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Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jan, 2007 03:35 pm
Okie, you are confused. It is "Wellsfong."
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 08:42 am
Judith Miller can now remember details of a meeting that at first could not even remember having. Hmmmm......

"In his most telling foray, Jeffress asked how she could testify that Libby was agitated on June 23 when she couldn't even remember the meeting in her first grand jury testimony. He played a tape of a broadcast interview in which she had said "it's really easy to forget details of a story you're not writing." She testified she never intended to write a Plame story herself.

Miller mostly held firm. Acknowledging her memory "is mostly note-driven," she insisted that rereading the notes "bought back these memories" of the June 23 meeting."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248784,00.html

I still say to Mr. Fitzfong, if a crime was not committed, who cares about all of this?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 08:57 am
Do you really watch Fox News?????









Wow. Shocked
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:03 am
Piffka wrote:
Do you really watch Fox News?????


Um, Piffka ... that's a website. One usually reads a website.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:19 am
What's worse then watching Fox?




Reading it!!!
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:28 am
I haven't checked, but hopefully you could find the same story from other sources you like better. You will still need to know how to read though, instead of simply watching. Forget fiction and movies for a while, Piffka, this is news that you can read, not watch.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:48 am
Okie, the last time I looked it is a serious crime to lie to a grand jury and obstruct justice.

BTW, Fitz has so much other evidence of little Scooter's guilt, he really doesn't need Judith Miller.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 09:53 am
Advocate wrote:
Okie, the last time I looked it is a serious crime to lie to a grand jury and obstruct justice.

BTW, Fitz has so much other evidence of little Scooter's guilt, he really doesn't need Judith Miller.



Can't be too serious, Slick Willy never got any jail time.
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:09 am
How come Judith Miller wasn't accused of lying to the Grand Jury when she did not recall the first meeting the first time she testified? Just a simple question here to try to figure out this court. Is it what you do or who you are when you do it that determines the charges?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:10 am
McGentrix wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Okie, the last time I looked it is a serious crime to lie to a grand jury and obstruct justice. ....



Can't be too serious, Slick Willy never got any jail time.


... but ... that was different ....
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:11 am
The difference being, Fitzgerald knows what he's doing, and Libby is no Clinton.

You guys really don't want to start arguing this again, because it is pretty obvious that the trial isn't going well, and it's going to be embarassing for you when he's convicted.

Cycloptichorn
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:19 am
Embarrassing to who? If he lied, he deserves what he gets. Just like Clinton should have been punished for his lies before the grand jury. After all, "it is a serious crime to lie to a grand jury and obstruct justice. "
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:25 am
Little Scooter's crimes are much more serious. They involve the exposure of a covert CIA agent working in the area of nuclear proliferation.

As I recall, Clinton received a bj in his home from a consenting adult.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:25 am
Uh-oh, Very Happy Bringing that up, are ya? You must be hideously worried.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 10:30 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The difference being, Fitzgerald knows what he's doing, and Libby is no Clinton.

You guys really don't want to start arguing this again, because it is pretty obvious that the trial isn't going well, and it's going to be embarassing for you when he's convicted.

Cycloptichorn


What McG said.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:27 pm
Except that intelligent people know the difference between lying about a consentual sexual incounter vs lying about outing a CIA agent. Some people equate stealing a loaf of bread with stealing millions from investors.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:31 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Except that intelligent people know the difference between lying about a consentual sexual incounter vs lying about outing a CIA agent. Some people equate stealing a loaf of bread with stealing millions from investors.


Lying is lying .... right, Cyclops?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:34 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Except that intelligent people know the difference between lying about a consentual sexual incounter vs lying about outing a CIA agent. Some people equate stealing a loaf of bread with stealing millions from investors.


Lying is lying .... right, Cyclops?


That's right, lying is lying. The scope of the lie doesn't change the fact that both are equally wrong to do.

We have different punishments based upon different circumstances - a feature of any reasonable justice system - but there is no empirical difference.

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:38 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Except that intelligent people know the difference between lying about a consentual sexual incounter vs lying about outing a CIA agent. Some people equate stealing a loaf of bread with stealing millions from investors.


Lying is lying .... right, Cyclops?


That's right, lying is lying. The scope of the lie doesn't change the fact that both are equally wrong to do.

We have different punishments based upon different circumstances - a feature of any reasonable justice system - but there is no empirical difference.

Cycloptichorn


I knew I could get you to agree with me on something.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:41 pm
Well, when you start speaking sense... Smile

Have you been following the trial, Tico? It's so hard to see which way it will go. So much of the outcome rests on subjective judgment by the jurors about whether or not Libby forgot an important detail about an important case.

I am a little bit mystified by the Defense's decision to use a two-prong approach - that Libby didn't consider the detail important, but also that he was set up for a fall in order to protect Rove. I didn't see that coming.

Cycloptichorn
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