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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
tsarstepan
 
  3  
Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2023 03:38 pm
A judge tossed out Trump's countersuit to E. Jean Carroll. What does this mean?
Quote:
A federal judge in New York dismissed former President Donald Trump's countersuit against writer E. Jean Carroll, dealing yet another blow to Trump's ever-growing legal woes.

Trump and his legal team claimed that the former magazine writer defamed him when she said that he raped her on CNN.

Carroll made these comments during an interview after she won one of her lawsuits against the former president in May. The jury in that case found Trump liable for battery and defamation. Jurors found he did sexually abuse the writer and defamed her when he denied her allegation. Carroll was awarded $5 million in damages.

When Carroll was asked by CNN about the verdict finding Trump didn't rape her as defined under New York law she responded, "Oh, yes he did."

For that, Trump sued the writer back in June.

And on Monday, federal Judge Lewis Kaplan said Carroll's statements repeating the claim that Trump had raped her were "substantially true" given the jury's verdict in that case.

An attorney for Carroll, Robbie Kaplan, said in a statement that they are pleased the court dismissed Trump's counterclaim.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Tue 8 Aug, 2023 06:17 pm
@tsarstepan,
I think it means he has to pay the lady $5Mill or so.
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blatham
 
  6  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 12:10 am
This one is important. And not just for Ohio. It continues a trend of voters consistently coming out in big numbers where ever the abortion issue is front and center. And as you'll see when you read the full article, the right pushed much more money into this vote than did the left.
Quote:
Ohio Voters Reject Constitutional Change Intended to Thwart Abortion Amendment
The contest was seen as a test of efforts by Republicans nationwide to curb voters’ use of ballot initiatives.

Ohio voters rejected a bid on Tuesday to make it harder to amend the State Constitution, according to The Associated Press, a significant victory for abortion-rights supporters trying to stop the Republican-controlled State Legislature from severely restricting the procedure.

The abortion question turned what would normally be a sleepy summer election in an off year into a highly visible dogfight that took on national importance and drew an unprecedented number of Ohio voters for an August election.

Late results showed the measure losing by 13 percentage points, 56.5 percent to 43.5 percent. The roughly 2.8 million votes cast dwarfed the 1.66 million ballots counted in the state’s 2022 primary elections, in which races for governor, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House were up for grabs...
NYT
hingehead
 
  3  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 12:46 am
@blatham,
I saw some analysis saying that in a university dormitory suburb the vote was 98% against. Please FSM let the next generation, women and minorities purge this scourge.
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hightor
 
  3  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 02:49 am
Zardoz wrote:
We all know control freaks who want to control everything. If you happen to be married to one, they will make your life miserable they will want to control the way you dress and the way you talk. Th e trouble is that they are the type of people going into politics. We first saw it with abortion where they wanted to control not only their own body but everyone else’s body also. As they chipped away little by little at our freedom this got the attention of other control freaks if they could take one freedom, they could take other freedoms that we enjoy.

Now Comrade DeSantis is after a serious problem in FL schools. A law passed and signed by Comrade DeSantis will require parent’s permission for their child to be called by a nickname. Really? They don’t have more serious problems in their schools. Comrade DeSantis goes by his nick name Ron his real name is Ronald like the famous clown. Comrade DeSantis is doubly down on his pro slavery stance. DeSantis and his followers can now count the ways slavery was a good thing. If slavery was a good thing and so beneficial to the blacks, then forced labor camps should be an excellent in Comrade DeSantis new America. Remember people like Comrade DeSantis are all about control and you can see it in the legislation passed and signed during Comrade DeSantis’s term in office.
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tsarstepan
 
  1  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 12:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

The GOP was a respected, decent, helpful political party for a long time...and has slowly degenerated into this..

Laughing Not in my political lifetime. You're much older than me. What decade are you referring to? The 50s and Eisenhower? Theodore Roosevelt's era? Lincoln's time?
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 12:59 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I am a Republican. My party left me. It's put me in a position of having no GOP candidate I feel has any concept of any Republican ideals to vote for in more than 30 years.

