@Region Philbis,
Quote:Re: blatham (Post 7375460)
Walz was very impressive in Philly.
that rally gave me hope for the future of this country, a genuine feeling of optimism i haven't had since 2017...
Me too, Region. Three weeks ago, I was rather seriously depressed, a state of mind that had been building for some years as I witnessed the movement conservatives becoming more extreme and making steady gains towards controlling key levers of power and influence in US culture and politics. The prospect of another Trump term and all that would come with that was overwhelming me.
And, now, that depression has lifted. I'm no longer living in Hamlet's world. And there is significant evidence that the same sort of thing is happening for many Americans (and other nations' close observers of US politics). I haven't been this happy and enthusiastic for a long time.
@Frank Apisa,
Yes. There's something very delicious in seeing a black female heading up the ticket. And now with a seemingly rather perfect fellow as her VP pick. The enthusiasm these two are inspiring is really something. And, yup, the GOP will play dirty right through the election and afterwards. But I think it's likely now that we'll win this thing. With Trump and Vance as the figureheads of the modern GOP, the contrast between the good guys and the bad guys is made absolutely clear. Now, if we can just get majorities in the House and Senate as well, then we can even hope for a real blow to the modern right.
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
Yes. There's something very delicious in seeing a black female heading up the ticket. And now with a seemingly rather perfect fellow as her VP pick. The enthusiasm these two are inspiring is really something. And, yup, the GOP will play dirty right through the election and afterwards. But I think it's likely now that we'll win this thing. With Trump and Vance as the figureheads of the modern GOP, the contrast between the good guys and the bad guys is made absolutely clear. Now, if we can just get majorities in the House and Senate as well, then we can even hope for a real blow to the modern right.
From those of us outside religion, Bernie, this may sound strange, but allow me to say:
From your lips to God's ear.
{wink}
Meanwhile, I hope izzy shows up and gives us some news about what's going on in the UK.
@hightor,
I've been sat in a tattoo studio all day while my son had The Simpson's Kang and Kodosin an ice cream cone.
While I was there I read Memoirs of a Poor Devil by Thomas le Breton from cover to cover.
CI's favourite London haunt Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese was mentioned, and I was going to talk about that.
@izzythepush,
I realise feedback on a book published in 1926 is exactly breaking news, although he ended warning of the dangers of allowing Germany to re-arm, so he got that right.
This all kicked off after a 17 year old boy murdered three little girls and injured a lot more at a Taylor Swift themed event.
The far right posted it a Muslim and far right thugs attacked the local mosque.
The police then took the unusual step of releasing the accused's details. He was born in Cardiff, but his parents are from Rwanda.
The far right has taken this as an excuse to attack immigrant centres across the country.
It's being fed by disinformation from Tommy Robinson fascist leader of the EDL. He is wanted ovef here but has skipped bail.
Elon Musk is repeating Robinson's disinformation. Claims of "two tier policing," basically the far right is claiminb the pol8ce go heavier o themthan black people.
It's a load of bollocks.
We've not had any trouble in Southampton yet, there was talk of a lawyer's office being targetted which seems to have not materialised yet.
I am concerned because my dil's lawyer is an immigration lawyer, although not the one targetted.
There have been a lot of arrests, and those arrested are being put on remand, so it's going to peter out soon.
My own take is that this seems very similar to the riots that sprung out after David Cameron became prime minister.
That time it was anarchists, it's like the extreme supporters lash out once the other side got in.
Those rioters received the same treatment as the far right rioters are receiving now, so much for two tier policing.
The main difference now is the rioters have a voice in the House of Commons, Nigel Farage.
As for two tier policing the police have said it's different protests by environmentalists, BLM and pro Palestine factions are designed to frustrate the police and gain publicity.
That doesn't mean to say there hadn't been trouble, but it's isolated, small groups. The vast majority of protesters have been peaceful.
The far right aren't like that, they're a bunch of thugs out to cause violent disorder.
It's not the same.
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:From your lips to God's ear.
