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Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

 
 
Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 12:23 pm
Ticomaya wrote:


No ****, since no sane person would read this drunken fool's drivel much less respond to it.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 12:24 pm
I saw Hitchens on Hardball the other night. Same ol' gasbag as always. He's going to be pissed when they frog-march Bushco out of the White House for lying.

Blueflame, great article; I'm going to read more about it and post later, but if Leopold turns out to be correct, then it certainly doesn't bode well for those who contend that Bush didn't lie about intel.

Cycloptichorn
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 12:54 pm
Gee - the Bushophobes haven't been this excited since they followed Dan Rather down the primrose path.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 12:57 pm
Don't kid yourself; we're far, far more excited now than we were then. What with the opinions of the electorate swaying the Dems way as the Republicans prove themselves more and more incompetent when it comes to the business of running the country in a responsible manner.

Cycloptichorn
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 02:00 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Gee - the Bushophobes haven't been this excited since they followed Dan Rather down the primrose path.


It is not only "bushophobes" (another label) who think something stinks with in the WH with this whole Plame deal. Whether anything ever comes of it, who knows? The point is already made with the American public though.

Gallup: Most Americans Critical of President in CIA Leak Case

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NEW YORK A new Gallup poll released today finds that most Americans are critical of President Bush's actions in the Plame/CIA leak scandal, but only one in four is following the matter closely.

Overall, 63% of Americans believe Bush did something either illegal (21%) or unethical (42%), while 28% say he did nothing wrong. While many more Democrats are critical, 3 in 10 Republicans also find that Bush did something illegal or unethical.

The more closely people are following the issue, the more likely they are to say he did something illegal rather than merely unethical.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 06:27 pm
"Bushophobes" ...quite a nice label. I prefer "sane."
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Apr, 2006 07:07 pm
Vietnamnurse wrote:
"Bushophobes" ...quite a nice label. I prefer "sane."


Better a Bushophobe than a Bushsucker.

Anon
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 19 Apr, 2006 07:59 am
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 19 Apr, 2006 12:13 pm
Valerie Plame Expected for White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002382755
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 08:43 am
Grand Jury Hears Evidence Against Rove
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report

Thursday 20 April 2006

Just as the news broke Wednesday about Scott McClellan resigning as White House press secretary and Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove shedding some of his policy duties, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald met with the grand jury hearing evidence in the CIA leak case and introduced additional evidence against Rove, attorneys and other US officials close to the investigation said.

The grand jury session in federal court in Washington, DC, sources close to the case said, was the first time this year that Fitzgerald told the jurors that he would soon present them with a list of criminal charges he intends to file against Rove in hopes of having the grand jury return a multi-count indictment against Rove.

In an interview Wednesday, Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove remains a "subject" of Fitzgerald's two-year-old probe.

"Mr. Rove is still a subject of the investigation," Luskin said. In a previous interview, Luskin asserted that Rove would not be indicted by Fitzgerald, but he was unwilling to make that prediction again Wednesday.

"Mr. Fitzgerald hasn't made any decision on the charges and I can't speculate what the outcome will be," Luskin said. "Mr. Rove has cooperated completely with the investigation."

Fitzgerald is said to have introduced more evidence Wednesday alleging Rove lied to FBI investigators and the grand jury when he was questioned about how he found out that Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the CIA and whether he shared that information with the media, attorneys close to the case said.

Fitzgerald told the grand jury that Rove lied to investigators and the prosecutor eight out of the nine times he was questioned about the leak and also tried to cover-up his role in disseminating Plame Wilson's CIA status to at least two reporters.

Additionally, an FBI investigator reread to jurors testimony from other witnesses in the case that purportedly implicates Rove in playing a role in the leak and the campaign to discredit Plame Wilson's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, whose criticism of the Bush administration's pre-war Iraq intelligence lead to his wife being unmasked as a covert CIA operative.

Luskin said Rove has not discussed any plea deal with Fitzgerald.

"Mr. Rove's cooperation is not contingent on any plea agreement with the prosecutor," Luskin said. "He has always cooperated voluntarily and unconditionally."