The two candidates that met my progressive, "fighting Bob" Follet, John Lindsey, Edward Brooke vision of the GOP have been Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. So I've been voting Democratic for National and State offices for the last more than 30 years. The exception was GHWB and a Senator from Nebraska. I feel no need to cut the powers of the Federal government, I believe in the continuity of Federal employees staying on the job for years. I believe that term limits can be accomplished at the ballot box.

I don't mean to give the impression I want the GOP destroyed, and I do decry the destruction caused by the GOP on itself. It's not the GOP anymore, it's become the Libertarian party.
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Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 01:01 pm
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:

The GOP was a respected, decent, helpful political party for a long time...and has slowly degenerated into this..

Laughing Not in my political lifetime. You're much older than me. What decade are you referring to? The 50s and Eisenhower? Theodore Roosevelt's era? Lincoln's time?



Hey, Steve.

Yeah, I am older than you. 87 today!

Never thought I would be this old. But, I wake up in a decent mood every day...play golf three days of the week...Nancy and I take walks on the days when I do not play.

Things are great.

The party of Lincoln was a decent player back in the 50's. They had their baddies back then also...but not the kind they have today. The Democrats had theirs also...and theirs were deadly. The deep south was all Democrats back when I was young...and nobody wanted to screw with them.

Still, I hope the GOP gets its **** in order. This stuff has to stop somehow...or we are going to screw up everything.

Ragman
 
  2  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 01:12 pm
@tsarstepan,
IMHO,Pre-Regan times it was passable…as I disliked Regan. Now the party is a shambles.

Happy birthday, Frank A.!
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 01:57 pm
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

IMHO,Pre-Regan times it was passable…as I disliked Regan. Now the party is a shambles.

Happy birthday, Frank A.!


Thanks, Ragman. I voted for Reagan first time...and almost immediately regretted it. But times during Reagan's tenure were nothing like right now. The GOP has fallen apart. It is like a huge rock has been overturned...and all the ugly stuff underneath has been exposed.
Bogulum
 
  2  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 02:30 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Sincere respect and best wishes for your birthday, Frank A.!
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 04:55 pm
@Bogulum,
Bogulum wrote:

Sincere respect and best wishes for your birthday, Frank A.!



Thanks, Snood. I'm feeling top notch. Getting close to 90 though, so I gotta wonder how long that's gonna last.
Bogulum
 
  4  
Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2023 05:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

Bogulum wrote:

Sincere respect and best wishes for your birthday, Frank A.!



Thanks, Snood. I'm feeling top notch. Getting close to 90 though, so I gotta wonder how long that's gonna last.


I hear you, bro. The realization that no one gets out of this alive occasionally stops me in my tracks.
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hightor
 
  4  
Reply Thu 10 Aug, 2023 07:14 am
Quote:
New York Times journalists Maggie Haberman, Charlie Savage, and Luke Broadwater yesterday reported that in a memo dated December 6, 2020, Trump lawyer Kenneth Chesebro laid out a plan to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election that he acknowledged was “a bold, controversial strategy” that he believed the Supreme Court would “likely” reject.

Still, he presented the plan—while apparently trying to distance himself from it by writing “I’m not necessarily advising this course of action”—because he thought it “would guarantee that public attention would be riveted on the evidence of electoral abuses by the Democrats, and would also buy the Trump campaign more time to win litigation that would deprive Biden of electoral votes and/or add to Trump’s column.”

The plan was essentially what the Trump campaign ultimately tried to pursue. It called for Trump-Pence electors in six swing states Biden had won to meet and vote for Trump, and then to make sure that in each of those states there was a lawsuit underway that “might plausibly” call into question Biden’s victory there. Then, Vice President Mike Pence would take the position that he had the power not simply to open the votes but also to count them, and that the 1887 Electoral Count Act that clarified those procedures was unconstitutional.

Key to selling this strategy, Chesebro wrote, was messaging that constructing two slates of electors was “routine,” and he laid out a strategy of taking events and statements out of context to suggest support for that messaging.

