13
   

Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 05:00 pm
@Lash,
Trump will accelerate it, and all the time Trump makes the planet hotter you'll be blaming the Clintons.
0 Replies
 
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 05:01 pm
@blatham,
I think you're right.

0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 07:28 pm
@Donoghue,
Donoghue wrote:


Hello to all. georgeob1 here. For some, reason, unknown to me, my account still exists but is inoperable. Hence the new one. I sincerely hope all my old friends and interlocutors here are well and happy. Special greeting to Blatham Frank Apisa and Walter Hindler.

Apparently the election results have caused some real disturbances for many people. That said the results of the election are clear, and the associated shifts in the alignments of major groups of voters are substantial. The majority has spoken, and that is the essence of Democracy.

For me. and many others. the most remarkable element of all this is the surprise and disbelief among many about the result of the election, given the state of our economy, the situation on our southern border, rising crime and disorder in major cities, and the increasing conflict and instability afoot in the world. Our history in such situations is rather clear - they breed major political shifts. That those in power didn't see it coming is likely testimony to the deeply held, but impenetrable illusions to which they were subject.

Earlier today I saw a discussion on CNN in which Richard Scarborough recited a litany of awful things he alleged Trump had said ( none of which I heard, or ever materialized in fact) -- and realized we appeared to inhabit different planets. I suspect this is a widespread phenomenon. I also read a report about ongoing efforts in the McCourt School of Public Policy at Georgetown University offering a program of "mindfulness and therapy" for students "traumatized" after the election. Interesting to speculate about what may be behind all this. Can these people have been unaware of what to me appear to be very obvious factors motivating the election result?

Captivity to self-serving illusion is indeed a fairly common thing in human history. Most dramatic or even revolutionary changes in human affairs involve previously comfortable and complacent self-styled elites who didn't see it coming.

One heard frequently from Democrats that "inflati0n is easing and on the decrease", forgetful of the fact that the oddly named Inflation Reduction Act of August 2022, a few months later yielded a sharp rise in inflation from previously stable 10+ year values, peaking at about 9% (much higher in some categories like energy). The real significant fact here fact is the cumulative rise in prices over that period is very high and still undiminished.
One also frequently heard that "Democracy is in danger from Trump", notwithstanding the far greater authoritarian behavior of a Biden Administration that misused Federal funds to reward favored constituencies and address some effects of the uncontrolled mass immigration it knowingly caused ; and the misuse of the Judicial system with which it persecuted its political opponents.

The fact is that our Federal government is increasingly dominated by bureaucratic Agencies, unilaterally exercising regulatory power well beyond that authorized by their enabling legislation and directly enforcing it all with fines and restrictions without trial or Judicial protection. This has been going on for decades now, and I suspect these cumulative effects are also significant to the election result.

In any event our country will survive and even thrive, and our ability to effectively influence on an increasingly unstable international situation will be markedly improved.



Hey, George. Great to hear from ya...even more glad we are both still kickin'!

Your name does come up from time to time. I see that Bernie is saying he won't be around much any more. I keep thinking that the band should now be playing, "The World Turned Upside Down."
Builder
 
  -2  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 09:18 pm
From a social media post, that a Harris supporter shared.