Luskin would not discuss the substance of his most recent communication with Fitzgerald nor would he say whether Rove would testify against his former White House colleague, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, who was indicted in the leak case for perjury and obstruction of justice.

Luskin wouldn't comment on whether the investigation of Rove continues to center on alleged misleading statements to which Rove testified regarding a July 2003 conversation he had about Plame Wilson with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper.

Sources close to the investigation, however, confirmed that is exactly what Fitzgerald has continued to focus on and what he discussed with the grand jury Wednesday.

Luskin said that Rove simply forgot about his conversation with Cooper when he testified before the grand jury because Rove had been dealing with other pressing matters, such as Bush's reelection campaign.

Rove's story began to unravel when Fitzgerald discovered the existence of an email Rove sent to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley after he spoke with Cooper on July 11, 2003.

Rove did not disclose the existence of the email during his first two appearances before the grand jury. Rove testified that he found out about Plame Wilson after her identity was disclosed in several news stories.

"I didn't take the bait," Rove wrote in the email to Hadley immediately following his conversation with Cooper. "Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he's got a welfare reform story coming. When he finished his brief heads-up he immediately launched into Niger. Isn't this damaging? Hasn't the president been hurt? I didn't take the bait, but I said if I were him I wouldn't get Time far out in front on this."

Hadley, sources said, is also a subject of the investigation.

In December, Luskin made a desperate attempt to keep his client out of Fitzgerald's crosshairs.

Luskin revealed to Fitzgerald that Viveca Novak - a reporter working for Time magazine who wrote several stories about the Plame Wilson case - inadvertently tipped him off in early 2004 that her colleague at the magazine, Matt Cooper, would be forced to testify that Rove was his source who told him about Plame Wilson's CIA status.

Novak - who bears no relation to syndicated columnist Robert Novak, the journalist who first published Plame Wilson's name and CIA status in a July 14, 2003, column - met Luskin in Washington, DC, in the summer of 2004, and over drinks, the two discussed Fitzgerald's investigation into the Plame Wilson leak.

Luskin assured Novak that Rove learned Plame Wilson's name and CIA status after it was published in news accounts and that only then did he phone other journalists to draw their attention to it. But Novak told Luskin that everyone in the Time newsroom knew Rove was Cooper's source and that he would testify to that in an upcoming grand jury appearance, these sources said.

According to Luskin's account, after he met with Viveca Novak he contacted Rove and told him about his conversation with her. The two of them then began an exhaustive search through White House phone logs and emails for any evidence that proved that Rove had spoken with Cooper. Luskin said that during this search an email was found that Rove sent to Hadley immediately and it was subsequently turned over to Fitzgerald.

Still, Rove's account of his conversation with Cooper went nothing like he described in his email to Hadley, according to an email Cooper sent to his editor at Time magazine following his conversation with Rove in July 2003.

"It was, KR said, [former Ambassador Joseph] Wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized [Wilson's] trip," Cooper's July 11, 2003, email to his editor said.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 02:51 pm
Well, let's see, pundits said Fitz would wrap up the case in a few weeks if there were no other targets. It's been, what? Five months now?


...tick...tick...tick...
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:02 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:


No ****, since no sane person would read this drunken fool's drivel much less respond to it.


The right seems to be quite enamoured with drunken fools and drivel!

Anon
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:08 pm
blueflame, Good article. Repubs still don't get it! Bush said at the beginning of the leak that anybody found leaking the information on Plame will not work in his administration, then changed it to "if they are crimanally charged." If Bush is responsible for the leak, he needs to resign, but any charges against him will not be forthcoming.

I can't imagine how so many Americans can still support Bush as our president. He's a liar, a terrorist, a killer, and the worst enemy Americans ever had.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:28 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
blueflame, Good article. Repubs still don't get it! Bush said at the beginning of the leak that anybody found leaking the information on Plame will not work in his administration, then changed it to "if they are crimanally charged."


I know your memory is a bit faulty, c.i., but you have been wrong every time you have made this claim in this thread. LINK

How many times do you need to be reminded of this before it sticks?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:35 pm
Rove is going to be indicted.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:36 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
blueflame, Good article. Repubs still don't get it! Bush said at the beginning of the leak that anybody found leaking the information on Plame will not work in his administration, then changed it to "if they are crimanally charged."