This was, of course, a plan to deprive American voters of their right to have their votes counted, as the federal grand jury’s recent indictment of former president Trump charged, but Chesebro concluded: “it seems advisable for the campaign to seriously consider this course of action and, if adopted, to carefully plan related messaging.”

Three days later, Chesebro wrote specific instructions to create those fraudulent electors, and they were off to the races.

Chesebro is identified as Co-Conspirator 5 in the grand jury’s recent indictment of Trump.

It is an astonishing thing to read this memo today.

Forty-nine years ago, on August 9, 1974, President Richard Nixon wrote one line to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger: “I hereby resign the Office of President of the United States.” In late July the House Judiciary Committee had voted to recommend articles of impeachment against the president for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress for his attempt to cover up the involvement of his people in the June 1972 burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C.

The Watergate break-in was part of the Nixon campaign’s attempt to rig the 1972 election, in this case by bugging the Democrats’ headquarters, and Republicans wanted no part of it. When the White House produced a “smoking gun” tape on August 5, revealing that Nixon had been in on the cover-up since June 23, 1972—and implying that he had been in on the bugging itself—those Republicans who had been defending Nixon abandoned him.

On the night of August 7, 1974, a group of Republican lawmakers led by Arizona senator Barry Goldwater met with Nixon in the Oval Office and told him that the House as a whole would vote to impeach him and the Senate would vote to convict. Nixon decided to step down.

Although Nixon did not admit any guilt, maintaining he was resigning only because the time it would take to vindicate himself would distract from his presidential duties, his replacement, Gerald R. Ford, granted “a full, free, and absolute pardon” to Nixon “for all offenses against the United States which he…has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969, through August 9, 1974.”

Ford said that the trial of a former president would “cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.”

Only fifteen years later, the expectation that a president would not be prosecuted came into play again when members of President Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council ignored Congress’s 1985 prohibition on aid to the Nicaraguan Contras who were fighting against the socialist Nicaraguan government. The administration illegally sold arms to Iran and funneled the profits to the Contras.

When the story of the Iran-Contra affair broke in November 1986, government officials continued to break the law, shredding documents that Congress had subpoenaed. After fourteen administration officials were indicted and eleven convicted, the next president, George H. W. Bush, who had been Reagan’s vice president, pardoned them on the advice of his attorney general William Barr. (Yes, that William Barr.)

The independent prosecutor in the case, Lawrence Walsh, worried that the pardons weakened American democracy. They “undermine…the principle…that no man is above the law,” he said. Pardoning high-ranking officials “demonstrates that powerful people with powerful allies can commit serious crimes in high office, deliberately abusing the public trust without consequences.”

Walsh’s warning seems to be coming to life. The Republican Party now stands behind a man whose legal troubles currently include indictment on 40 counts for taking and hiding classified national security documents and on four counts of trying to steal an election in order to stay in power.

hcr
Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Thu 10 Aug, 2023 07:30 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:


Quote:
New York Times journalists Maggie Haberman, Charlie Savage, and Luke Broadwater yesterday reported that in a memo dated December 6, 2020, Trump lawyer Kenneth Chesebro laid out a plan to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election that he acknowledged was “a bold, controversial strategy” that he believed the Supreme Court would “likely” reject.

Still, he presented the plan—while apparently trying to distance himself from it by writing “I’m not necessarily advising this course of action”—because he thought it “would guarantee that public attention would be riveted on the evidence of electoral abuses by the Democrats, and would also buy the Trump campaign more time to win litigation that would deprive Biden of electoral votes and/or add to Trump’s column.”

The plan was essentially what the Trump campaign ultimately tried to pursue. It called for Trump-Pence electors in six swing states Biden had won to meet and vote for Trump, and then to make sure that in each of those states there was a lawsuit underway that “might plausibly” call into question Biden’s victory there. Then, Vice President Mike Pence would take the position that he had the power not simply to open the votes but also to count them, and that the 1887 Electoral Count Act that clarified those procedures was unconstitutional.

Key to selling this strategy, Chesebro wrote, was messaging that constructing two slates of electors was “routine,” and he laid out a strategy of taking events and statements out of context to suggest support for that messaging.

