Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

You continue to bring this stuff up. I stand behind Hannity. Here is the quote from his conversation with the caller:

"HANNITY: You know, what a -- I wish I'd thought of that. Hang on a sec. Maybe it's 'cause I didn't go to bed till 6 o'clock. All right, you get credit. You know what? Yeah, what about all those women that accused her husband of being a serial abuser? Oh, she didn't pay any attention. Were they invisible?"

I agree with Hannity. The caller made a good point. Apparently all those women that accused Clinton of abuse are invisible to Hillary. No lie there. It is all true. Excellent point, advocate. And to this day, the Vince Foster story has many, many inconsistencies. I don't blame many people for wondering about it. The Clintons have left a literal trail of suspicion and corruption their entire life. Hannity cannot help that, but he has a right to comment on it. These are not lies, but comments on highly suspicious events.

Another correction. Hannity is not a hero, but he does provide straightforward and honest commentary on the news, most of which I agree with, not all. If Hannity is misinterpreted as stating that Clinton was convicted of rape or that Foster was murdered, I think that is a misinterpretation. He is merely saying there are alot of unanswered questions and good reasons to be suspicious of the Foster affair, and the accusations against Clinton by women are pretty strong and undeniable, although not convicted in a court of law. And obviously Hillary has ignored all of those accusations, so apparently those people are invisible to Hillary. I thought it was an excellent point by the caller to the Hannity show. I heard the call when it came in.

I don't think that Clinton ever raped anyone. It is just that he had a problem: the blood would periodically drain from his brain.

Hill explained it very simply: she loves the guy.

Frankly, I could care less about an official's personal life. It is his performance in office that counts. And only you, and a few others who wear blinders, could defend Bush's performance.

I do have a pet peeve about those in the mass media who lie. I feel that they hold a sacred trust to be truthful to the millions in their audiences. Hannity is a very big liar, and should be drummed out of the field.

Hannity won't lose his job because of his lies. He has a very large following of conservatives who believe most everything he says, and it gets repeated here like they're the "truth."

It seems that conservatives like the big lie. I get a fair amount of hoax e-mails (per snopes), and virtually all of it is anti-liberal. That tells you something.

And then there's this.


February 13, 2007
16 WORDS....Remember the "16 words" in the 2003 State of the Union address? About how Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa? In the Scooter Libby trial today, the defense played a tape recording of a Bob Woodward interview with Richard Armitage and the subject came up. Here's what Armitage said:

Armitage: We're clean as a [expletive] whistle. And George [Tenet] personally got it out of the Cincinnati speech of the president.

....Woodward: It was taken out?

Armitage: Taken out. George said you can't do this.

Woodward: How come it wasn't taken out of the State of the Union then?

Armitage: Because I think it was overruled by the types down at the White House. Condi doesn't like being in the hot spot. But she--

So that's Armitage's take: the director of the CIA tried to get the uranium nonsense taken out of the State of the Union but Condoleezza Rice didn't have the backbone to stand up to the hardliners in the White House and get it excised. Chemical and biological WMD just wasn't enough. They wanted everyone to think Saddam was working on nukes too. Evidence to the contrary simply didn't matter.

?-Kevin Drum 1:09 AM Permalink |

You mean like this...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20226462/site/newsweek/page/0/



Or when NBC rigged a GM pickup to explode...

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/LIE/nbc.html

Or when Dan Rather knowingly used forged documents to attempt to smear Bush?

Where is your outrage for these events?

Advocate, when you can come up with an actual lie of Hannity's, wherein he tells blatant lies, then let us know here. So far, you are batting zero.

The real story behind the big lie is that liberals were preaching Hussein and WMD long before Bush even got to Washington, so your so-called "big lie" is nothing more than political spin, thats all.

As Mysteryman points out, so-called news organizations can tell as many lies as they want as long as they are in your favor and you obviously don't care. To this day, the person behind Rather's fictional program just before the election goes free, apparently nobody cared, and doing such things in an effort to alter a federal election is a serious crime in case you haven't heard. But who cares. Apparently nobody does. Nobody pursued this obvious crime. Liberals didn't because they don't care to, and conservatives are not because they might offend someone.

And for the millionth time, the administration never claimed Hussein had purchased uranium from Niger, only that he was attempting to set up a deal, which to this day has never been proven wrong, and in fact the intelligence still points to the fact that Hussein had sought to procure uranium. Your side continues to lie about this point and obfuscate the truth about this, as did Joseph Wilson of course. And to this day, some think Hussein may have even thought he had a nuclear program further along than it was, except his scientists may not have told him everything for fear of being killed. To this day, do we really know what was going on in Iraq with WMD? I don't think so.

Is there any need to point out the irony here?

MM, I am outraged that the the right's swift-boaters basically ruined a great broadcaster, Dan Rather. Rather did not lie as claimed by the scummy right, but was misled by forged documents.

As CI showed above, the CIA essentially demanded that the yellowcake stuff be removed from the SOU. Thus, Bush was not somehow led astray by the intell in making the false statement.

