ABORTION.......

Frank Apisa wrote:

I think the decision to abort or not to abort should be the woman's alone...and I do not think her decision not to abort should give the guy freedom from the responsibility the law places on the father of a child.

Thanks for your response Frank.

Your response surprises me a little because it seems somewhat inconsistent with your position...something you're usually not. I thought you would go the other way on that.

What did you think of Scott Peterson being charged with a double murder ? His wife and the fetus.

In your estimation should that law be changed ?

I am not sure of what you see as "inconsistent"...but I am willing to discuss that issue if you would like to go further with it.

Frank Apisa wrote:

I am not sure of what you see as "inconsistent"...but I am willing to discuss that issue if you would like to go further with it.

The inconsistency that I refer to is that you willingly give the woman a choice (to abort/not to abort).

But the male gets no such choice(whether he wants to abort or not) but is potentially burdened with a responsibility he may not choose.

But the reason I feel that a woman should have a choice to abort or not to abort...is because the pregnancy is occurring in her body. It is, in my opinion, her right to do so because she should have the right to make decisions about her body...and whether or not it should continue to be the host to a pregnancy.

That is the choice.

The "father" does not have the pregnancy going on in his body."

I am not willing to have the male decide whether or not the woman should continue a pregnancy or not...anymore than I would be willing to leave that choice up to the state..

Yes, it is his money, shouldn't he get to choose wether or not he will the support child or not? If the woman gets a choice, then the only logical option would be to give the man the choice as well.

American society doesn't care if the littlest people get smashed....look at the way we solve our problems, abortion, pills, get rich quick schemes, etc. It is a dangerous trend that in the end will not be healthy for America.

I'm with you momma angel, people might learn to make better decisions if the consequences can't be erased so easily.

Frank Apisa wrote:

But the reason I feel that a woman should have a choice to abort or not to abort...is because the pregnancy is occurring in her body. It is, in my opinion, her right to do so because she should have the right to make decisions about her body...and whether or not it should continue to be the host to a pregnancy.

That is the choice.

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The "father" does not have the pregnancy going on in his body."

That's fine and very clear.

Good!

Frank Apisa wrote:

I am not willing to have the male decide whether or not the woman should continue a pregnancy or not...anymore than I would be willing to leave that choice up to the state..

Ok. But why not also give the man the CHOICE to financially walk away if he so desires? That's the part I find inconsistent. The woman gets to choose because it's her body, I understand.

But why doesn't the man get a CHOICE to be financially responsible or not ?

The reason I think a woman has a choice is because it is her body that is being used as a host.

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The reason I think a woman has a choice is because it is her body that is being used as a host.

But that raises the question, if something goes on in my house, does the constitution have any say over it? And the answer is yes.

I was just trying to use your logic and apply it to other things that are in my possesion....my body, my house, my property, etc. Does the law apply in the bounds of my possesions, was my question. Ex) If I murder someone, in my house, then does it count as murder?

....yes

Do they have to kill the fetus, to remove it, yes. I'm just wondering how that doesn't constitute as murder.

How do you think that it is anything but a human? Humans are not based on how many cells they have, and if they were, how many cells would constitute a human? Enough to make them look "normal"?

It hardly resembles anything we think of as "human", if that's what you mean. I think our issue is...what is a human? You can take away a man's arm, his leg, etc., but when is he no longer human?

And my question is.....what is it then? What is a fetus? And...is it living?