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How does one PROVE that SELF is an illusion?

 
 
htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 12:12 am
@Jasper10,
“One thing is sure....mainstream science is lost....why? because it has no understanding of consciousness types and doesn’t yet accept PRESENCE or SELF.
Mainstream science is a “prisoner of consciousness” and has no AWARENESS that this is case.”

Piggy agrees with your humble opinion very much.
Take a look at this another example of that “authentic” rabbit Dandan:
“Neutrinos are not their own anti-particles. Neutrinos are "left handed." That means that, no matter what inertial coordinate system we are in, we measure the spin to be +1/2. The anti-neutrino is right handed for all inertial coordinate systems.”
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/majorana-neutrino.15084/post-43572
“…Let's use a rotation in real space for simplicity. Say that we have a particle that is moving along the, say, +z axis and that the particle has a spin. Use your right hand "grab" the velocity vector (pointing in the +z direction) with your thumb in the direction of the velocity…”
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/majorana-neutrino.15084/post-43588

(Notice, any theory is just a method of description which tries to touch the elephant. Speculating the property of matter from the angle of external behavior is the third cancer in research of modern physics.)

In the new era, we can be AWARE and ask such a question: Neutrino and anti neutrino should be something PRESENCE in this cosmos? What’s the SELF?

And then take a look at the PRESENCE and SELF (spiral spring and its chirality):
 https://static.wixstatic.com/media/825b02_b6f3744f51a34f729d33c95c98f71b13~mv2.jpg
It’s STILL there. It’s the inherent property.
Left - handed is left- handed, right - handed is right- handed.
Of course there should be a neutral one without chirality too.

(If an elementary particle, the neutrino, is neutral, it should have no chirality, but it can oscillate between +, neutral, or - in specific physical environment. This is philosophy. Vivid analogy: piggy is powerless at all in this society and has no firm stance of his own. In front of the First Order, piggy will have to put up his hands (surrender) and becomes a half – self payment watchman or a drudge in conformity with their will / consciousness; but in front of Jasper10, piggy will have to research the PRESENCE and SELF in the new era of science.)
给他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁一个超文革赛阎王光荣称号快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 12:18 am
@Leadfoot,
What piggy meant the First Order is the local dark lords of the Jiangmen city (江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团). The major figures of the evil cabal is Mr. Zhong 钟永康 (former classmate of piggy in the Yaxi Middle School 崖西中学) as well as the who who (also former classmates of piggy) of the Class 914 of the No. 1 Middle School of Xinhui (新会一中九一四班).
Piggy always considers the tragedy originated from Mr. Zhong’s remarkable ambition: try every means to control piggy’s fate and must try to confine piggy in his small business as a half – self payment watchman to show up how glorious he is in the Jiangmen city. Piggy warned the local dark lord 钟永康of Jiangmencity in about 2019 that he can make a decent and comfortable living in CN with his remarkable social ability he just live in his own way.
Piggy thinks that “black hole effect” has formed. Piggy now can’t estimate what degree their power / social capacity has inflate to be.
Why a what coffin box from what CN appeared in PHF USA to denigrate piggy owed their mothers very much? And obviously that guy’s mission was to sabotage normal research in PHF.
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/the-game-of-match-sticks.16181/post-50071
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/the-game-of-match-sticks.16181/post-50090
What’s happening in the “authentic” community? What’s happening in human civilization?
In history, an outstanding “black hole effect” was created by Hitler. But even Hitler was not evil to such ultimate degree of denigrating Einstein owed his mother very much.
“Worry” or not, you people on the Earth think about it.
Piggy dies hard. No matter how piggy struggles, useless… “execute”.
And the story in the 22th century could be such: archaeologists speculate whether piggy really owe the mothers of the First Order very much.

Liqiang Chen
陈力强
May 28, 2021
给他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁一个超文革赛阎王光荣称号快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
Piggy hereby has a chat with the who who of the Class 914 of the No.1 Middle School of Xinhui (新会一中九一四班谁谁): you appreciate the social ability of the local dark lord 钟永康of Jiangmen city, you just cooperate with him to make money. Why you must use him to absolutely play piggy dead? Good idea it is? 我自横刀向天笑。哈哈
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 04:05 am
@htam9876,
Leadfoot cannot imagine life where piggy lives. Would probably hope for execution. Unfortunately, life in US getting more like piggy's. Long way to go but accelerating all the time, driven by dark energy.

Still, know that local leader is not truly in charge, neither is guy at top.
Leadfoot likes piggy's term - First Order. Good description of who actually is in charge.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 04:45 am
@htam9876,
Your statement below is interesting.....

…...If an elementary particle, the neutrino, is neutral, it should have no chirality, but it can oscillate between +, neutral, or - in specific physical environment. This is philosophy...……...

I have been arguing this point for a while now at the philosophical level and science (it would appear) has now proved it.

There are + AND - nihilists (+/- neutral).....that's all. There is no such thing as a TRUE nihilist!!!!! All nihilists have an opinion 0ne way or the other in HOPE not PROOF....All nihilist have to accept the 4 off logic output possibilities.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 05:00 am
@Jasper10,
Todays "out of date" nihilistic views are only based upon 0,1...1,0 logic possibility outputs....we know that this is incomplete philosophy now....
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 05:04 am
@Jasper10,
A re-think is required... big time...!!!!
htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 28 May, 2021 05:48 am
@Leadfoot,
Sounds that your president Linken 林肯and our Chairman 毛泽东 have to bow to the local dark lord of the Jiangmen city江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团. High five!
给他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁一个超文革赛阎王光荣称号快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
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htam9876
 
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Reply Sat 29 May, 2021 05:03 pm
@Jasper10,
Sometimes piggy would rather talk something in philosophy. Really.

