Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

mysteryman wrote:

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

Yesterday, we were presented with a perfect example of what should be done.

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

Perhaps you better look up the defination of "criminal", mm.

mysteryman wrote:

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Perhaps you better look up the defination of "criminal", mm.

mysteryman wrote:

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

Since you dont seem to understand what I meant by criminal,here is a whole page of definitions for you to peruse at your leisure...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/criminal

Now,since Libby was convicted of the CRIMINAL act of lying to the prosecutor AND the grand jury,should all politicians that have done the same thing be prosecuted and if convicted be sentenced to jail?

No matter how small a lie it was?

mysteryman wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Perhaps you better look up the defination of "criminal", mm.

mysteryman wrote:

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

Since you dont seem to understand what I meant by criminal,here is a whole page of definitions for you to peruse at your leisure...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/criminal

Now,since Libby was convicted of the CRIMINAL act of lying to the prosecutor AND the grand jury,should all politicians that have done the same thing be prosecuted and if convicted be sentenced to jail?

No matter how small a lie it was?

The Federal prosecutor has the discretion to decide which cases deserve attention and which do not. None of the prosecutors in question in this case were Dems, by the way; so there's really no reason to throw around 'political witch hunt' accusations.

Your question posits a black/white view of the law, which doesn't exist. For example, should all those who break the speed limit be ticketed, even if it's just 1 or 2 miles over? Of course not. It's a discretion thing.

Cycloptichorn

Obstruction of justice was no little thing. I think there's more heads to roll before this is over. The obstruction finding will open doors to exactly what was obstructed. A vast White House conspiracy to out a covert CIA who played a great and important role in national security. Certainly the jury wondered where's Rove and Cheney? We may see them under oath on tv yet.

ehBeth wrote:

okie wrote:

then what are we poor serfs supposed to conclude about this?

one of the things that will hopefully, eventually be learned is that lying by people in the White House is not acceptable. For any reason.

So its no longer acceptable to lie about sex,or to lie about billing records,or to lie about stealing papers from the national archives,or to lie about tape recordings,or to lie about travel office employees,or to lie about someones name being leaked,or to lie about making money on the futures market,or to lie about anything else politicians lie about?

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

blueflame1 wrote:

Obstruction of justice was no little thing. I think there's more heads to roll before this is over. The obstruction finding will open doors to exactly what was obstructed. A vast White House conspiracy to out a covert CIA who played a great and important role in national security. Certainly the jury wondered where's Rove and Cheney? We may see them under oath on tv yet.

Should EVERY politician accused and convicted of obstruction of justice,no matter how small,be sent to prison?

mysteryman wrote:

ehBeth wrote:

okie wrote:

then what are we poor serfs supposed to conclude about this?

one of the things that will hopefully, eventually be learned is that lying by people in the White House is not acceptable. For any reason.

So its no longer acceptable to lie about sex,or to lie about billing records,or to lie about stealing papers from the national archives,or to lie about tape recordings,or to lie about travel office employees,or to lie about someones name being leaked,or to lie about making money on the futures market,or to lie about anything else politicians lie about?

Tell me,what should be done with politicians that lie,especially when those lies are criminal?

MM, please be fair. People went to jail over the billing records and the stolen papers. What were the lies about tape recordings and the travel- office matter (I know of none)? There was no proven lie about the futures thing. Libby perjured himself before a grand jury and got convicted for this. Are you not glad about this? You should be.

Since you dont seem to understand what I meant by criminal,here is a whole page of definitions for you to peruse at your leisure...

mysteryman wrote:

Since you dont seem to understand what I meant by criminal,here is a whole page of definitions for you to peruse at your leisure...

Well, it seems your academic credentials in law are better than mine.

However, I use for legal definitions ... law sources.
Seems to be different to what you were taught at your law school.

So its no longer acceptable to lie about sex,or to lie about billing records,or to lie about stealing papers from the national archives,or to lie about tape recordings,or to lie about travel office employees,or to lie about someones name being leaked,or to lie about making money on the futures market,or to lie about anything else politicians lie about?