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What caused the 2020 brushfires and the 2021 Aussie floodings?

 
 
Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 04:14 pm
Hi. I am just curious about this. I remember in 2020 brushfires in Australia were a big issue. This year flooding is a big issue in Australia now.

What caused these disasters? I was told these WEREN'T natural disasters - these were caused by some political rabble rousers in Australia. If they are the culprits then WHY did they cause them? Why did they go around committing acts of vandalism?

Please help. Thank you.
 
vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 05:22 pm
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
What caused the 2020 brushfires and the 2021 Aussie floodings


Weather

If you want to be more specific:
- lots of water; and
- bushes catching fire
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 05:37 pm
@vikorr,
I was told they were caused by vandals. Who are these vandals?
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 06:14 pm
@JGoldman10,
From Wikipedia (why could you not search this yourself?)
Quote:
Lightning was the major cause of ignition of fires during the 2019–20 fire crisis in NSW and Victoria.[395] The official NSW Bushfires Inquiry ((with advice from the NSW Rural Fire Service) concluded "Lightning, often in remote areas, started most of the bush fires that became very large, damaging and hard to suppress."[397]

The NSW Bushfire Inquiry report found that, while thunderstorm activity was comparable to a normal year, lightning strikes were more likely to start a fire due to hot, dry conditions. Additionally, some fires became so large they generated Pyrocumulus clouds and dry lightning, sparking more blazes.

The Inquiry also noted a small percentage of fires started from human causes, (including powerlines, machinery and amateur back-burns on private rural properties) but that fires caused by suspected arson were a "very small proportion of the area burnt".[398]

Further, ABC News reported arson was of little impact – accounting for around 1% of NSW fires and 0.3% of Victorian fires by 18 January 2020.[395][396] The NSW Rural Fire Service referred numerous individuals to the NSW Police; 24 people were charged with arson, allegedly starting bushfires.[399][5][6][400] Queensland police reported that 114 out of 1,068 fires "were found to be deliberately or maliciously lit".[401]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Australian_bushfire_season
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 06:53 pm
@Rebelofnj,
Okay. There was nothing in Wikipedia to indicate that the brushfires and floodings came about by any kind of vandals. Apparently that was a rumor.

An Aussie I know from a certain chat site I frequent told me these disasters came about by Aussie political activists.
cherrie
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 08:13 pm
@JGoldman10,
They're called bushfires, not brushfires.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 09:02 pm
@cherrie,
They are the same thing.

From https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/wildfire.htm#:~:text=A%20wildfire%2C%20also%20known%20as,consume%20houses%20or%20agricultural%20resources. :

"A wildfire, also known as a forest fire, vegetation fire, grass fire, brush fire, or bushfire (in Australasia), is an uncontrolled fire often occurring in wildland areas, but which can also consume houses or agricultural resources."

And according to https://www.thefreedictionary.com/brushfire

"brush fire" is an alternate spelling of "brushfire".
cherrie
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 11:43 pm
@JGoldman10,
I realise that they're the same thing.

I was merely pointing out that in Australia they're called bushfires.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 03:03 am
@JGoldman10,
You could have looked that up yourself.

Two lessons here, don’t be so quick to believe some right wing idiot without checking things out first.

Try to be sensitive towards other cultures and their language. It may be called a brushfire in America, but we’re not talking about America we’re talking about Australia where bushfire is the correct term.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 07:26 pm
@izzythepush,
I'm not here to argue about language, linguistics and/or semantics with people.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 07:29 pm
@Rebelofnj,
I went on Snopes.com and Factcheck.org. I couldn't find anything on either site about any claims about the floods being caused by vandals, but the claims about the fires being caused by vandals that were made on both sites were FALSE.
cherrie
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 08:12 pm
@JGoldman10,
I'm really puzzled as to how you think vandals would cause floods. They are caused by very heavy rainfall in a short time that the rivers can't cope with. No one can make that happen.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sat 15 May, 2021 09:20 pm
@cherrie,
It's been said the natural disasters that struck certain countries, like Haiti for instance, were created through artificial means.

Who knows - maybe the floods in Australia could have created by some kind of machine.
cherrie
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 12:45 am
@JGoldman10,
Or maybe they were created by heavy rain in a short time that the rivers couldn't cope with.

You really need to stop reading and believing all these conspiracy theories.

JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 03:02 am
@cherrie,
Man-made disasters are a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_seismicity
https://rainbowintl.com/blog/natural-vs-man-made-floods
https://www.foxnews.com/story/out-there-man-made-hurricanes
https://wwf.panda.org/discover/knowledge_hub/teacher_resources/webfieldtrips/natural_disasters/floods/?

Notice I used the words "could have created".

From the third link:

"Scott Stevens, a meteorologist who for nine years has been forecasting the weather on KPVI-TV (search) in Pocatello, says the Yakuza — the Japanese mafia — is using a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to launch terrific storms against the U.S. mainland."

I am not making anything up.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 03:07 am
@cherrie,
I remember my mother said that she thought the quakes and hurricanes that hit Haiti over the last two decades could have been man-made.
cherrie
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 03:48 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:


I am not making anything up.



I know you're not making it up but you are believing all this nonsense.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 05:03 am
@JGoldman10,
How could earthquakes be man made?

How is it done?
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 06:09 am
@JGoldman10,
Why and how would someone create natural disasters to strike Haiti, of all places? Why not anywhere else with a higher or affluent population?

Is it hard to believe that natural disasters just happen without rhyme or reason?
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Linkat
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 01:13 pm
@cherrie,
cherrie wrote:

I'm really puzzled as to how you think vandals would cause floods. They are caused by very heavy rainfall in a short time that the rivers can't cope with. No one can make that happen.


Maybe if these vandals went around and turned on everyone's out door hoses
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