ake Urlus
'I'm going to (anonymously) share a friend in the US's comment to me, because I think it hits the nail on the head:
"I am an independent in the US, I haven’t voted for a major party candidate, including Donald Trump, in the past five election cycles.
I know it’s the middle of the night in Oz, but when you have a minute, let me offer some context.
Trump has won in a landslide. He has won 5 of the seven “swing states “ and is projected to win the other two. He is expected to win 312 electoral votes, (270 to win). The Republicans have flipped the House and Senate. This is more than Donald Trump.
There were historic shifts in black and Hispanic voters. He won suburban women, which Harris was literally banking on. Over a third of Trump’s female voters are pro choice.
The American people were gaslit about President Biden. Harris and the rest of the Administration tried to hide his obvious cognitive decline. Their allies in the media told us not to believe our own eyes. This senile man is still the sitting president of the United States.
We were told the economy was great. Our industrial base has been defenestrated and middle class jobs were sent overseas. The middle class is disappearing. Yes inflation has come down, but wages have not kept up. People are genuinely in financial straits and instead of addressing it, we are told we are imagining what is going on in our own lives.
We could have had a Democratic Party primary. The party declared, no, Joe Biden is the candidate and that’s that. Harris is a decisively weak candidate, no political talent. She’s an empty suit and any honest person just said “Yeah, but she’s not Donald Trump”. That’s not enough to get people to vote for you anymore.
What I am about to point out is more up Jake Urlus lane, but what you are seeing is the Covid tyranny come home to roost. The totalitarian muscles that were flexed , the censorship, the violation of human rights and bodily autonomy, when you couldn’t leave your home but watched entire cities go up in flames with the enthusiastic backing of the Democratic Party, the voters haven’t forgotten that.
The Governor of the state of Washington, among others , called up the National Guard ahead of the election. This is straight up telling people that going to the polls is unsafe. It was “the Russians “ planning “disruptions of election infrastructure “. Did this governor call out the National Guard when his state had “the summer of love” in Seattle? No. People were murdered . There were billions of dollars in damages. So, spare me your efforts to keep me safe with the military.
Our debt is unsustainable. Our economy is built on financial gymnastics and speculation. Our people are unhealthy. Our regulatory agencies are run by industry.
People don’t trust the media. They don’t trust their elected officials. The public health system debased itself and make a mockery of science. The wealth gap is twice as wide as it was in 2016. We have doubled the debt in the past four years.
The Democratic Party wants to preserve the right to abortion but not protect women’s spaces or support women’s sports.
Australia has much more restrictive immigration policy. It’s easier to implement seeing as how migrants would have to walk a thousand miles on the water. We don’t even know how many people crossed illegally into our country in the past four years. At least 8 million. Our public services are stretched to the limit as it is. The US takes about a million legal immigrants into our country a year. We have an imperfect guest worker system but it’s better than wide open borders. If you think this much cheap labor doesn’t depress wages for Americans of all races and ethnicities, I have a bridge to sell you.
A healthy democracy doesn’t elect Donald Trump once, much less twice. Kamala Harris underperformed Joe Biden (in 2020) in every single county in the country. Every. Single. One.
The Biden presidency and Democratic Party rule have been a colossal failure. Donald Trump won not just the Electoral College, but the popular vote. People are willing to take their chances."
0 Replies
 
roger
 
  0  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 09:23 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Donoghue wrote:


Hello to all. georgeob1 here.


Delighted to see you back.
0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2024 11:06 pm
@Donoghue,
Donoghue wrote:
Special greeting to Blatham Frank Apisa and Walter Hindler.
Greetings to you, too (also from the missus).
0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2024 03:33 am
Quote:
Yesterday, November 5, 2024, Americans reelected former president Donald Trump, a Republican, to the presidency over Democratic candidate Vice President Kamala Harris. As of Wednesday night, Trump is projected to get at least 295 electoral votes to Harris’s 226, with two Republican-leaning states still not called. The popular vote count is still underway.

Republicans also retook control of the Senate, where Democrats were defending far more seats than Republicans. Control of the House is not yet clear.

These results were a surprise to everyone. Trump is a 78-year-old convicted felon who has been found liable for sexual assault and is currently under indictment in a number of jurisdictions. He refused to leave office peacefully when voters elected President Joe Biden in 2020, instead launching an unprecedented attack on the U.S. Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes, and said during his campaign that he would be a “dictator” on his first day in office.

Pollsters thought the race would be very close but showed increasing momentum for Harris, and Harris’s team expressed confidence during the day. By posting on social media—with no evidence—that the voting in Pennsylvania was rigged, Trump himself suggested he expected he would lose the popular vote, at least, as he did in 2016 and 2020.

But in 2024, it appears a majority of American voters chose to put Trump back into office.

Harris and her running mate, Minnesota governor Tim Walz, offered a message of unity, the expansion of the economic policies that have made the U.S. economy the strongest in the world in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, and the creation of an “opportunity economy” that echoed many of the policies Republicans used to embrace. Trump vowed to take revenge on his enemies and to return the country to the neoliberal policies President Joe Biden had rejected in favor of investing in the middle class.

When he took office, Biden acknowledged that democracy was in danger around the globe, as authoritarians like Russian president Vladimir Putin and China’s president Xi Jinping maintained that democracy was obsolete and must be replaced by autocracies. Russia set out to undermine the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) that enforced the rules-based international order that stood against Russian expansion.

Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán, who overturned democracy in his own country, explained that the historical liberal democracy of the United States weakens a nation because the equality it champions means treating immigrants, LGBTQ+ individuals, and women as equal to men, thus ending traditionally patriarchal society.

In place of democracy, Orbán champions “illiberal democracy,” or “Christian democracy.” This form of government holds nominal elections, although their outcome is preordained because the government controls all the media and has silenced opposition. Orbán’s model of minority rule promises a return to a white-dominated, religiously based society, and he has pushed his vision by eliminating the independent press, cracking down on political opposition, getting rid of the rule of law, and dominating the economy with a group of crony oligarchs.

In order to strengthen democracy at home and abroad, Biden worked to show that it delivered for ordinary Americans. He and the Democrats passed groundbreaking legislation to invest in rebuilding roads and bridges and build new factories to usher in green energy. They defended unions and used the Federal Trade Commission to break up monopolies and return more economic power to consumers.

Their system worked. It created record low unemployment rates, lifted wages for the bottom 80% of Americans, and built the strongest economy in the world in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, setting multiple stock market records. But that success turned out not to be enough to protect democracy.

In contrast, Trump promised he would return to the ideology of the era before 2021, when leaders believed in relying on markets to order the economy with the idea that wealthy individuals would invest more efficiently than if the government regulated business or skewed markets with targeted investment (in green energy, for example). Trump vowed to cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations and to make up lost revenue through tariffs, which he incorrectly insists are paid by foreign countries; tariffs are paid by U.S. consumers.

For policies, Trump’s campaign embraced the Project 2025 agenda led by the right-wing Heritage Foundation, which has close ties to Orbán. That plan calls for getting rid of the nonpartisan civil service the U.S. has had since 1883 and for making both the Department of Justice and the military partisan instruments of a strong president, much as Orbán did in Hungary. It also calls for instituting religious rule, including an end to abortion rights, across the U.S. Part of the idea of “purifying” the country is the deportation of undocumented immigrants: Trump promised to deport 20 million people at an estimated cost of $88 billion to $315 billion a year.

That is what voters chose.

Pundits today have spent time dissecting the election results, many trying to find the one tweak that would have changed the outcome, and suggesting sweeping solutions to the Democrats’ obvious inability to attract voters. There is no doubt that a key factor in voters’ swing to Trump is that they associated the inflation of the post-pandemic months with Biden and turned the incumbents out, a phenomenon seen all over the world.

There is also no doubt that both racism and sexism played an important role in Harris’s defeat.

But my own conclusion is that both of those things were amplified by the flood of disinformation that has plagued the U.S. for years now. Russian political theorists called the construction of a virtual political reality through modern media “political technology.” They developed several techniques in this approach to politics, but the key was creating a false narrative in order to control public debate. These techniques perverted democracy, turning it from the concept of voters choosing their leaders into the concept of voters rubber-stamping the leaders they had been manipulated into backing.

In the U.S., pervasive right-wing media, from the Fox News Channel through right-wing podcasts and YouTube channels run by influencers, have permitted Trump and right-wing influencers to portray the booming economy as “failing” and to run away from the hugely unpopular Project 2025. They allowed MAGA Republicans to portray a dramatically falling crime rate as a crime wave and immigration as an invasion. They also shielded its audience from the many statements of Trump’s former staff that he is unfit for office, and even that his chief of staff General John Kelly considers him a fascist and noted that he admires German Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.

As actor Walter Masterson posted: “I tried to educate people about tariffs, I tried to explain that undocumented immigrants pay billions in taxes and are the foundation of this country. I explained Project 2025, I interviewed to show that they supported it. I can not compete against the propaganda machines of Twitter, Fox News, [Joe Rogan Experience], and NY Post. These spaces will continue to create reality unless we create a more effective way of reaching people.”

X users noted a dramatic drop in their followers today, likely as bots, no longer necessary, disengaged.

Many voters who were using their vote to make an economic statement are likely going to be surprised to discover what they have actually voted for. In his victory speech, Trump said the American people had given him an “unprecedented and powerful mandate.”

White nationalist Nick Fuentes posted, “Your body, my choice. Forever,” and gloated that men will now legally control women’s bodies. His post got at least 22,000 “likes.” Right-wing influencer Benny Johnson, previously funded by Russia, posted: “It is my honor to inform you that Project 2025 was real the whole time.”