{wink}
As to the God thing... I'm with Woody here. As he put it, "I believe in God. I just think he's an underachiever".
@izzythepush,
We had a similar situation here in Germany in 1992: Nazis who had travelled to Rostock-Lichtenhagen, but also local residents, laid siege to the "Sonnenblumenhaus", which housed both the central reception centre for asylum seekers and a hostel for Vietnamese contract workers.
In the end, they set fire to the hostel.
Anyone who seriously claims that migrants or refugees are part of an invasion should not be surprised if some take the supposed defence of the country into their own hands. Such rhetoric legitimises violence.
This was demonstrated in Germany in the 1990s.
And is now being seen again in the United Kingdom.
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm not the only one having such thoughts:
Quote:In Walthamstow in north east London, thousands of locals, antifascist activists and others have gathered near the area’s central shopping area.
Police maintained a significant but discreet presence close to Hoe Street as 8pm, the time designated for a Far Right ‘protest,’ passed without incident. There was no sign of any Far Right supporters.
Those gathered on Hoe Street included Kristine Pommert, a German who has been living in the UK since 1992, and came carrying a placard reading: “We are one human race.”
“I am from a place where people did not stand up against fascism when it was really necessary and for that reason I feel that we have to be here,” she said. “What’s been happening in England over the last few days is something that I recognises and I can see echoes of the past in Germany, whether that’s the 30s or the attacks on people in Rostock in the eastern part of Germany in the 1990s.”
The Guardian live blog
@Walter Hinteler,
Lots of people are out on the streets.
The far right are heavily outnumbered.
So the cowards are staying away.
From @RadioFreeTom in the Atlantic
The Democratic ticket has now taken shape, and Donald Trump is not handling it well. Meanwhile, his running mate and the rest of his party are stumbling.
A Tire Fire
Vice President Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party have defied the expectations of many observers—and as usual, when I say “many observers,” I mostly mean “me”—by making an almost flawless transition from President Joe Biden’s faltering chances to a new and energized campaign. Yesterday, Harris rolled out the ebullient Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate at a rally in Philadelphia, where one of Walz’s former competitors for the job, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, gave a rousing address to the crowd.
So far, the Democrats have avoided the backbiting and chaos that could have erupted after Biden’s unprecedented departure from the race. They’ve left that to the Republicans, who don’t seem to be handling any of the news from the past few weeks very well. Before we turn to Trump himself, let’s review some of the recent banner moments for the Grand Old Party.
This week, the former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis accepted a deal from the state of Arizona to cooperate in its fake-elector case. Ellis, who served as a deputy district attorney in a Colorado county for six months before getting fired, was finally disciplined in May by the Colorado Supreme Court for her actions related to the 2020 election, and agreed to give up her law license for three years. An Arizona grand jury described by Politico as “unusually aggressive” (read: deeply pissed off) indicted 18 people in the scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 election, even asking to bring in others who were not targets of the investigation. In the days since Ellis flipped, one of the fake electors became the first to take a plea deal.
Nevertheless, Arizona Republicans last week nominated Kari Lake—the MAGA darling, election denier, and loser in the 2022 gubernatorial election—for one of Arizona’s Senate seats. Early polls show Lake running behind Democratic candidate Ruben Gallego, and her weakness as a statewide candidate prompted the conservative Arizona commentator Jon Gabriel to post a simple prediction on X: “Onto another loss in the general.”
Other GOP state parties are flailing about as well. A number of former GOP state and national officials are ditching their party’s nominee and joining “Republicans for Harris,” a group with a name few conservatives could even have parsed five years ago. These defections are understandable when new GOP leaders are people like Lake and Mark Robinson, the Republican nominee for governor in North Carolina who said in June—while standing in a church—that “some folks need killing.”
