Ticomaya wrote:kuvasz wrote:Ticomaya wrote:Okay ... Fitzgerald can't discern Libby's intent following Libby's testimony, which he couldn't do if Libby plead the Fifth. So how did Libby's alleged lies further impede Fitzgerald's prosecution of any crimes involving the disclosure of Plame's identity?
The "how?" is cited by Fitzgerald in the indictment.
[quote]"In or about March 2004, in the District of Columbia,
I. LEWIS LIBBY, also known as "SCOOTER LIBBY,"defendant herein, did knowingly and corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, namely proceedings before Grand Jury 03-3, by misleading and deceiving the grand jury as to when, and the manner and means by which, LIBBY acquired and subsequently disclosed to the media information concerning the employment of Valerie Wilson by the CIA.
32. It was part of the corrupt endeavor that during his grand jury testimony, defendant LIBBY made the following materially false and intentionally misleading statements and representations, in substance, under oath:
In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1503.
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No, that is not the "how."
I really don't want to discuss this issue with you, kuvasz, since I've already discussed it with KW, who now understands, and just now with Cyclops, who also understands my point. Just refer back to my various responses to them if you are going to make the same arguments they did.[/quote]
Still playing the obtuse angle again I see.
The "how?" is that if Irving Libby states that he did not know of Wilson's "classified" status then anyone else whom he told can not be held to knowingly revealed classified secrets when they mentioned them to those without the necessary governmental clearance. there is documented evidence that other white house personnel told reporters of wilson's employment with CIA and that passing on that information occurred after Libby meeting with them or contacting them about Wilson; that Rove told Cooper of Wilson's employment with CIA, that Rove confirmed to Novak of Wilson's employment at CIA.
this comes in two parts: did Irving Libby knowingly pass on to others classified data, and did Libby tell other parties that this information was itself classified.
for the first part, there is documented evidence that Libby knew that Wilson's identity was classified, but it is still questionable whether he told others it was. the latter unanswerd question is one reason that Rove has not yet been indicted for passing classified information on to reporters.
