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Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

 
 
Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 06:31 am
Wow! Okie and MM back to back! The a2k gifts that keep on giving!

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 07:12 am
I don't think there will be too much difficulty in proving Plame's identity was secret Tico. Because people did a search and found clues after she was outed doesn't prove much of anything. The majority at the time of her outing were not aware of her work for the CIA. Fitzgerald has stipulated that her identity was secret after the FBI interviewed people that knew her.

People found all kinds of clues about the 9/11 bombers after the fact but that didn't change the fact that their plans were secret.

Your article is misleading Tico. Fitzgerald told the court he wasn't going to introduce evidence about Plame's status because it has nothing to do with the lies told by Libby. It has no relevance.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 08:26 am
I see Ol' Joe's out there now, stumping for money " ... to help us defray the costs of pressing this lawsuit".

Great entertainment value here already, with ever so much more promised. This is gonna be even more fun to watch than Dan Rather's implosion.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 08:50 am
Let's hope that new stuff comes out so it isn't just more yada, yada, yada.
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 10:11 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
Wow! Okie and MM back to back! The a2k gifts that keep on giving!


Roxxi, you always have so much pertinent information and evidence to offer don't you? It would be nice if you would at least try.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 10:27 am
parados wrote:
Your article is misleading Tico. Fitzgerald told the court he wasn't going to introduce evidence about Plame's status because it has nothing to do with the lies told by Libby. It has no relevance.


Well, I eagerly await the next indictments to come from Fitzgerald.


I might also note that Plame's lawyers did not allege she was a "covert agent." I find it interesting, if not revealing.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 10:37 am
revel wrote:
I am glad that they filed a lawsuit, I am sure if they didn't think they stood a chance of pulling it off they wouldn't have done it ...


You should not discount the effort to gain political points as a partial motivation.

Quote:
... and this way a lot of stuff that Fitzerold didn't disclose might be revealed in a civil lawsuit.


Hopefully so.

I'm very pleased they decided to file the lawsuit. I expect things to go very badly for the Wilsons.


And Lawrence O'Donnell, the leftist at Huffington Post, seems to agree:

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I think winning better not be the point, because the one quick disagreement I have with John Dean is I think this is a very weak caseIt is a political piece of litigation, and you know that by reading the first paragraph of the complaint, Keith. This is not a legalistic document.


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And they're going to get smacked around during the discovery phase, if it gets that far down the road.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:03 am
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Laughing

First of all, the Wilsons are completely dumb if they have a lawyer charging them dime one for handling their case. Are you kidding me? They couldn't find anybody to do it on a contingency fee basis? Even considering it's a weak case, you know lots of firms would jump at the chance to represent them. But sure, help the Wilsons pay for the costs associated with their likely fruitless effort of suing to try and recover millions in monetary damages. What a deal. If Joe didn't make enough money with his book deal, and Valerie doesn't make enough with her book deal, and he doesn't make enough with his speaking engagements, and she doesn't make enough with the speaking engagements you know she's going to get, I guess they can always fall back on the millions brought in by this passing of the collection plate.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:08 am
Further proof that the Wilsons have suffered a gross invasion of their privacy, as alleged in their Complaint:

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:13 am
Tico,

Can you find photos from before the release of her name? The many photos you found since seem to support the allegation.

Whether the Plames were nice about the sudden invasion and photos really has no bearing on the facts of it occurring.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:14 am
Ticomaya wrote:
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Laughing

First of all, the Wilsons are completely dumb if they have a lawyer charging them dime one for handling their case. Are you kidding me? They couldn't find anybody to do it on a contingency fee basis? Even considering it's a weak case, you know lots of firms would jump at the chance to represent them. But sure, help the Wilsons pay for the costs associated with their likely fruitless effort of suing to try and recover millions in monetary damages. What a deal. If Joe didn't make enough money with his book deal, and Valerie doesn't make enough with her book deal, and he doesn't make enough with his speaking engagements, and she doesn't make enough with the speaking engagements you know she's going to get, I guess they can always fall back on the millions brought in by this passing of the collection plate.


Now you are accusing the Wilson's of fraud Tico? Interesting how the smears just keep on coming.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:29 am
Fraud? Probabably not; more like delusional arrogance. Talk about outta touch with reality - no wonder these two are heros to the loony left Bushophobes.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:33 am
Collecting money for a legal fund and then using that money for personal use would be fraud. Tico has insinuated that the Wilsons are planning to do just that.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:43 am
timberlandko wrote:
Fraud? Probabably not; more like delusional arrogance. Talk about outta touch with reality - no wonder these two are heros to the loony left Bushophobes.

I'll let the court be the judge of that.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:48 am
parados wrote:
Collecting money for a legal fund and then using that money for personal use would be fraud. Tico has insinuated that the Wilsons are planning to do just that.


I suspect they will turn over any collected monies in excess of the total of all of their legal bills to a 501(c)(3) organization to assist other similarly situated CIA employees. Now, of course that will be after they have paid themselves a hefty fee to compensate them for all the time they had to spend preparing for their testimony, gathering documents, and generally thinking about the Libby trial and their own lawsuit.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 11:56 am
Ticomaya wrote:
parados wrote:
Collecting money for a legal fund and then using that money for personal use would be fraud. Tico has insinuated that the Wilsons are planning to do just that.


I suspect they will turn over any collected monies in excess of the total of all of their legal bills to a 501(c)(3) organization to assist other similarly situated CIA employees. Now, of course that will be after they have paid themselves a hefty fee to compensate them for all the time they had to spend preparing for their testimony, gathering documents, and generally thinking about the Libby trial and their own lawsuit.

That is a lot different than your original statement Tico? Now you are claiming it would all be legal related.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 12:03 pm
parados wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
parados wrote:
Collecting money for a legal fund and then using that money for personal use would be fraud. Tico has insinuated that the Wilsons are planning to do just that.


I suspect they will turn over any collected monies in excess of the total of all of their legal bills to a 501(c)(3) organization to assist other similarly situated CIA employees. Now, of course that will be after they have paid themselves a hefty fee to compensate them for all the time they had to spend preparing for their testimony, gathering documents, and generally thinking about the Libby trial and their own lawsuit.

That is a lot different than your original statement Tico? Now you are claiming it would all be legal related.


Sure it would ...

<wink, wink, nudge, nudge>
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 12:13 pm
So now you are saying they will take more than their legal fees?

You can't seem to get it out Tico. Which is it? Would they take the total of their legal fees or more than their legal fees?

If they use it to pay their legal fees then it would not be what you originally alleged and seem to be nudging and winking again.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 12:37 pm
Anyone unable to recognize this latest silly Wilson stunt for the balatant book tour play it is must be a Democrat. It ain't about truth, justice, and The American Way, it ain't even about vindication. Its about the talkshows, the op-ed columns, and the blogs.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 01:12 pm
It happens every time. The Wilsons are true victims of the White House hatchet men. Their reward is to get swift-boated.

The Wilsons will have no trouble getting ex-CIA agents testifying on their behalf. Further, some interesting things will come out when the defendants are made to testify under oath.
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