Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

It seems to me this directly contradicts her husband's apparent claims that George Bush knew all along there was no WMD

... and I remain totally convinced the administration had every reason to be ticked off.

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It seems to me this directly contradicts her husband's apparent claims that George Bush knew all along there was no WMD

I've highlighted the error in your posting.

You're convinced that nobody did anything wrong, b/c it would be too harmful for you to face the truth, Okie: that, even if they had good intentions, your elected leaders egregariously broke the law in order to punish someone. They showed poor moral and terrible ethical sense in their choices; and it wasn't a one-off event, either. That's how they have governed the entire time.

Cycloptichorn

They lied, they still lie and you make apologies for them. Their lies have caused the deaths of thousands of people. Just what does that make you, Okie, really, truly, what in heavens name does that make you?

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It seems to me this directly contradicts her husband's apparent claims that George Bush knew all along there was no WMD

I've highlighted the error in your posting.

You're convinced that nobody did anything wrong, b/c it would be too harmful for you to face the truth, Okie: that, even if they had good intentions, your elected leaders egregariously broke the law in order to punish someone. They showed poor moral and terrible ethical sense in their choices; and it wasn't a one-off event, either. That's how they have governed the entire time.

Cycloptichorn

I don't see any error, cyclops, as that was the insinuation of Joseph Wilson's entire operation. The wedge event was yellowcake in Niger, but the bottom line issue was WMD in Iraq, and here we have Valerie Plame Wilson in her own words admitting she thought there possibly was WMD in Iraq and feared for the safety of our troops. Yet we have Joseph Wilson on a mission to insinuate there was none and Bush knew it. Not even his own wife, Valerie knew it, and that was supposedly her specialty at the CIA. They continue to poke holes in their own spin.

And for the umpteenth time, there is no credible evidence that elected leaders broke the law, none cyclops.

I continue to try to point you to the real issue, and that is the incompetence at the CIA.

There is zero evidence that Plame was any kind of expert on Iraq's WMD, or lack thereof.

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There is zero evidence that Plame was any kind of expert on Iraq's WMD, or lack thereof.

I take it, then, that you disbelieve what David Corn and Michael Isikoff have to say about that in their book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War?

According to them, Plame was in charge of the operations group of the Joint Task Force on Iraq, charged with interviewing and debriefing Iraqi scientists about the Iraqi weapons program. To hear them tell it -- and one would guess you'd be big fans of theirs -- she was quite the expert on that very subject.

"We knew nothing about what was going on in Iraq," a CIA official recalled. "We were way behind the eight ball. We had to look under every rock." Wilson, too, occasionally flew overseas to monitor operations. She also went to Jordan to work with Jordanian intelligence officials who had intercepted a shipment of aluminum tubes heading to Iraq that CIA analysts were claiming--wrongly--were for a nuclear weapons program. (The analysts rolled over the government's top nuclear experts, who had concluded the tubes were not destined for a nuclear program.)

The JTFI found nothing. The few scientists it managed to reach insisted Saddam had no WMD programs. Task force officers sent reports detailing the denials into the CIA bureaucracy. The defectors were duds--fabricators and embellishers.

There was no intelligence to find on Saddam's WMDs because the weapons did not exist.

As a CIA employee still sworn to secrecy, she wasn't able to explain publicly that she had spent nearly two years searching for evidence to support the Administration's justification for war and had come up empty.

To dredge up old history, I ran across this, quoting what Valerie Plame herself said about Saddam Hussein and WMD when we invaded Iraq. This question and answer is in regard to her book.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/10/29/DI2007102901429.html

"Annapolis, Md.: Thanks for participating in the discussion. I have a question concerning the Bush administration's assertion that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They claim that as far as they knew the intelligence services were all certain that Iraq had them and that they could be a danger to us. What was your opinion before the invasion (and that of your fellow analysts), did you believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?

Valerie Plame: We certainly knew that Saddam was an evil tyrant who had used WMD on his own people. We knew that in the shadow of 9/11, it would not have been prudent to give him the benefit of the doubt. He was clearly up to no good. As the invasion of Iraq was launched in March 2003, my greatest fear was the I and my former CIA colleagues had somehow missed a WMD cache, or we just didn't find the right scientist to talk to so as to understand the state of their WMD programs. I was beside myself thinking of the potential WMD threats to US troops that we had not found. "

Joe Wilson was the perfect person to go to Niger, and he got it right. As a good patriot, he told the world how Bush lied about yellow cake.

There is zero evidence that Plame was any kind of expert on Iraq's WMD, or lack thereof.

"The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

"There was one problem. It was not true.

"I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."

What the hell, do you clowns think the whole world is as stupid as YOU are??

There are some things which no serious nation can tolerate; one such is having a dickhead like Saddam Hussein poison its senate office buildings with anthrax.