1
   

Why isn't there a holiday for Marcus Garvey in America?

 
 
Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 06:34 pm
Hi. I am curious about this.

Marcus Garvey led the Pan-Africanism movement in America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was inspired by Garvey according to this:

https://www.buyblackmovement.com/MarcusGarvey/Impact/index.cfm#:~:text=He%20was%20inspired%20by%20the,Martin%20Luther%20King%2C%20Jr.&text=In%20a%20speech%20he%20told,and%20develop%20a%20mass%20movement.

If Garvey inspired King to become a leader in the African American civil rights movement, and Garvey was such an influential figure in America, how come there's no holiday for Garvey in America?

I know there's a Marcus Garvey Day in Jamaica:

https://anydayguide.com/calendar/3739#:~:text=Marcus%20Garvey%20Day%20in%20Jamaica%20Date%20in%20the%20current%20year,the%20rights%20of%20Afro%2DJamaicans

Please help. Thank you.
 
tsarstepan
 
  4  
Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 07:24 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Hi. I am curious about this.

Marcus Garvey led the Pan-Africanism movement in America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was inspired by Garvey according to this:

https://www.buyblackmovement.com/MarcusGarvey/Impact/index.cfm#:~:text=He%20was%20inspired%20by%20the,Martin%20Luther%20King%2C%20Jr.&text=In%20a%20speech%20he%20told,and%20develop%20a%20mass%20movement.

If Garvey inspired King to become a leader in the African American civil rights movement, and Garvey was such an influential figure in America, how come there's no holiday for Garvey in America?

I know there's a Marcus Garvey Day in Jamaica:

https://anydayguide.com/calendar/3739#:~:text=Marcus%20Garvey%20Day%20in%20Jamaica%20Date%20in%20the%20current%20year,the%20rights%20of%20Afro%2DJamaicans

Please help. Thank you.

No one is stopping you from writing your senator and bringing this issue up to him. And no, I don't suspect you'll write to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. She has a vagina and that offends your conservative evangelical sensibilities. You probably have animosity towards Senator Schumer. He's ... marginally progressive. That makes him a monster in your eyes I suspect.
JGoldman10
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 08:06 pm
@tsarstepan,
The reason there's no holiday for Garvey in America is because he's not the hero he's cracked up to be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

A closer look at his Wikipedia page shows that Garvey is a much more controversial and divisive figure:

"However, his black separatist views—and his relations with white racists such as the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) to advance their shared interest in racial separatism—divided Garvey from other prominent African-American civil rights activists such as W. E. B. Du Bois who promoted racial integration.

Garvey was a controversial figure. Some in the African diasporic community regarded him as a pretentious demagogue and were highly critical of his collaboration with white supremacists, his violent rhetoric, and his prejudice against mixed-race people and Jews. He nevertheless received praise for encouraging a sense of pride and self-worth among Africans and the African diaspora amid widespread poverty, discrimination, and colonialism. In Jamaica he is widely regarded as a national hero. His ideas exerted a considerable influence on such movements as Rastafari, the Nation of Islam, and the Black Power Movement."

I don't think most people would support parts of Garvey's ideology such as this, again from Wikipedia:

"In the U.S., ideas about the need for black racial purity became central to Garvey's thought. He vehemently denounced miscegenation, believing that mixed-race individuals were 'torn by dual allegiances' and would often ally 'with the more powerful race,' thus becoming 'traitors to the [black] race'. Garvey argued that mixed-race people would be bred out of existence.

Garvey's belief in racial separatism, the migration of African Americans to Africa, and opposition to miscegenation all endeared him to the KKK, who supported many of the same policies. Garvey was willing to collaborate with the KKK to achieve his aims, and they were willing to work with him because his approach effectively acknowledged the idea that the U.S. should be a country exclusively for white people and would abandon campaigns for advanced rights for African Americans within the U.S."

It is a bit easy to see why he isn't viewed in high regard to most Americans.
tsarstepan
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 08:31 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

The reason there's no holiday for Garvey in America is because he's not the hero he's cracked up to be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey

Good gravy, you're insanely boring and oblivious.
1. Copying and pasting text from a Wikipedia article is hardly research. If this is the best you could do? If I was your teacher, I'd give you a failing grade.
2. I didn't ask why there was no holiday for Garvey in America. Just showed you a possible way to rectify it. It's your damn desire/cultural priority that it needs rectification, not mine.
3. Why bother writing this thread AT ALL? Why post this reply? Seems like you think I have a say in any of this. And even if I did? You really are the opposite of persuasive.

Seems like you made your own thread pointless and moot, especially if you don't have the inclination to do anything about this cultural omission of a nonexisting holiday.
JGoldman10
 
  -3  
Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 08:46 pm
@tsarstepan,
I started this thread on another forum:

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1463586

I basically cut and pasted someone else's response to it.
tsarstepan
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 09:10 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

I started this thread on another forum:

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1463586

I basically cut and pasted someone else's response to it.

It will never cease to amaze me why you'd think anyone here at a2k would give a damn about activity that happens in other forums. FYI: do you realize that's a textbook definition of plagiarism you admitted to?
hightor
 
  4  
Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2021 06:41 am
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
I started this thread on another forum:

I basically cut and pasted someone else's response to it.


Rolling Eyes
0 Replies
 
JGoldman10
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 4 Feb, 2021 09:23 pm
@tsarstepan,
There is NO RULE that says I can't start THE SAME THREAD on multiple different internet forums.
0 Replies
 
JGoldman10
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 4 Feb, 2021 09:37 pm
Long story short. Mr. Garvey was a devout RACIST, hence why he was controversial. America is not going to do anything special to honor a RACIST.
cherrie
 
  3  
Reply Thu 4 Feb, 2021 09:52 pm
@JGoldman10,
It might have been better if you'd done this research before you asked the question.

Or instead of asking the question.
0 Replies
 
tsarstepan
 
  2  
Reply Thu 4 Feb, 2021 10:32 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Long story short. Mr. Garvey was a devout RACIST, hence why he was controversial. America is not going to do anything special to honor a RACIST.

So? As previously stated, this whole thread was literally pointless. Did you come here writing this thread thinking you were going to own whoever was randomly show up and argue for a Marcus Garvey holiday? And was abjectly confused when no one tried to run with that? So? You still decided to ... either assume that other posters MUST HAVE COME HERE in favor of a Garvey holiday (despite evidence to the contrary) and pretend you won the ... what clearly is a really dull one-sided argument with no one on the other side?
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, EVERYONE! - Discussion by OmSigDAVID
WIND AND WATER - Discussion by Setanta
Who ordered the construction of the Berlin Wall? - Discussion by Walter Hinteler
True version of Vlad Dracula, 15'th century - Discussion by gungasnake
ONE SMALL STEP . . . - Discussion by Setanta
History of Gun Control - Discussion by gungasnake
Where did our notion of a 'scholar' come from? - Discussion by TuringEquivalent
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Why isn't there a holiday for Marcus Garvey in America?
Copyright © 2021 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 06/19/2021 at 07:26:14