Today, Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Trump would launch the “largest mass deportation operation” of undocumented immigrants, and the stock in private prison companies GEO Group and CoreCivic jumped 41% and 29%, respectively. Those jumps were part of a bigger overall jump: the Dow Jones Industrial Average moved up 1,508 points in what Washington Post economic columnist Heather Long said was the largest post-election jump in more than 100 years.

As for the lower prices Trump voters wanted, Kate Gibson of CBS today noted that on Monday, the National Retail Federation said that Trump’s proposed tariffs will cost American consumers between $46 billion and $78 billion a year as clothing, toys, furniture, appliances, and footwear all become more expensive. A $50 pair of running shoes, Gibson said, would retail for $59 to $64 under the new tariffs.

U.S. retailers are already preparing to raise prices of items from foreign suppliers, passing to consumers the cost of any future tariffs.

Trump’s election will also mean he will no longer have to answer to the law for his federal indictments: special counsel Jack Smith is winding them down ahead of Trump’s inauguration. So he will not be tried for retaining classified documents or attempting to overthrow the U.S. government when he lost in 2020.

This evening, Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orbán posted on social media that he had just spoken with Trump, and said: “We have big plans for the future!”

This afternoon, Vice President Kamala Harris spoke at her alma mater, Howard University, to concede the election to Trump.

She thanked her supporters, her family, the Bidens, the Walz family, and her campaign staff and volunteers. She reiterated that she believes Americans have far more in common than separating us.

In what appeared to be a message to Trump, she noted: “A fundamental principle of American democracy is that when we lose an election, we accept the results. That principle as much as any other distinguishes democracy from monarchy or tyranny, and anyone who seeks the public trust must honor it. At the same time in our nation, we owe loyalty not to a president or a party, but to the Constitution of the United States, and loyalty to our conscience and to our God.

“My allegiance to all three is why I am here to say, while I concede this election, I do not concede the fight that fuels this campaign, the fight for freedom, for opportunity, for fairness and the dignity of all people, a fight for the ideals at the heart of our nation, the ideals that reflect America at our best. That is a fight I will never give up.”

Harris urged people “to organize, to mobilize and to stay engaged for the sake of freedom and justice and the future that we all know we can build together.” She told those feeling as if the world is dark indeed these days, to “fill the sky with the light of a billion brilliant stars, the light of optimism, of faith, of truth and service,” and to let “that work guide us, even in the face of setbacks, toward the extraordinary promise of the United States of America.”

hcr
0 Replies
 
hingehead
 
  2  
Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2024 01:32 pm
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2a/e3/9f/2ae39f6ed7c1a2a7557b672ca2fb57e2.jpg
0 Replies
 
hingehead
 
  2  
Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2024 01:40 pm
From a recent twitter exchange
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2a/6f/46/2a6f46a787c86981dbaa598153c1c453.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/89/ef/72/89ef72276fe4503e56f1773a3343c0b3.jpg
Lash
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 03:34 am
As Putin emerges as a leader of a large consortium of nations juxtaposed by the decline of US influence, I was incredibly heartened to hear Putin’s comments yesterday. Notable comments:

He will not stop using the dollar.
He is ready to talk to Trump about the end of hostilities in Ukraine.
He is interested in improved relations with Europe and the US.

He is in a position to do a lot of damage and certainly is motivated to do so.

He appears to be the only adult in the building.

I hope this offer isn’t ignored.

His petroleum products alone would help Europe.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 03:50 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
His petroleum products alone would help Europe.

Quote:
So you changed following the ideas of the =ttps://www.gp.org/green_new_deal]Green New Deal.

0 Replies
 
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 03:51 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
As Putin emerges as a leader of a large consortium of nations ...
Exactly what nations did elect or nominate him as their leader?
[BRICS member countries each summit elect one of the heads of state of the component countries to serve as President Pro Tempore of the BRICS.]
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 04:29 am
Quote:
Today the Trump family posed for a post-election photo. Missing from the group was former first lady Melania Trump. Joining the family was billionaire Elon Musk, who supported Trump’s campaign both through his ownership of X, formerly Twitter, and then with $132 million in cash and with apparent giveaways to get voters to give the campaign personal information.

