Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 12:21 am
real life wrote:
Why don't you actually address what I said?
Don't you think it more apropos to redress what you said?
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 12:24 am
Doktor S wrote:
RL,
How many unwanted babies have you adopted that could not be cared for by the mother, whom didn't believe in abortion either and hence had it and put it into the system?
If the answer is 'none', you could be construed as rather hipocritical
DS,

Adoption specialists will tell you that there is a larger supply of willing adoptive parents than there is babies waiting to be adopted.

Couples usually endure long waiting periods, years in many cases, due to this.

How many poor people have you provided a job for?

How many sick people have you paid doctor's bills for?

How many families without transportation have you bought a car for?

If you say none, does that mean you are an uncaring hypocrite?

Your pretense to logic and transparent grasping for moral high ground when your own moral code is rooted in selfishness and deification of self is just too ridiculous.
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real life
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 12:27 am
Chumly wrote:
real life wrote:
Why don't you actually address what I said?
Don't you think it more apropos to redress what you said?


No, I don't. Since you are absolutely unable to answer it, then obviously I stated it correctly.

Real Life wrote:
Which babies are causing the planetary warming on Mars, where the polar icecaps are melting as well?

Maybe this has something to do with the sun, and not much to do with us.

Nahh. Too logical.


Still looks good to me.

Give it your best shot.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 06:32 am
Earl wrote-

Quote:
Mozart had several children die soon after birth because he refused them to be allowed milk.


How do you know a thing like that?
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 06:39 am
You know, if you're really against abortion, you shouldn't tackle the act itself but the cause.

Rape's pretty difficult, but consensual conception of a child is far easier to target.

I suggest that sex ed classes from now on play this video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hm5EI4c-b4A&search=nintendo%20addiction

If that doesn't scare them into not having sex before thinking out the consequences, I don't know what will.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 06:55 am
Exactly Wolf.

It would be interesting and honest if we knew who on here has been connected to an abortion at the personal level.

And Earl-I could just as easy have said Shakespeare instead of Mozart or David Beckham or the man who broke the bank in Monte Carlo.Your jumping onto what you think about Mozart shows that you deliberately misunderstood the point in order to evade the issue.How about Alexander Fleming?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 07:02 am
Intrepid wrote:


Are you somehow saying that it is our Christian duty to abort babies?


It might not be the duty of Christians to abort babies...

...but if that religion actually is correct in its silly assumptions about how its god works...

...it might be one the most charitable, selfless thing a Christian could do.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 07:11 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:


Are you somehow saying that it is our Christian duty to abort babies?


It might not be the duty of Christians to abort babies...

...but if that religion actually is correct in its silly assumptions about how its god works...

...it might be one the most charitable, selfless thing a Christian could do.


Poppycock
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 07:19 am
Intrepid wrote-

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We are nowhere near overpopulation. Babies cause global warming?? Extinction? Wow.


I worked out,possibly incorrectly,that at the current rate of US oil consumption (20 million barrels daily) a baby will in an average lifespan consume 2,100 barrels of oil.If you multiply the number of abortions you have had by that number you will see that abortion is necessary for US survival given that media is sex mad and sexual success is portrayed as positively as it is and intimately linked to self esteem by slick media operatives who are,by sociological definition,deviant.

The Catholic Church is against abortion on moral grounds and common sense grounds but also because anybody who lives by its precepts doesn't need abortion except under very rare and refined circumstances.

Abortion results from casual shagging so anybody who lends support to casual shagging is a contributor to the utterly ridiculous abortion statistics and to the dehumanising of women.And anybody who proselytizes that abortion is acceptable also contributes.

It is quite obvious that women sense the dehumanisation of abortion from the secretive methods by which they seek abortion and their keeping very quiet about it afterwards.But it is no secret to them and they can't keep quiet about it to themselves.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 07:20 am
Intrepid wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:


Are you somehow saying that it is our Christian duty to abort babies?


It might not be the duty of Christians to abort babies...

...but if that religion actually is correct in its silly assumptions about how its god works...

...it might be one the most charitable, selfless thing a Christian could do.


Poppycock


Not "poppycock" at all.

