Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 03:52 am
Momma Angel wrote:
Now! That's what I am talking about! That's what I call saving the children!

I am voting for this one!


Yeah...you would.

And that is another reason why I will fight this cancer pretending to be a religion...because I don't want this kind of nonsense infecting this country or this world.
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 04:13 am
Frank Apisa wrote:


I don't know for sure whose fault it is...but even if it were the woman's fault...my answer stands. Your question was: Should the woman be held legally responsible....?

NO!

If she is an idiot and uses drugs, alcohol and such...that is unfortunate. But I don't want the government deciding that she should be put in jail for that.

Not sure why you have trouble with that answer...but do continue.


And yet the child gets the life sentence for the choice of the mother.

If it were enforcable to any degree I'd like to see a mother like that prosecuted. In my book they are the equivalent of reckless and drunk drivers.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 04:17 am
CerealKiller wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:


I don't know for sure whose fault it is...but even if it were the woman's fault...my answer stands. Your question was: Should the woman be held legally responsible....?

NO!

If she is an idiot and uses drugs, alcohol and such...that is unfortunate. But I don't want the government deciding that she should be put in jail for that.

Not sure why you have trouble with that answer...but do continue.


And yet the child gets the life sentence for the choice of the mother.

If it were enforcable to any degree I'd like to see a mother like that prosecuted. In my book they are the equivalent of reckless and drunk drivers.


You are entitled to your opinion.

You asked for mine...and I gave it.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 06:45 am
CerealKiller,

I am with you on that point. It is at the very least, reckless endangerment. I am just amazed at the lack of respect for human life that Frank seems to have.

Perhaps if there were more consequences for acts such as these, there would be some deterrent for this.

There have been cases where there have been injunctions put in place (by the courts) to mandate a woman was to not drink alcohol during her pregnancy. The suit was brought about by a husband who was married to an alcoholic and he wanted his child safe. She had already had one child born with fetal alcohol syndrome and had given that child up for adoption.

And, in my opinion, if someone puts the life of a child in danger, then the law must be brought in to protect that child.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:01 am
Frank: When does it become "not okay" to kill the baby? When the head pops out of the womb? When the entire body clears the passageway? When the cord is severed? Surely there is a line of demarcation for you?
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:38 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Frank: When does it become "not okay" to kill the baby? When the head pops out of the womb? When the entire body clears the passageway? When the cord is severed? Surely there is a line of demarcation for you?
Well, Tico, the answer is obvious:
Just hold off on calling it a baby until the time most convenient for you.
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CerealKiller
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:47 am
neologist wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Frank: When does it become "not okay" to kill the baby? When the head pops out of the womb? When the entire body clears the passageway? When the cord is severed? Surely there is a line of demarcation for you?
Well, Tico, the answer is obvious:
Just hold off on calling it a baby until the time most convenient for you.


He was very clear. He calls it a baby at birth.

It ain't apisa till it's out of the oven. Very Happy
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:49 am
neologist wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
Frank: When does it become "not okay" to kill the baby? When the head pops out of the womb? When the entire body clears the passageway? When the cord is severed? Surely there is a line of demarcation for you?
Well, Tico, the answer is obvious:
Just hold off on calling it a baby until the time most convenient for you.

That makes it easy.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 10:02 am
Just don't stop calling me a man when I show signs of Alzheimers.

You can't kill a human; but a geezer - that's different! Laughing
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 10:07 am
If that rule holds true, Frank does indeed have cause for concern. Laughing
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 10:19 am
Death by definition. How sad! Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 10:44 am
Not apisa until it's out of the oven! Laughing That's a good one!
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:02 am
HEHEHEHEHEHEHE
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mesquite
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:48 am
Why do those of you that have a belief in the afterlife, so desperately cling to this one?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:53 am
Mesquite,

I can only speak for myself. God's gift to me is my life. My gift to God is what I do with that life. We are born with the instinct for survival. It's not that I want to leave this life, it's I want to make this life the best I can until I get where I am going.

Momma Angel
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 11:58 am
I'll wait until someone here says something worthy of a reply...and then do so.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:02 pm
Well, I must say, that was pretty predictable.
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Child of the Light
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:04 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
I'll wait until someone here says something worthy of a reply...and then do so.


Did you ever tell us what you think of partial birth abortion?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:06 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Well, I must say, that was pretty predictable.


As is almost everything you write, MA.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 12:07 pm
Child of the Light wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
I'll wait until someone here says something worthy of a reply...and then do so.


Did you ever tell us what you think of partial birth abortion?


Yes.
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