Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

I haven't seen you commenting on the 'will of the electorate' very much lately, Timber.

Cycloptichorn

I haven't seen the "will of the electorate" lately.

Haven't been paying attention, have you?

It's tough when your team is getting the crap kicked out of it, believe me, I know...

Cycloptichorn

Cyclops, trying to change the subject are ya?

When the time comes, Cyc, I'll be there.
In the meanwhile, go right ahead and enjoy what you think the opinion polls you follow are telling you.

Oh, they aren't telling me anything. I was just asking a question.

What are they telling you?

Cycloptichorn

'bout what they were telling me at this point in 2000, '02. and '04.

Lemme guess, and '92, '94, '96...

I think you may want to adjust your antenna, it seems to have the same channel on every station for some reason.

Don't blame me for the programming, Cyc.

Timberlandko- I think your instincts are good. You may be aware of

www.tradesports.com

This is a bookmaking Web site. I am sure that you are aware that these bookmakers are completely cold blooded-They only work with ODDS. No partisanship--no political leanings interfere with their ODDS making.

At this time, according to the Atlantic Monthly, www.tradesports.com gives these odds

54% that GOP holds the House in '06

81% that GOP holds the Senate in '06

Quite familiar with Tradesports - which, BTW offers option trading across a broad spectrum of political issues, US and global - down to race-by-race, candidate-by-candidate positions. Also available are reasonably sophisticated, minute-by-minute, trade-by-trade statistical analysis tools familiar to any serious investor. It is by no means the only such service on the web, many of which also afford similar up-to-the-minute charting-and-comparison-over-time niceties, quite handy for determining and tracking broader trendings, in sports, politics, finance, and other theaters. The general idea relates loosely to Econometrics (for an overview of Econometrics, see Predicting Presidential Elections and Other Things: Fair, R. - Stanford University Press, Stanford, CA (2002) ISBN: 0804745099). Over the past several years, the outcome accuracy for final positions, averaged across the major trading indices (trading typically is halted 24hrs prior to the commencement of the event being traded) has been above the 95th percentile, with a standard error of under 2%.

Are you sure you didn't mangle the 5 and the 4? I checked five minutes ago, and "GOP holding the house" is traded at 43%

The trade figures update throughout the trading day, Thomas - subscribers can access dynamically updating charts, which refresh about once a minute. Of more value than any one snapshot-in-time is trending, which can be followed quite easilly. Also useful is to watch the activity on the orderbook and accumulation/distribution money flow - excellent forward indicators of price-level pressure. Its really just options trading - puts and calls, complete with opportunity for hedges, straddles, and early liquidations. Once you've bought a position, you can trade it any way the market will bear, right up to the final closing of trade for the issue. There's even side-trading, or off-the-board, activity among some hardcore afficianados - though thats not only unofficial, its sorta frowned upon. Just like any other commodities and securities exchanges

Thomas- You may indeed be correct. But please look at my post again- I reported that, according to the Atlantic Monthly, Sept, Issue.

I did not directly check the website.

Thanks for your information!!!

Have the libs lost all interest in the Fitzgerald investigation? Seems so doesn't it? The press is fast losing interest also it seems. Hmmmmm. Dirty rotten scoundrels anyway. Publish their lies for 2 years, and after their house of cards scandal falls apart, as most of them do, they lose interest, and we are left to clean up the mess. Meanwhile half the populace still believes their lies.

By the way, where are all the great investigative reporters finding out who typed the forged documents for Dan Rather? Lousy rotten and totally incompetent investigative reporters. Dan Rather, how about it, theres your chance, can't you find out who typed the documents? Pehaps you could salvage something useful out of your rotten career? After all, it is a felony isn't it to try to fraudulantly influence a federal election?

okie,

Lost interest? Libby's trial is coming up yet. The lawsuits by the Wilsons will be starting. There is plenty of fireworks to happen yet. All scandals have lulls when there isn't much information.

The idea that Armitage makes everyone silent is a RW talking point. It doesn't change any of the other facts.

Bernard spams again. Why bother to read his posts -- you have seen them before.

Okie, the media ebbs and flows on a subject as new developments occur. According to the right several years ago, the story would already be dead. It is far from dead and we are going to hear a lot more on the matter.

It seems that you guys on the right are unpatriotic. Here, the White House outed a CIA agent doing critical work, and all you can do is criticize her and her husband, who also served the country well.

Rather was a great anchor, and no one laid a finger on him. At the end of his career, he was snookered with some phony documents. Big deal! Interestingly, the material exposing Bush's desertion in the Guard was accurate.