At the national level, GOP commentators seem especially flummoxed about the Walz rollout. They are, for now, trying mightily to make it seem as if Harris opting for Walz over Shapiro is evidence of roiling anti-Semitism in the Democratic Party. Scott Jennings, who seems to be vying for the Jeffrey Lord Chair of Republican Sycophancy at CNN, mumbled that Harris chose Walz because the Democrats are “awash in anti-Semitism,” a smear that even his network colleagues on the panel wouldn’t let pass. Other Republicans have tried with increasing churlishness to make the charge stick online, and Trump himself has called Walz’s selection “insulting to Jewish people,” which, of course, makes no sense.
Meanwhile, J. D. Vance’s excruciating flameout as Trump’s running mate seems to have some Republicans wishing they could just drive him back to Ohio and leave him there. One source of the bad-mouthing appears to be the GOP strategist and former Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, who issued one of the greatest non-denial-denials in recent political history:
“When it comes to concerned people questioning the vetting or selection of JD Vance, the calls are coming in, not going out,” she said. “I’m not calling them and saying this is bad. People are asking me. They’re not just asking me. They’re asking lots of people.”
Did you follow that? I’m not out there saying bad things about J. D., and I never said he was a mistake; I’m just answering the many calls—so many!—from people who think he’s a mistake.
Oh.
Trump, for his part, backed up his running mate a week ago by telling the audience at the National Association of Black Journalists convention that vice presidents really don’t matter for the outcomes of elections. (Well, Trump admitted, “maybe Lyndon Johnson mattered, for different reasons.”)
Vance might be grateful that so much of the news this week was about Walz, because at least it overshadowed the story in The Washington Post that Vance—a United States senator—was texting with a notorious internet troll named Chuck Johnson.
Vance and Johnson exchanged views on conspiracies: “Do you think [Jeffrey] Epstein actually killed himself?” Vance asked. He asked Johnson his views on the existence of UFOs, and mocked the death of the GOP mega-donor Sheldon Adelson. “Never met him,” he wrote. “Hes dead. Don’t care.” The senator also discussed potentially sensitive military-assistance issues with his new friend. (“Dude I won’t even take calls from Ukraine,” Vance reportedly told Johnson, claiming that senior Ukrainian officials had reached out to him, “bitching about F16s.”)
A Vance spokesperson claims that Johnson “spam texted” the senator and that Vance “usually ignored him, but occasionally responded to push back against things [Johnson] said.” That’s not how those texts read, but as a former Hill staffer, I might suggest to Vance’s assistants that someone like Chuck Johnson isn’t even supposed to have your boss’s phone number.
To paraphrase Succession’s Logan Roy: These are not serious people.
No one is handling the past few weeks more poorly than Trump himself, who, as The Bulwark’s Andrew Egger noted, seems to have retreated into an Aaron Sorkin–inspired fantasy. Yesterday, the former president posted this on his Truth Social site:
What are the chances that Crooked Joe Biden, the WORST President in the history of the U.S., whose Presidency was Unconstitutionally STOLEN from him by Kamabla, Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, Crazy Nancy Pelosi, Shifty Adam Schiff, Cryin’ Chuck Schumer, and others on the Lunatic Left, CRASHES the Democrat National Convention and tries to take back the Nomination, beginning with challenging me to another DEBATE. He feels that he made a historically tragic mistake by handing over the U.S. Presidency, a COUP, to the people in the World he most hates, and he wants it back, NOW!!!
“Kamabla”?
This might be too much even for a Sorkin script. Trump’s reactions lately are so unhinged, so hysterical, that they could pass for one of those scenes in a soap opera where a drunken dowager finds out that her May-December romance is a sham, and she begs him, as mascara flows down her cheeks, to fly off with her to Gstaad or Antibes to rekindle their love.
In reality, of course, this is all a disturbing reminder that Trump is a deeply unwell person who is not fit to be the commander in chief, and that should he return to office, other Republican officials cannot be counted on to protect the nation—especially Vance, who reveals himself daily as every bit the intellectual lightweight and political fraud his critics believe he is.
