb they will believe anything as taught by the great prostitute who sits on the seven hills and is the mother of Harlot daughters, those denominations who were spawned by her false teachings before breaking away from their mother body in order to establish families of their own.

In the days of the Apostle Paul, the people were already beginning to fall away from the truth and following another gospel that was not taught by the word of God or the apostles.

In his 2nd letter to the Corinthians 11: 4; Paul says, “You gladly tolerate anyone who comes to you and preaches a different Jesus, not the one we preached; and you accept a spirit and a gospel completely different from the spirit and the gospel you received from us.”

So, what was that other gospel that was leading the people away from the truth and away from the Jesus as preached by the Apostles, to another false Jesus?

That gospel was the word of the anti-christ, that refused to acknowledge that Jesus had come as a human being, and instead, they believed that he was a spirit, whose humanlike body was able to pass through Mary’s Hymen without breaking it, and who, like some Hologram, would appear and disappear at will. Even in the later days of John, the false teaching that Jesus was not of the seed of Adam from which every human being who has, or ever will walk this earth, has descended, and had not come as a human being, but as a spiritual being, was already beginning to rear its ugly head, and concerning that evolving falsehood, John had this to say.

1st letter of John 4:1-3; “My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the spirit, (My words are spirit) but test them to find out if the spirit [teachings] they have come from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere. This is how you will be able to know if it is Gods spirit/word: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus came as a human being has the spirit who comes from God. But anyone who denies this about Jesus does not have the spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the enemy of the anointed one, the Anti-christ etc.”

2nd letter of John verses 7-10; “Many deceivers have gone out all over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being. Such a person is a deceiver and an enemy of Christ.”

Where would one expect to find the teaching that Jesus was not a true human being, “Born of the seed of Adam” which has been spread ALL OVER THE WORLD.

In Alexandria, by the second century, ‘Docetism,’ the concept that Jesus had existed as a spirit rather than a human being, had all but theoretically been stamped out. But still, there persisted the belief that their Jesus, although seen as a sort of human being, did not have our normal bodily needs, such as eating, drinking and excretion, and Clement the bishop of Alexandria, wrote: “It would be ridiculous to imagine that the redeemer, in order to exist, had the usual needs of man. He only took food and ate it in order that we should not teach about him in a Docetic fashion.” Satan must have had some trouble trying to tempt this false Jesus of theirs into turning stones into bread.

Their Jesus was not the Jesus as taught by the apostles, but that other Jesus, taught by the Anti-Christ, who unlike we mere HUMAN BEINGS, did not need to eat, drink, or go to the toilet, as was taught by one of the great teachers that the authorities of Emperor Constantine’s universal church, used as one of their authorities when trying to defend their false doctrines.

Saint Clement of Alexandria, who was a saint in the Martyrology of the Roman universal church, in support of the great lie, speaks of the time that some imaginary midwife, who was supposed to be at the birth of Jesus, (Non-biblical) told some woman by the name Salome, that the mother was still a virgin after the birth and that her hymen was still intact, and that this supposed Salome, stuck her finger into the mother’s vagina to check, and her hand immediately withered up, but the baby Jesus reached out and touched her hand and healed it.

Clement was accepted as a saint in the universal church, which was established by Emperor Constantine, from a rag-tag group of insult hurling religious bodies, who called themselves christians. Eventually, sick to the stomach with their constant quarreling and abuse toward each other, Constantine summoned all the leaders of those groups to the first ever "World Council of churches," where, in 325 AD, some 300 years after the Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ had been firmly established in Jerusalem, the non-christian, and almost certainly theologically illiterate Constantine, established his universal church, which has nothing to do with the Jesus as taught by the apostles.

Down to the 17th century Clement was venerated as a saint. His name was to be found in the Martyrologies, and his feast fell on December 4. But when the Roman Martyrology was revised by Clement VIII (Pope from 1592 to 1605), his name was dropped from the calendar on the advice of his confessor, Cardinal Baronius. Pope Benedict XIV in 1748 maintained his predecessor's decision on the grounds that Clements life was little-known; that he had never obtained public cultus in the Church; and that some of his doctrines were, if not erroneous, at least highly suspect.

"ERRONEOUS--HIGHLY SUSPECT," they certainly got that right, but by then the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth had become firmly established in the minds of the gullible.
 

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