Even your St. Paul suggested that he would be (might be) willing to give up "salvation" of his "immortal soul" in order to "save" the souls of others.

You only call it "poppycock" because you don't want to acknowledge the implications of this silly religion...and this babaric god.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 07:37 am
I hereby acknowledge the silliness of the previous post.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 08:07 am
spendius wrote:
I hereby acknowledge the silliness of the previous post.


You are a silly person, Spendius.

You take up space in the threads without ever saying anything of worth.

What I said is logical...and is anything but silly.

Sad...would be a better word for what it is....logical, but terribly sad.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 09:06 am
Quote:
Even your St. Paul suggested that he would be (might be) willing to give up "salvation" of his "immortal soul" in order to "save" the souls of others.


That is meaningless for a start.People suggest all sorts of things that they don't mean and nobody is in any position to give up salvation or to explain what an immortal soul is or to save other souls even if they say they can explain what a soul is.You don't even know whether a person called St Paul ever existed and you are relying on the credibilty of The Bible and The Church for your evidence that he did and that he suggested that he might do what you say he suggested he might do and I understood you thought both The Bible and The Church to be complete rubbish.

Quote:
You only call it "poppycock" because you don't want to acknowledge the implications of this silly religion...and this babaric god.


That relies in its entirety on your idea of silly being actually silly and your idea of barbaric being actually barbaric and the God you say is barbaric you don't think exists or you don't know if he exists.

I don't think that is silly at all.It is objectively silly.What I think has nothing to do with it.

Quote:
You are a silly person, Spendius.


That is passing off a personal prejudiced opinion as a fact which is only not silly in girl's junior schools.

Quote:
You take up space in the threads without ever saying anything of worth.


Ditto and amply contradicted by the viewing figures on the Intelligent Design thread on which I am a mainstay and the compliments I get on the Trivia threads from ladies who don't have a swarm of bees buzzing around their heads.

Quote:
What I said is logical...and is anything but silly.


See above for demo of what you said being as silly as silly gets.

Quote:
Sad...would be a better word for what it is....logical, but terribly sad.


"It" in this context must refer to the last object mentioned to prevent it from being manipulated to refer to anything previously mentioned anywhere.
And once again,as is usual,your prejudiced opinion of what is sad is presented as a fact.

All in all the barrel scrapings of the uttermost silliness.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 09:52 am
spendius wrote:
Quote:
Even your St. Paul suggested that he would be (might be) willing to give up "salvation" of his "immortal soul" in order to "save" the souls of others.


That is meaningless for a start.People suggest all sorts of things that they don't mean and nobody is in any position to give up salvation or to explain what an immortal soul is or to save other souls even if they say they can explain what a soul is.You don't even know whether a person called St Paul ever existed and you are relying on the credibilty of The Bible and The Church for your evidence that he did and that he suggested that he might do what you say he suggested he might do and I understood you thought both The Bible and The Church to be complete rubbish.

Quote:
You only call it "poppycock" because you don't want to acknowledge the implications of this silly religion...and this babaric god.


That relies in its entirety on your idea of silly being actually silly and your idea of barbaric being actually barbaric and the God you say is barbaric you don't think exists or you don't know if he exists.

I don't think that is silly at all.It is objectively silly.What I think has nothing to do with it.

Quote:
You are a silly person, Spendius.


That is passing off a personal prejudiced opinion as a fact which is only not silly in girl's junior schools.

Quote:
You take up space in the threads without ever saying anything of worth.


Ditto and amply contradicted by the viewing figures on the Intelligent Design thread on which I am a mainstay and the compliments I get on the Trivia threads from ladies who don't have a swarm of bees buzzing around their heads.

Quote:
What I said is logical...and is anything but silly.


See above for demo of what you said being as silly as silly gets.

Quote:
Sad...would be a better word for what it is....logical, but terribly sad.


"It" in this context must refer to the last object mentioned to prevent it from being manipulated to refer to anything previously mentioned anywhere.
And once again,as is usual,your prejudiced opinion of what is sad is presented as a fact.

All in all the barrel scrapings of the uttermost silliness.


Well...you certainly got your little girly panties in an uproar, didn't you, Spendius.