The Democrats are doing well, and Republicans are sitting in the middle of a tire fire. But Trump is still in a commanding electoral position, and he could still win. The pro-democracy coalition has every reason to enjoy some good news, but these past few weeks should not obscure the existential danger America faces in November.
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
From @RadioFreeTom in the Atlantic
...
At the national level, GOP commentators seem especially flummoxed about the Walz rollout. They are, for now, trying mightily to make it seem as if Harris opting for Walz over Shapiro is evidence of roiling anti-Semitism in the Democratic Party. Scott Jennings, who seems to be vying for the Jeffrey Lord Chair of Republican Sycophancy at CNN, mumbled that Harris chose Walz because the Democrats are “awash in anti-Semitism,” a smear that even his network colleagues on the panel wouldn’t let pass. Other Republicans have tried with increasing churlishness to make the charge stick online, and Trump himself has called Walz’s selection “insulting to Jewish people,” which, of course, makes no sense.....
It would really be great if these goyische GOPers could stop trying to claim they know what Jews want, need, or even are insulted by. It's about as appropriate as when white GOPers (AKA over 90% of them) tell people of color what they're insulted by, need, want, etc.
@izzythepush,
Quote:Billionaire social media boss Elon Musk has launched another attack on the British authorities attempting to tackle far right hate riots in the UK.
The owner of X (formerly Twitter) posted “woke stasi” this morning in response to the director of public prosecutions Stephen Parkinson promising to prosecute people who post or report material that incites racial hatred on social media platforms.
The IndependentStasi is the abbreviation for
Staatssicherheit ("State Security"). This is what the citizens of the GDR (abbreviation for "German Democratic Republic") called the Ministry for State Security.
When the GDR still existed - until 1990 - the Stasi had two tasks: It was the secret service and secret police of the GDR.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is responsible for prosecuting criminal cases investigated by the police and other investigative authorities, in England and Wales.
Seems, Musk needs an educational update (others, too).
@Walter Hinteler,
It’s likely the strong language from Parkinson, which has been echoed by the PM and the home secretary, has obviously put off many would-be rioters.
And now that we’re seeing the kind of sentences people can expect to receive for joining in with the violence, the deterrent has grown even stronger.
Elon Musk shared a fake Telegraph article claiming Keir Starmer was considering sending far-right rioters to “emergency detainment camps” in the Falklands.
Musk deleted his post after about 30 minutes but a screenshot captured by Politics.co.uk suggests it had garnered nearly two million views before it was deleted.
Full report
She sounds like a fine lady and a true patriot.
Quote:(CNN
Michele Morrow, the Republican nominee to run K-12 public education in North Carolina, filmed a video after attending the January 6 riot at the US Capitol urging then-President Donald Trump to put “the Constitution to the side” and use the military to stay in power.
In a deleted Facebook livestream she filmed from her hotel room, Morrow called for mass arrests of anyone who helped certify the 2020 election. “And if the police won’t do it and the Department of Justice won’t do it, then he will have to enact the Insurrection Act,” said Morrow. “In which case the Insurrection Act completely puts the Constitution to the side and says, now the military rules all.”
Morrow was at the Capitol as the attack occurred, according to public videos reviewed by CNN that show her in a restricted area on the northwest side of the Capitol. CNN has seen no evidence that Morrow entered the Capitol building that day or that she engaged in violence, and she was not charged with any crimes.
In March’s Republican primary, Morrow defeated the incumbent North Carolina Superintendent of Public Instruction, a job that manages the state’s $11 billion budget for K-12 public schools and helps set education priorities and implement curriculum standards.
That same month, CNN’s KFile reported Morrow had previously called for the public execution of Barack Obama and the death of Joe Biden and other prominent Democrats in comments on a since-deleted X account.
“I prefer a Pay Per View of him in front of the firing squad,” Morrow wrote in a since-deleted post from May 2020 about Obama. “I do not want to waste another dime on supporting his life. We could make some money back from televising his death.”
It’s unclear when the Facebook video was deleted, but the candidate has purged past extremist posts since running for office in North Carolina...
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