I know your memory is a bit faulty, c.i., but you have been wrong every time you have made this claim in this thread. LINK

How many times do you need to be reminded of this before it sticks?



Bullshit
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 20 Apr, 2006 03:44 pm
From the NYT:

In Court Filings, Cheney Aide Says Bush Approved Leak
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 07:17 pm
MSNBC confirms: Outed CIA agent was working on Iran

RAW STORY
Published: Monday May 1, 2006




On Chris Matthews' Hardball Monday evening, just moments ago, MSNBC correspondent David Shuster confirmed what RAW STORY first reported in February: that outed CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson was working on Iran at the time she was outed.

RAW STORY's Larisa Alexandrovna broke the story earlier this year, which went unnoticed by the mainstream media (Read our full story).

According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

Reports Shuster in this rush transcript: "INTELLIGENCE SOURCES SAY VALERIE WILSON WAS PART OF AN OPERATION THREE YEARS AGO TRACKING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS MATERIAL INTO IRAN. AND THE SOURCES ALLEGE THAT WHEN MRS. WILSON'S COVER WAS BLOWN, THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO TRACK IRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WAS DAMAGED AS WELL."

MSNBC transcript follows (we apologize for the caps; they were in the original). If you've got the video, send it to [email protected].

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Matthews: Ever since the White House/CIA leak scandal erupted, the nation has seen photographs here and there of Valerie Wilson, the CIA operative whose identity was blown. Now, thanks to a black tie event Saturday night, we have some video. Hardball correspondent David Shuster brings it to us and has the latest on the CIA leak case.

(David Shuster)

FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS REVEALED HER UNDERCOVER IDENTITY AND RUINED HER CAREER --- FORMER CIA OPERATIVE VALERIE WILSON... ACCOMPANIED BY HER HUSBAND JOE WILSON, STEPPED IN FRONT OF THE TELEVISION CAMERAS. AND THEIR RED CARPET APPEARANCE SATURDAY NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT'S DINNER COULD NOT HAVE COME AT A MORE DRAMATIC MOMENT IN THE CIA LEAK INVESTIGATION ITSELF.

PROSECUTOR PATRICK FITZGERALD IS WEIGHING WHETHER TO INDICT TOP PRESIDENTIAL ADVISOR KARL ROVE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS BUSH'S BRAIN. AND, WHITE HOUSE SUPPORTERS ARE STEPPING UP THEIR ARGUMENT THAT UNVEILING WILSON'S IDENITY WAS NOT A CRIME. JOE WILSON'S RESPONSE?

Wilson: "Well the CIA I think has responded first by asking the Justice Department to open an investigation and my judgment the leak of national security information is a betrayal a minimum of one's security clearance and certainly of the public trust and I for one can't understand how Mr. Rove remains on the payroll of the US Government."

EARLY IN THE CASE, ROVE ADMITTED TO INVESTIGATORS THAT HE OUTED VALERIE WILSON'S IDENTITY TO COLUMNIST ROBERT NOVAK -- NOVAK WAS THE FIRST JOURNALIST TO PUBLISH WILSON'S IDENTITY AND THE FIRST TO TALK ABOUT IT TO INVESTIGATORS.

AND LAST WEEK, KARL ROVE TESTIFIED AGAIN HE MAY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE WILSON'S WITH TIME MAGAZINE'S MATT COOPER.

ROVE SAID HE DENIED THAT UNDER OATH FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF MEMORY PROBLEMS. A CASE OF BAD MEMORY IS SCOOTER LIBBY'S DEFENSE.

BUT IN REGARDS TO KARL ROVE, LAWYERS IN THE CASE SAY PROSECUTOR FITZGERALD IS STILL TROUBLED BY THE TIMING OF ROVE'S ROLLING DISCLOSURES: IT SEEMS THAT ROVE'S MEMORY PERKS UP WITH EVERY NEW INDICATION SOMEONE ELSE WILL EXPOSE HIM. WHEN ROVE FINALLY BEGAN TO UPDATE HIS TESTIMONY IN OCTOBER 2004... IT WAS JUST DAYS AFTER COOPER WAS FIRST HELD IN CONTEMPT FOR REFUSING TO DISCLOSE CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES. AND ROVE DID NOT GIVE COOPER A CLEAR WAIVER TO TESTIFY UNTIL AFTER COOPER'S APPEALS HAD BEEN EXHAUSTED 9 MONTHS LATER.

