This is Biden's America

Would you prefer that we invade Cuba?

Yes. They were peaceful. And I doubt that you can prove intent to harm Mr. Pence.

How was any of that "peaceful"? I don't know about you, but to me, "peaceful" is void of any angst, violence, mayhem, disorder and ill-intentions.

Smashing through windows, trespassing, shouting they wanted to lynch someone, destroying government property .... is not "peaceful".

It's destructive and angry and more.

The people who did the things that you listed did not harm anyone.

Trespassing, breaking windows, and yelling are common with protesters.

okay.... roger that and over and out... (shaking her head at that ridiculous justification)...

Annie C TulipHigh-heeled shoe
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We have officially been asked to change from scrubs when exiting the hospital tonight, and to be escorted by security…same upon return. The lunacy escalates.

I believe the war might have raged on another four+ year but for Trump's agreements to withdraw our troops. This apparently caused the troops "on our side" to cut deals to simply give up. Whether or not Biden understood this point, he had little choice but to complete Trump's withdrawal or else renew the effort and ramp it up again. I take Biden's side in this, in general. But I don't trust the overall thrust of his foreign policy. Doubling down on sanctions, not honoring the Iran deal that the last president trashed. In Latin America, he is still the imperialist for sure.

It is rather amusing that Oralloy takes this stand on people destroying windows and climbing through...with 5 deaths in total...and such action and threats by a group of people- calling them peaceful protestors

Even while he openly advocates that if black people or minorities just menace white people (or even if the white people just feel threatened), that white people should shoot them (and refuses to just say the non racist version when called on this- people have the right to defend themselves). And yes Oralloy, you know I can quote you saying these things.

...but with Harvard qualified, bird watching Christian Cooper, who only said to Amy Cooper 'you won't like the outcome', then offered her dog a treat (but did do any violent act, and remained and behaved very calm and constantly asked her not to come near him), he calls Christian Cooper:
- violent
- a thug
- a rapist
- a murderer
- an axe murderer
- who should be shot and buried

Based on only the above information, I doubt anyone unfamiliar with the Coopers incident would need to guess what colour Christian Cooper was.

Biden increases food stamps 25%. I forgot to check if that offsets or more than offsets Trump's cuts.

Oh? I'm waiting to see if it offsets the inflation from the rest of his spending spree.

He's spending. But not blowing trillions in the way Trump did.

Ever since Reagan's time Republicans have spent money like drunken sailors when in control of the government. Then, when Democrats want to buy things they complain of the deficit and say How ya gonna pay for it? This strategy almost always worked, but this time Biden seems to be breaking the pattern at least a bit.

How did he blow trillions? I'm not uptodate on everything that moron did.

One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.
https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

That article alone shows he spent more than anybody.

I'm going to pm you and pick your brain

Chris Richards 🐬🖖🏻 #ClassWarNotColdWar
@EclecticRadical
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The biggest obstacle to building a serious progressive movement in this country is that a bunch of politicians and pundits with no credibility think they’re already leading one.

Vikorr likes to follow me around and spread lies about me.

Needless to say, "I" am an off topic subject in Edgar's thread.

Edgar has already expressed a desire that such personal disputes not get his thread locked, so I'm just going to say that all of Vikorr's accusations against me are lies and leave it at that.

The war was not raging. "Ramping it back up" would have just meant continuing to train the Afghanis to fight for themselves like they had been doing for years.



Joe Biden has been more than willing to return to the deal. It is Iran who has been refusing to return to the deal.



We are not doing anything at all to Latin America.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/17/lawmakers-immunity-police-reform-talks-505671

That's a shame. Almost no one (on either side) seems to understand what qualified immunity even is. But it is a bad idea that should be ended.

From what I understand of Qualified Immunity, I would have to agree that it is a bad idea that it be ended. By the very nature:
- the volume of law
- the specificity of law
- dealing with volatile people (whether violent, armed, mentally ill, drug affected etc)
- in hazardous situations (on the side of the road, in other peoples homes <think kitchen knives>, in the dark, on construction sites etc)
...things will go wrong.

For the law, there's a reason lawyers specialise. There's a reason most of them will do legal research on a case, etc. Or from another viewpoint - anyone who has tried to memorise word for word a book, will know the difficulties associated with laws - and for law, often every word of a law has meaning.

That is to say - I don't think any sane person would want to be a police officer without protection from civil suits. There is a corresponding downside as I understand it (in holding police to account), but openning officers to civil suits to me, would result in an even worse situation - the ones smart enough to understand the repercussions will no longer want to be police (ie. the IQ / Common Sense level of police would fall significantly, resulting in even worse interactions)

Solutions have to be positive in the long term. Short term solutions that worsen the situation long term are counter-productive.