As an immigrant from South Africa, Musk is barred from the presidency himself by the U.S. Constitution, which requires that a president be born in the U.S. (out of the Framers’ concern that a foreign country could put a puppet in the presidency). But he is now very close to Trump and stands to gain significantly from a Trump presidency, both through deregulation and government contracts, and through Trump’s planned tariffs on Chinese imports that will enable Musk to monopolize the electric vehicle market in the U.S. Musk also would like a victory in the culture wars; he is strongly opposed to transgender rights.

After the election results came out, Musk posted on X, “Novus Ordo Seclorum,” Latin for “New World Order.”

At Trump’s election party, Trump said: “We have a new star: Elon. He is an amazing guy. We were sitting together tonight—you know he spent two weeks in Philadelphia and different parts of Pennsylvania campaigning? He's a character, he's a special guy. He's a super-genius, and we have to protect our geniuses, we don't have that many of them. We have to protect our super-geniuses.”

Trump’s new closeness with Musk presents an issue for the Republican Party. The president-elect is 78 and has shown signs of mental and physical deterioration, making it possible that someone will need to take his place at some point in the next four years.

The vice president–elect, current Ohio senator J.D. Vance, who is backed by billionaire Peter Thiel, is constitutionally the next in line for the presidency, but neither Musk nor Vance has Trump’s popular support, making it unclear who will take over the leadership of the party if such a takeover is necessary. Whether either can command Trump’s supporters is also unclear.

What is clear is that neither of them has much experience in elected office. Vance was elected senator just two years ago, and Musk comes from the business world.

There is another, major problem for the party, as well: Trump won the election in part by promising everything to everyone, but the actual policies of the MAGA party are unpopular, even with many Republican voters.

Notably, Trump has said he will appoint Musk to head a new government efficiency commission, and Musk has vowed to cut “at least $2 trillion” from the federal budget. Such cuts would decimate government services, including food programs and Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Supplemental nutrition programs disproportionately benefit rural areas, and Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are used much more heavily in counties that support Trump than those that don’t.

That will be a hard circle to square.

So will Trump’s promise to lower consumer costs while also putting tariffs of 10% to 20% on all foreign imports and of 60% on imports from China. Tariffs are borne by consumers, so by definition they will drive prices up. These two promises cannot be reconciled.

Trump has promised mass deportations, and much of his base is fervently behind them. The Republican National Committee even had signs saying “MASS DEPORTATION NOW” made up for attendees to wave at the party’s convention.

Priscilla Alvarez and Alayna Treene of CNN reported today that Trump’s allies have been preparing for mass detentions and deportations of undocumented immigrants, and the stock prices of private prison companies GEO Group and CoreCivic have soared since Trump’s election. Steven T. Dennis of Bloomberg reported that on an earnings call today, GEO chief executive officer Brian Evans told investors that filling currently empty beds could bring in $400 million a year and that the company can scale up its current surveillance, monitoring, and transportation programs to handle millions of immigrants. “This is to us an unprecedented opportunity,” he said.

But deporting up to 20 million people will be a logistical nightmare and is projected to cost from $88 billion to $315 billion a year. At the same time, much of the U.S. economy depends on undocumented immigrants, and Republican businessmen will certainly object to losing their workers.

Tom Homan, who served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement under Trump in his first term, backed away from some of the extremes of Trump’s immigration policy when he told CBS last month: “It’s not gonna be—a mass sweep of neighborhoods. It’s not gonna be building concentration camps. I’ve read it all. It’s ridiculous…. They’ll be targeted arrests. We’ll know who we’re going to arrest, where we’re most likely to find ‘em based on numerous, you know, investigative processes.”

Meanwhile, Democratic state lawmakers have been preparing for a potential Trump administration for more than a year, and some are putting down public markers that they will not cooperate with the extreme policies of the Trump administration.

Trump vowed to begin his mass deportation plan in Aurora, Colorado, where he maintained—contrary to the statements of local Republican officials—that Venezuelan gangs had taken over the city. Aurora is a suburb of Denver, and yesterday the mayor of Denver, Mike Johnston, told a reporter he would not cooperate with requests that are “immoral or unethical or unfair.”

California governor Gavin Newsom called an emergency session of the California state legislature to convene on December 2, “to help bolster our legal resources and protect our state against any unlawful actions by the incoming Trump Administration.” It will focus on funding lawsuits against any actions that impact civil liberties, reproductive rights, protection for immigrants, and climate initiatives. Newsom said the California lawmakers “will seek to work with the incoming president—but let there be no mistake, we intend to stand with states across our nation to defend our Constitution and uphold the rule of law.”

