@blatham,
Quote:Though I'm not suggesting you are making this mistake, it would be a mistake to think that what he is doing and what he is saying aren't working to his benefit.
See, I think you and I have definite differences in what we deem as important. You say it “works to his benefit”. I say so what if it keeps him popular and in favor with the people who support him? So what? So he’s leading in the polls? That’s
not my focus – my focus is how he looks
to the judges and juries who will decide whether he rots in prison. I don’t care that his blathering and capering makes him a superhero to the drooling hordes of motherfucking Trump supporters. For crissakes, they would vote for him if he barbequed a puppy on live tv.
I care that the American justice system may
finally have enough material and momentum to save democracy from this putrid creep.
You and Frank Apisa and others keep bringing up concerns about what his supporters will think, and what they might do. I’m saying that in doing so, you’re feeding right into a festering disease upon the very concept of right and wrong.
Look, I’m saying justice must be done with Trump, and it must be done NOTWITHSTANDING WHATEVER HIS ******* CRAZY-ASS SUPPORTERS THINK, OR WHAT THEY DO. Please cease cautioning me to be wary of what his stirring the crazy pot might do.
Quote:Of course he knows now (and always has) that he is lying. But he got rich and became President and now leader of the GOP through behaving/speaking as he always has. Whether in business, in the courts or in politics, he is a chaos agent. It's the key reason his base loves him. He can, in a campaign stop, call Biden a "mother ******" and his base cheers. He can make another joke about Paul Pelosi being assaulted with a hammer and his audience screams in approval. He can declare that if he is President again then people stealing from a store will be shot. Shot! He can threaten Milley's life and before attending his trial say publicly that his judge deserves to be put on trial and his base love him for saying these things. What he is doing right now is a duplicate of what he tried before Jan 6 - foment violence and revolution against any person or any national institution that attempts to curb his rise to dictatorial power through creating civic chaos.
Yes Blatham, I understand he’s doing the same things now that he’s always done. There's one tiny difference now, that I am counting on. Now he’s doing it while OUT ON BAIL FACING FOUR INDICTMENTS. Otherwise, I’d probably be chiming right in with you and others warning to “be careful”, to “not underestimate”, and reminding of “his popularity, influence and power”, because all that we'd be talking about is the chance this stupid country will elect him again.
Quote:I don't think he'll skate through and win an election. But we're left with a huge portion of the population who will have developed an eager appetite for the vigorous and violent chaos he has inspired.
There’s that focus again... – on all those tens of millions who will still vote for him, and might take up tiki torches and assault rifles. They are of course a worry, but I wrote them off as irredeemable persons to beware of – WHEN THEY TRIED TO REELECT HIM 3 YEARS AGO.
I cannot live in fear of what those crazy sumbitches will do. And sorry, but that’s what it feels like you’re suggesting - to fear: “Go ahead and hate Trump if you want; hope and pray that he is convicted and sentenced. But you better not forget that he’s still popular to 70 million crazy motherfuckers.”
I don’t forget it, or ignore it. I’m sure all the people in the justice system who hold Trump’s life in their hands are ACUTELY AWARE of the crazies. But I hope if they think about them at all, it just makes them more determined to look at the evidence and convict this asshole. An alarming amount of things depend on that.