Rather was a great anchor, ha ha. He snookered us with so much nonsense it is pathetic. Remember the GM pickups exploding gas tanks? Another example of frauds foisted onto the viewer. I remember many of the hit pieces, I cannot remember the details, on many, but I do remember thinking this is nonsense or this is so much slanted garbage. How naive are you, Advocate? No wonder you believe the junk thrown at you now, Advocate.

And Advocate you cannot or will not get it through your thick head that no crime was committed. If there was, Armitage should have been indicted by now, and he never will be. Read the law, Advocate, and maybe you would learn something. No crime pertaining to outing Plame was committed and Fitz admitted as much a long long time ago. I remember it in one of the first press conferences he held.

Okie- Advocate is so IGNORANT that he? she? does not realize that when he? or she? is posting, it only shows massive IGNORANCE to ignore evidence. I DEFY Advocate to rebut the points in the Isikoff article. All Advocate will do is to mumble something about "spin" thus proving that he? she? is one of the most IGNORANT posters on A2K who is utterly unable to read evidence and try to rebut it!!

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August 29, 2006
Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme
By Jack Kelly

A new book by Michael Isikoff, an investigative reporter for Newsweek, and David Corn, who writes for the far left wing magazine The Nation, casts many powerful people in Washington in an unflattering light -- but not the people who Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn wish to besmirch.

A brief review for those of you who have lives, and who consequently haven't been following closely the details of the Plame Name Game: In his 2003 State of the Union address, President Bush said: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

First in leaks to reporters, and then in his own op-ed in the New York Times, a retired diplomat, Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, said the president was lying. His claim to speak with authority was that in the spring of 2002, the CIA had sent him to Niger to see if Saddam had tried to buy uranium there.

Mr. Wilson's charge was important because it marked the beginning of the "Bush lied" meme about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee; the Robb-Silberman Commission on prewar intelligence, and the British Butler Commission all concluded it was Mr. Wilson who was not telling the truth. Saddam had indeed tried to buy uranium in Africa, as even Mr. Wilson himself had acknowledged to the CIA officers who debriefed him after his Niger trip.

One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to Niger at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney. In his July 14, 2003 column, Robert Novak disclosed that he had been sent instead at the insistence of his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.

Ms. Plame had once been an undercover operative. Concern was expressed that the leaker had violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Mr. Wilson blamed the leak on White House political guru Karl Rove, claiming it was payback for his "whistle-blowing." A special prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, was appointed to investigate the charge. Mr. Fitzgerald eventually indicted I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, then the chief of staff to the vice president, on a charge of having lied to a grand jury about from whom he had learned of Ms. Plame's occupation. He is awaiting trial.


Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn disclose that it was then Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage who disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to Bob Novak, which is not exactly news to those who have been following the case. But Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn provide details which reflect poorly on Mr. Armitage, Mr. Fitzgerald, and the journalists who knew the truth at the time.

Mr. Armitage disclosed to his boss, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and to Justice Department officials his role in the case in October, 2003, after a second Novak column, Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn say.

For more than three years, Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby have been accused, falsely, of being the source of the leak. Mr. Armitage, Mr. Powell, and Justice department officials knew the truth, but said nothing. Clarice Feldman, a Washington, D.C. lawyer, described Mr. Armitage's silence as "inexplicable and perfidious."

"Had he spoken out publicly immediately, could there have been a reason for the press to have demanded the appointment of the feckless special prosecutor?" she asked.

Mr. Fitzgerald knew in his first few days on the job that Mr. Armitage was the leaker; that the leak was inadvertent, and that the Intelligence Identities Act hadn't been violated. Yet he has persisted in a sham prosecution.

Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn write that: "the Plame leak in Novak's column has long been cited by Bush administration critics as a deliberate act of payback, orchestrated to punish and/or discredit Joe Wilson after he charged that the Bush administration had misled the American public about prewar intelligence."

They add, lamely, that: "The Armitage news does not fit neatly into that framework."

They don't mention that Mr. Isikoff and (especially) Mr. Corn have been among the journalists flogging this meme, and the time that it takes to research and write a book indicates they've known for quite some time that it isn't true. They're only willing to tell the truth, now, for money.

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All ADVOCATE HAS TO DO IS TO REBUT THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH- WITH EVIDENCE. OF COURSE--NONE OF HIS? HER? USUAL MEANINGLESS UNSOURCED BOVINE EXCREMENT WILL DO!

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No indictments have been brought on the charge Mr. Fitzgerald was appointed to investigate, because it is clear there was no violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The act applies only to those who are operating under cover overseas, or who have done so within five years of the disclosure of their identities. Ms. Plame had been manning a desk at CIA headquarters in Langley, Va. for longer than that.


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