California has the fifth largest economy in the world, and its population of 39 million people is more than four times the 9.59 million people in Hungary, the country from which MAGA Republicans are taking much of their ideological vision.

Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker, who has been called a “happy warrior,” held a press conference today, telling reporters that he will continue working to keep Illinois “a place of stability and competent governance” and vowing to protect the people of his state no matter what the new administration does. “To anyone who intends to come take away the freedom and opportunity and dignity of Illinoisans: I would remind you that a happy warrior is still a warrior,” he said. “You come for my people, you come through me.”

Trump has made it clear he intends to have a say in the decisions of the Federal Reserve, which manages interest rates, and during his first term he frequently attacked Fed chair Jerome Powell, whom he appointed, for not lowering rates to boost the economy. Trump’s advisors have suggested the president can gain power over the nation’s finances by removing members of the Fed in his next term.

Today, when reporters asked Powell if he would resign before Trump takes office, he said no. When asked if Trump could fire or demote him or the other Fed governors, Powell was firm: “Not permitted under the law.”

hcr
0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  4  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 05:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
(...) I was incredibly heartened to hear Putin’s comments yesterday.
(...) He appears to be the only adult in the building.
(...) His petroleum products alone would help Europe.

He governs one of the most repressive of all the technically advanced nations. He has a childish fixation on restoring the Slavic peoples to some sort of imagined historical glory. Russia's economy is based on extractive industries like mining and petrochemicals and he appears to be oblivious to the dangers associated with continued CO2 pollution. He supports repressive regimes in Iran and North Korea and his mercenaries are busy destabilizing the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa. His offensive war against Ukraine is based on an imperial fantasy more in line with the 19th Century.

It's hard to see why Lash is so supportive of this international criminal. Does everything have to be binary? She hates Democrats so she supports Putin?
Lash
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 06:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Anyone watching would say his actions within BRICS and the international community constitute ‘emerging as a leader.’

Not ‘the only leader’.

My how the quibblers eat at the edges.
Lash
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 06:59 am
@hightor,
I’m not binary at all.

I’m watching Putin on the world stage, and I’ve seen a lot to appreciate—in the same way I form opinions about everyone.
0 Replies
 
hightor
 
  5  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 07:50 am
Quote:
I’m watching Putin on the world stage, and I’ve seen a lot to appreciate...

Exactly. She watches him "on the world stage", where is an actor. His comments are scripted, his settings are controlled, he surrounds himself with star-struck fans.

I saw a lot to appreciate in Alexei Navalny – unfortunately he, and countless other victims, aren't acting; they are living – and being killed – in a very real world, dying at the hands of the demagogues she finds so attractive.
Region Philbis
 
  3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 08:12 am
@hightor,
Quote:
His comments are scripted, his settings are controlled, he surrounds himself with star-struck fans.
ditto the orange turd...
0 Replies
 
Lash
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 11:45 am
Anybody who thinks Trump is scripted is an idiot.
He’s a loose cannon who probably doesn’t know half of what he’ll say until it falls out of his mouth.

Kamala, on the other hand, is unable to speak without the words teleprompted in her face.

Why lie so much??? You might find some kind of legitimate criticism in the truth.
hightor
 
  5  
Reply Fri 8 Nov, 2024 12:21 pm
@Lash,
"Scripted" in the sense that he's said all his lines all before and you can basically finish his sentences. "Scripted" in that rallies were basically interchangeable – same references, same enemies, same punchlines. "Scripted" can mean "planned", not just reading off a sheet of paper.

Quote:
Kamala, on the other hand, is unable to speak without the words teleprompted in her face.

Bullshit. I've seen her in non-teleprompted conversations and she has a grown-up vocabulary, comprehends English syntax, and doesn't make the same mistakes twice. How long, FFS, has Trump been talking about Haitians eating pets in Springfield, Ohio?

If you want to criticize Harris don't resort to making binary comparisons – "Trump's remarks aren't scripted, Kamala's are," is a pretty juvenile response.
As someone remarked, "Why lie so much??? You might find some kind of legitimate criticism in the truth."


0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 5.42 seconds on 11/22/2024 at 11:10:05