The only thing problematic in CI's statement is the inclusion of parados. The latter's posts are dead-on.

Advocate, That was addressed to "parados." Thus his name.

So,since he was "misled",he can be excused from using those forged documents?

Sorry,that doesnt wash.
He believed what he was told,just like Bush.
So,either both of them were wrong or neither was.

You cant have it both ways.

There is a big difference. Bush was told by the CIA that the proposed statement was false, and should be removed. Moreover, Bush received intell on a number of items, such as the nonnuke cylinders, but Bush still disgorged the false information. Bush has a long history of lying.

No intell agency, or other entity, warned Rather not to rely on the forged material. Further, no one can show that Rather lied in the past.

Dan Rather ruined his own reputation. Nobody needed to help him, advocate. Rather had been peddling his nonsense for years. The forged documents were hardly the first example of that. I tend to think it was born out of arrogance and naivity more than lies however, but I don't know for sure, as it seems like he would have awakened to a few clues along the way.

In contrast, as much as the left has attempted to spin and destroy George Bush, he still has his respect and reputation. You may not agree with him, but you cannot destroy his reputation. Lest you confuse reputation and respect with popularity, I would remind you there is a difference.

Ofcoarse, Bush has never made a fool of himself either by mangling the English language or telling lies. He can never destroy himself, because he follows god's instructions.

I have to wonder how much of the Bush "act" concerning his speaking ability and his intelligence (or lack thereof) is actually cultivated by him.

After all,he has defeated the dems on every turn.
He has been elected governor of Tx,he has been elected President twice.
He has forced the dems to cave on just about every issue,including his "illegal" wiretapping that the congress just gave him the power to do.

He seems to have outmaneuvered the dems on almost every issue,yet the left continues to call him stupid.

Tell me,if he is stupid,yet he keeps outmaneuvering the dems,how stupid does that make the dems?

mm, Yes, Bush out-maneuvered the GOP right out of office, and has succeeded in one of the lowest presidential ratings in history. Yeah, real smart. We want him to keep at it until he completely destroys the republican party. He still has time; about 15 more months.

Bush got his tax cuts...the dems opposed them
Bush got the changes to FISA that supports his wiretapping,the dems opposed that.

Bush got elected twice,the dems opposed him.
Bush got conservative judges on the USSC,the dems opposed them.

Those are just 4 examples,there are more.
Yet you call him "dumb".
Tell me,how dumb are the dems and the left,if he keeps beating them?

Bush is dumb; he can't even speak the English language properly, and he's our president. Most people are embarrassed - except ignoramuses like you!.

As for supporting "Bush is dumb," there are many web sites to prove it.
Happy hunting.

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About Poll
What's the dumbest thing President Bush has ever said?
'My answer is bring them on.' ?-on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces
'Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.'
'Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country.'
'There's an old saying in Tennessee ?- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ?- that says, fool me once, shame on ?- shame on you. Fool me ?- you can't get fooled again.'
'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'


Current Results


25. "I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe ?- I believe what I believe is right." ?-Rome, Italy, July 22, 2001

24. "We need to counter the shockwave of the evildoer by having individual rate cuts accelerated and by thinking about tax rebates." ?-Washington, D.C. Oct. 4, 2001

23. "People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." ?-Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

22. "I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it…I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet….I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't ?- you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." ?-President George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

21. "The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." ?-explaining why high taxes on the rich are a failed strategy, Annandale, Va., Aug. 9, 2004

20. "My plan reduces the national debt, and fast. So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire." ?-radio address, Feb. 24, 2001

19. "You know, when I was one time campaigning in Chicago, a reporter said, 'Would you ever have a deficit?' I said, 'I can't imagine it, but there would be one if we had a war, or a national emergency, or a recession.' Never did I dream we'd get the trifecta." ?-Houston, Texas, June 14, 2002 (There is no evidence Bush ever made any such statement, despite recounting the trifecta line repeatedly in 2002. A search by the Washington Post revealed that the three caveats were brought up before the 2000 campaign ?- by Al Gore.)

18. "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." ?-Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

17. "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." ?-State of the Union Address, Jan. 28, 2003, making a claim that administration officials knew at the time to be false

16. "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard." ?-repeating the phrases "hard work," "working hard," "hard choices," and other "hard"-based verbiage 22 times in his first debate with Sen. John Kerry

15. "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." ?-Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

14. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." ?-Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

13. "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." ?-summing up his first year in office, three months after the 9/11 attacks, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

12. "I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency." ?-interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002

11. "Can we win? I don't think you can win it." ?-after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004

10. "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." ?-Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002

9. "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." ?-to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004

8. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." ?-speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003

7. "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories … And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." ?-Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003

6. "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" ?-President George W. Bush, joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004

5. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." ?-Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000

4. "There's an old saying in Tennessee ?- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ?- that says, fool me once, shame on ?- shame on you. Fool me ?- you can't get fooled again." ?-Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video)

3. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." ?-Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video)

2. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ?-Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video)

1. "My answer is bring them on." ?-on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003
~Compiled by Daniel Kurtzman