You are such a laughable twerp, I'll just get a laugh out of this...a huge laugh...and leave it lie.

You are an enjoyable little twerp...I'll give ya that.

Twisted Evil
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 10:16 am
Frank wrote-

Quote:
You are an enjoyable little twerp...I'll give ya that.


That's the main thing.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 11:09 am
spendius wrote:
Frank wrote-

Quote:
You are an enjoyable little twerp...I'll give ya that.


That's the main thing.


Yes...in the end...it is, Spendius.

I hope some day to get back to England and meet you in a pub and guzzle a bit of ale with you...maybe throw some darts. (At the board, of course.)

Of course, if you are ever going to meet up with Lola...you are going to have to come here and join us at one of the pubs we frequent.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 11:13 am
[quote]...it might be one the most charitable, selfless thing a Christian could do. [/quote]

This has got to be, by far, the saddest rationalization for abortion I have ever seen. Yes, it's been stated before but I let it go. Not now.

I guess if this innocent soul of this baby would immediately go to heaven it's okay to kill it?

I guess if I or any other person that believes we are going to heaven when we die, it ought to be okay to kill us also? I mean, isn't that the charitable thing to do?

Using one's religious beliefs to kill? Hmmmm. This is something I have heard many non-religious have said happens.

I didn't realize that they were using MY religious beliefs as THEIR excuse forto do it! Shocked
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 12:59 pm
Re: ABORTION.......
PoetSeductress wrote:
RexRed wrote:
real life wrote:
RexRed wrote:
More babies = more overpopulation = more global warming = extinction


Which babies are causing the planetary warming on Mars, where the polar icecaps are melting as well?

Maybe this has something to do with the sun, and not much to do with us.

Nahh. Too logical.



Maybe maybe not...

Let alone the impact we are having on the earth.

We could at least not hasten the process and put more effort into research and development into natural ways to balance the earth with expanding the rain forests etc...

I am tending to believe that it is a christians duty to protect and be a wise steward of the earth. Not senselessly overpopulate and plunder.

I think the bill of rights needs to be extended to include the earth and in time we will see a new bill of rights written to reflect this idea...


There is absolutely no connection between the immorality of contraceptive abortion, and the condition of the earth. You're dots are getting skewed. Come back to Earth, RR.


If humans aren't polluting the earth then who is?

2/3 of the gulf of Mexico is a dead zone from the American Beef industries run off through the mississippi river..

This is to name only one of the blemishes that human population has left on the earth...

I am back to this earth and I don't like what I see...

If we don't double the American population who is going to pay for the baby boomers? Answer: THE EARTH

This is the plan, abolish abortion double the population to fix medicare...

Then we will have more people paying in than taking out...

Can't you see this?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 01:24 pm
real life wrote:
Adoption specialists will tell you that there is a larger supply of willing adoptive parents than there is babies waiting to be adopted.
These so-called adoption specialists you refer to could not be very well informed of the millions of children starving to death in third world countries. Why don't you sponsor a few families to come on over and share your Christian largess?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Tue 7 Mar, 2006 01:40 pm
Chumly wrote:
real life wrote:
Why don't you actually address what I said?
Don't you think it more apropos to redress what you said?
real life wrote:
No, I don't.
I do, given the context my response is on point.
real life wrote:
Since you are absolutely unable to answer it, then obviously I stated it correctly.
Given the context, my answer has definitive meaning. What do you claim you stated correctly?
Real Life wrote:
Which babies are causing the planetary warming on Mars, where the polar icecaps are melting as well?
Your question imputes a series of assumptions which have dubious relevance to the case at hand. I challenge you to explain the relevance of your question to the case at hand. Also the second half of your question is rather peculiar and ill defined. Are you asking where the polar ice caps are on earth or mars? Are you asking if babies are melting them? Are you asking if the polar ice caps on mars or earth are melting from babies?
real life wrote:
Maybe this has something to do with the sun, and not much to do with us.
Is this a question or an assertion?
real life wrote:
Nahh. Too logical.
What is "too logical"? Define your logic.
real life wrote:
Still looks good to me.
What exactly looks good to you?
real life wrote:
Give it your best shot.
Give what exactly "your best shot"?
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