IN ANY CASE, AS PROSECUTOR PATRICK FITZGERALD CONSIDERS WHETHER TO CHARGE KARL ROVE WITH PERJURY, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, OR WORSE... MSNBC HAS LEARNED NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE WHITE HOUSE LEAKS.

INTELLIGENCE SOURCES SAY VALERIE WILSON WAS PART OF AN OPERATION THREE YEARS AGO TRACKING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS MATERIAL INTO IRAN. AND THE SOURCES ALLEGE THAT WHEN MRS. WILSON'S COVER WAS BLOWN, THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO TRACK IRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WAS DAMAGED AS WELL.

THE WHITE HOUSE CONSIDERS IRAN TO BE ONE OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST THREATS.

President George W. Bush: "the Iranians should not have a nuclear weapon, the capacity to make a nuclear weapon, or the knowledge as to how to make a nuclear weapon. And now that we've got the goal in mind, we're working on the tactics."

BUT THE TACTICS ARE NOT AS CLEAR IN THE MIDST OF RECORD LOW APPROVAL RATINGS AND A DIPLOMATIC AND MILITARY PLAYING FIELD LIMITED BY THE U-S WAR IN IRAQ.

Madeleine Albright: "The world is in total turmoil right now. Worst I've ever seen it. (reporter) How do we get out of it? Whats the number one issue as far as whats related to that turmoil? (Albright) Iraq. (reporter) What do we do about it? (Albright walks away)

THE IRAQ WAR IS THE BACKDROP FOR THE CIA LEAK CASE. JOE WILSON HAD CRITICIZED THE ADMINISTRATION'S CASE FOR THE IRAQ WAR... AND THE WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO UNDERCUT HIM BY LEAKING, AMONG OTHER THINGS, INFORMATION ABOUT HIS CIA WIFE.

Shuster: THE WILSONS SAY THEY'VE SPOKEN TO PROSECUTOR PATRICK FITZGERALD TWICE SINCE THE CASE BEGAN... AND THE LAST TIME WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO, THEY ARE WAITING, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, FOR SOME SORT OF ANNOUNCEMENT FROM FITZGERALD'S OFFICE ABOUT ROVE. KARL ROVE'S ATTORNEYS SAY THEY'VE BEEN TOLD BY FITZGERALD THAT NO DECISION WILL BE MADE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER WEEK. CHRIS?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 07:39 pm
I'm not so sure why Fitzgerald's investigation is taking so long; most of the stuff must be all old hat and repetitions. How long does it take to keep asking the same question if it's that important? How many versions in the answer is Fitzgerald looking for?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 08:53 pm
ci, ya gotta remember a few facts about the case.

First, Fitzgerald is reportedly one of the best in the biz. Thorough. Broke up some organized crime over the last fifteen years. He wouldn't bring a case forward unless it was solid, and that takes a long time when the criminal organization that you are dealing with has the resources of the WH.

Second, The stakes are huge; we all know that this case could lead up to the VP or Prez himself. Fitz was given the explicit ability to investigate other crimes during his investigation, and there is some thought that Fitz has been looking into acts of pre-war intelligence manipulation.

Third, Fitzgerald has been working on a couple of other cases simultaneously- Lord Conrad Black case, and the recent Gov. Ryan indictment; Mayor Daly in Chicago, and the RISCISO indictments he just started on in Feburary.

He's just plain busy and thorough. Give it time, and it will all come out in the end. Here's the money quote that makes me think so:

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In his first press conference after announcing Libby's indictment, Fitzgerald was asked about comments by Republicans such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, who said "I certainly hope that if there is going to be an indictment that says something happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality..." Fitzgerald responded, "That talking point won't fly... The truth is the engine of our judicial system. If you compromise the truth, the whole process is lost … if we were to walk away from this, we might as well hand in our jobs."


Cycloptichorn
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