We are not easy to twist the left handed spiral spring into a right handed one. Vise versa.

Next, do a simple experiment:
Make a circle with steel wire with a breach. We can twist (be gentle please) it to be left handed. When we open our hands, it will bounce back to a circle. We can also twist it to be right handed. When we open our hands, it will bounce back to a circle. Bungee bungee between +, neutral, or -. (Note: piggy doesn’t define left + while right -. Anti is just relative. Chirality is natural thing. Definition is man’s affair.)
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htam9876
 
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Reply Sat 29 May, 2021 05:04 pm
@Jasper10,
What's "big time" mean exactly in English?
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sun 30 May, 2021 12:13 am
@htam9876,
“Big time”... meaning.........”to a great degree”
htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 30 May, 2021 05:17 pm
@Jasper10,
“Great degree”? Yes, of course. Last “great degree” was created by Einstein about one century ago, I think.

PRESENCE and SELF have now provided a new angle / method to touch the elephant or say explore nature.

But unfortunately as you mentioned ahead “…mainstream science…doesn’t yet accept PRESENCE or SELF.”

…………………………………………………
Piggy expects that boys in the 21st century will separate into two groups:
The “authentic” group will keep on pursuing delicate and perfect mathematical model. Their route remains in the category of Mass Point Dynamics. Very “standard” consciousness.
The “eccentric” group will set out to explore a bit more physical meaning. They will become players in the category of PRESENCE and SELF.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sun 30 May, 2021 11:33 pm
@htam9876,
Well there are two types in philosophy..those being the PLAYER and the SPECTATOR....

The SPECTATOR is unable to influence the outcome of the game.

The PLAYER is able to influence the outcome of the game.

As discussed previously mainstream science is presently a SPECTATOR.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 31 May, 2021 12:54 am
@Jasper10,
“Authentic” / “Eccentric” will swap places of course...
Jasper10
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jun, 2021 01:48 am
@Jasper10,
What is interesting about adopting ALL 4 off logic output possibilities is that our established belief systems at the deeper level remain intact.

Science has two options MOVE on or be LEFT behind.
htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jun, 2021 01:37 pm
Now piggy doubts whether the pig head understands physics or not as the what coffin box from what CN said in PHF in 2020:
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/the-game-of-match-sticks.16181/post-50090
In fact, shortly after piggy left PHF in 2020, a local guy stopped piggy on the street and insisted he had a physics question to ask me. Piggy just replied to that guy: “I know nothing about physics”. Bounce…

No matter what piggy plans in what CN, it destined to fail. Why?
https://physicshelpforum.com/threads/the-game-of-match-sticks.16181/post-50071

Piggy never believes a normal Chinese would go to America to sabotage piggy’s normal research.
It’s not difficult to imagine how bad the situation ever is in the local place of what CN.
Piggy really doesn’t know when the First Order will decide to shout “execute”, then, piggy falls from the FULCRUM onto the ground, dead again.
 https://physicshelpforum.com/data/attachments/2/2105-9568f3094d7c72c457d5fe0cf9662b5a.jpg

Cabals ever win!
给他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁一个超文革赛阎王光荣称号快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
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htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jun, 2021 01:44 pm
@Jasper10,
“…When SELF experiences the "toggling"/bungee bungee.....is this toggling between the FULCRUM (STILL) and the end of the PENDULUM (MOVEMENT) ?? or is it a "toggling"/bungee bungee experienced by SELF who is hanging on sometimes desperately to the end of the PENDULUM as it swings backwards and forwards (ANXIETY) ??…..a "prisoner of consciousness types"??...”

A brief history of bungee bungee:
Piggy "toggling"/bungee bungee in Dandan’s Rabbitism over the past three years. At that time, piggy “hanging on sometimes desperately to the end of the PENDULUM as it swings backwards and forwards” (half of a “prisoner of consciousness types”), although at that time piggy has been AWARE of some flaws in “the theories”.
Until piggy encountered your PRESENCE – SELF philosophical principle in a2k, piggy’s SELF awaken. Piggy was AWARE what the pig was trying to do…Eras, touchy and feely. Just BOUNCE BOUNCE upward!

During the tough time of bungee bungee on the PENDULUM in PHF, the terrible experiences were that the First Order tried every means to pull the pig legs and tried to throw the pig onto the ground.

Now piggy is sitting on the FULCRUM (STILL) and waiting for Dandan to climb up too. Haha. Will Dandan become “eccentric”? Bounce…
Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 4 Jun, 2021 03:26 pm
@htam9876,
You have discovered a wonderful thing....

Transitioning from a SPECTATOR to a PLAYER is a real AWAKENING.

Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jun, 2021 12:38 am
@Jasper10,
Most modern day science is lost because it has lost touch with philosophy...and I am not taking about half philosophy.
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jun, 2021 12:40 am
@Jasper10,
Until science becomes a PLAYER and starts embraceing all 4 off of the logic output possibilities it will continue disappearing down the rabbit holes....totally lost.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jun, 2021 06:31 pm
@Jasper10,
PLAYER, touchy and feely

Actually that rabbit Dandan is a born “PLAYER”. Haha
 https://physicshelpforum.com/data/attachments/2/2656-d42c175e80c8ede451ef06c495e4de99.jpg
Just he doesn’t yet encounter your PRESENCE – SELF philosophical principle.
Those “authentic” set up their “standard” and close their door and confine themselves there, glad doing “prisoner of consciousness”.
Until they are AWARE that they have become “eccentric”.
They will have to AWAKEN.
 

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