This was, of course, a plan to deprive American voters of their right to have their votes counted, as the federal grand jury’s recent indictment of former president Trump charged, but Chesebro concluded: “it seems advisable for the campaign to seriously consider this course of action and, if adopted, to carefully plan related messaging.”

Three days later, Chesebro wrote specific instructions to create those fraudulent electors, and they were off to the races.

Chesebro is identified as Co-Conspirator 5 in the grand jury’s recent indictment of Trump.

It is an astonishing thing to read this memo today.

Forty-nine years ago, on August 9, 1974, President Richard Nixon wrote one line to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger: “I hereby resign the Office of President of the United States.” In late July the House Judiciary Committee had voted to recommend articles of impeachment against the president for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress for his attempt to cover up the involvement of his people in the June 1972 burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C.

The Watergate break-in was part of the Nixon campaign’s attempt to rig the 1972 election, in this case by bugging the Democrats’ headquarters, and Republicans wanted no part of it. When the White House produced a “smoking gun” tape on August 5, revealing that Nixon had been in on the cover-up since June 23, 1972—and implying that he had been in on the bugging itself—those Republicans who had been defending Nixon abandoned him.

On the night of August 7, 1974, a group of Republican lawmakers led by Arizona senator Barry Goldwater met with Nixon in the Oval Office and told him that the House as a whole would vote to impeach him and the Senate would vote to convict. Nixon decided to step down.

Although Nixon did not admit any guilt, maintaining he was resigning only because the time it would take to vindicate himself would distract from his presidential duties, his replacement, Gerald R. Ford, granted “a full, free, and absolute pardon” to Nixon “for all offenses against the United States which he…has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969, through August 9, 1974.”

Ford said that the trial of a former president would “cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.”

Only fifteen years later, the expectation that a president would not be prosecuted came into play again when members of President Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council ignored Congress’s 1985 prohibition on aid to the Nicaraguan Contras who were fighting against the socialist Nicaraguan government. The administration illegally sold arms to Iran and funneled the profits to the Contras.

When the story of the Iran-Contra affair broke in November 1986, government officials continued to break the law, shredding documents that Congress had subpoenaed. After fourteen administration officials were indicted and eleven convicted, the next president, George H. W. Bush, who had been Reagan’s vice president, pardoned them on the advice of his attorney general William Barr. (Yes, that William Barr.)

The independent prosecutor in the case, Lawrence Walsh, worried that the pardons weakened American democracy. They “undermine…the principle…that no man is above the law,” he said. Pardoning high-ranking officials “demonstrates that powerful people with powerful allies can commit serious crimes in high office, deliberately abusing the public trust without consequences.”

Walsh’s warning seems to be coming to life. The Republican Party now stands behind a man whose legal troubles currently include indictment on 40 counts for taking and hiding classified national security documents and on four counts of trying to steal an election in order to stay in power.

hcr


Yup.

We can only hope that this will eventually bite the GOP on the ass...hard.

They have to recover. We need them...or we need a political party to take their place as the loyal opposition. I come have come to the reluctant conclusion that only the Democrats can actually govern. The GOP certainly cannot. They are forever tainted by the "...government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem" bullshit expounded by Reagan. But they can be a great loyal opposition...running needed herd on the excesses that might come from the Democrats.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Thu 10 Aug, 2023 08:28 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Thu 10 Aug, 2023 08:43 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank, I feel bad not having wished you a Happy Birthday, it went over my aging head, worse for the fact that my birthday is this month in twenty days.

Happy Birthday, my friend. Hard to believe, we've been keying at each other for more than twenty years!
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Reply Thu 10 Aug, 2023 11:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Frank, I feel bad not having wished you a Happy Birthday, it went over my aging head, worse for the fact that my birthday is this month in twenty days.

Happy Birthday, my friend. Hard to believe, we've been keying at each other for more than twenty years!


We have indeed, Bobsal.

Long time with lots of people here.

Long time wearing this particular body.

Lemme wish you a happy birthday a few weeks in advance.

Hope you get older!
 

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