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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 02:56 pm
@blatham,
Republicans = soft on crime. Especially when it's committed by their own.
Most Republicans would vote for Trump even if he's convicted of a crime, poll finds
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And yet, all of that seems to matter little to Republicans, according to the NPR poll — 71% of Republicans said they think Trump should be president again.

That drops only 8 points to 63% even if Trump is convicted of a crime.

blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 03:15 pm
@tsarstepan,
Yes. There are inconsistencies in their moral universe.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 03:16 pm
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Robert Costa @costareports
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AP: Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said Tuesday that he would forgo another presidential bid of his own and endorse President Joe Biden’s reelection. https://apnews.com/article/bernie-sanders-biden-endorsement-2024-d8f0772b117e2bf83e1062708ea651c0
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 03:28 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

There's a very good piece explaining the modern Supreme Court's use of the "shadow docket" that I highly recommend. It's here

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It wasn’t just that the Trump administration was so much more aggressive compared to its predecessors in trying to use unsigned, unexplained orders to carry out policies. It’s that the Court largely acquiesced. The Trump administration went to the Court 41 times in four years for emergency relief. That’s in contrast to eight requests over the prior 16 years from the Bush and Obama administrations. A really important part of the story is that the Court granted 28 of those requests in whole or in part — this is important — and never suggested that any of the requests it denied were somehow overreaching or inappropriate.

I think it was a combination of the executive branch pushing the envelope, the justices letting it push the envelope, then while this is all going on, two really important changes took place in the Court’s membership.



The damage Trump has done to the judicial branch...especially the SCOTUS...will probably be remembered as the most significant injury done to the Republic my that cretin.

We have to hope that John Roberts steps up to contain things as best as possible. (It is my opinion, perhaps just my hope, that Brett Kavanaugh, of all people, will help him.)
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 04:23 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I think of this a bit differently, Frank. Certainly Trump, by his nature, would have corrupted any sitting court for his purposes and would have appointed new justices to that same end. But his purposes were 1) self protection and 2) capturing conservative voters. Abortion, for example, would have been no concern at all for him personally (god knows how many he's paid for or refused to pay for).

To placate GOP leaders and voters he allowed his new appointees to be chosen by Leonard Leo at the Federalist Society who is the legal king-maker for the conservative movement. This was an arrangement of mutual convenience for Trump as it had been for recent GOP presidents. If the FS had not existed, the Supreme Court would have evolved far differently than it has. And any future GOP president will be locked in to or constrained by movement conservative demands just as Trump was. Thus I see Leonard Leo as far more significant in the corruption of the court than Trump.

To this point, Roberts seems to have provided at least some semblance of integrity to legal traditions and precedents but he hasn't joined the minority very often and he appears to be considerably out-weighed by the theocrats/radicals in his court.

Undoubtedly, Thomas and Alito (and surely some others as well) are acutely aware of electoral outcomes and understand now that their move on Roe has badly damaged the GOP's chances (which is the only route to their overall goals). This seems likely to temper them but if so, it will just mean some of the steps to their political goals are on pause.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 08:30 pm
@Builder,
Every time you bring up "what Trump said" I laugh my ass off. As if that guy had anything meaningful to say, let alone listen to!
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 09:28 pm
@hightor,
First of all that's specifically Biden vs a generic GOP candidate. Start adding specific Republicans and that number reverses.

Republicans answered that poll thinking their own specific candidate, including a lot whom would never pass a sniff test in a General election, like Trump, Flynn etc.

Secondly, I question what a poll means at this time so long before the first Tuesday in Nov 2024, a year and almost a half before the convention, a year before any primary.

It's going to be Joe Biden all the way.
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 11:19 pm
@neptuneblue,
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As if that guy had anything meaningful to say, let alone listen to!


Well, here's creepy Joe's best efforts.

The coming "contest" should be a laugh a minute, I'm thinking.
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 25 Apr, 2023 11:20 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
It's going to be Joe Biden all the way.


To the asylum? He's too frail for prison.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 02:16 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

I think of this a bit differently, Frank. Certainly Trump, by his nature, would have corrupted any sitting court for his purposes and would have appointed new justices to that same end. But his purposes were 1) self protection and 2) capturing conservative voters. Abortion, for example, would have been no concern at all for him personally (god knows how many he's paid for or refused to pay for).

To placate GOP leaders and voters he allowed his new appointees to be chosen by Leonard Leo at the Federalist Society who is the legal king-maker for the conservative movement. This was an arrangement of mutual convenience for Trump as it had been for recent GOP presidents. If the FS had not existed, the Supreme Court would have evolved far differently than it has. And any future GOP president will be locked in to or constrained by movement conservative demands just as Trump was. Thus I see Leonard Leo as far more significant in the corruption of the court than Trump.

To this point, Roberts seems to have provided at least some semblance of integrity to legal traditions and precedents but he hasn't joined the minority very often and he appears to be considerably out-weighed by the theocrats/radicals in his court.

Undoubtedly, Thomas and Alito (and surely some others as well) are acutely aware of electoral outcomes and understand now that their move on Roe has badly damaged the GOP's chances (which is the only route to their overall goals). This seems likely to temper them but if so, it will just mean some of the steps to their political goals are on pause.


I agree with you completely that there are others (and other things) besides Trump that have had a large hand in corrupting the American judiciary. Mitch McConnell comes to mind...the American Constitution's method of allocating voting, another. The Senate does not accurately reflect American society...and the Senate plays an over-sized role in stocking the judiciary.

My point was that the corrupting impact of Trump on the judiciary will be especially noted by history when assessing HIS legacy.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 03:25 am
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Exactly four years after he announced he would challenge then-president Donald Trump for the leadership of the United States, President Joe Biden today announced his reelection campaign, along with running mate Vice President Kamala Harris.

The contrast between the 2019 announcement video and the one released today shows how both the country and Biden have changed over the past four years. The earlier video featured former vice president and presidential hopeful Biden alone. It began by focusing on Charlottesville, Virginia, and the promise of the Declaration of Independence, written by Charlottesville’s famous resident Thomas Jefferson, that all men are created equal. Biden claimed that while we haven’t always lived up to those ideas, we have never walked away from them. They are the foundation of who we are.

In the video, Biden contrasted the ideals in the Declaration of Independence with the August 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, where Klansmen, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis came out into the open and were met by “a courageous group of Americans.” The resulting clash took the life of counterdemonstrator Heather Heyer. Trump answered the horror over the riot by saying there were “some very fine people on both sides.”

“With those words,” Biden said, “the President of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it. And in that moment,” he continued, “I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had seen in my lifetime.” We were in “a battle for the soul of this nation.” He urged us to remember who we are.

Biden’s 2019 campaign video was a rallying cry to defend American values from those who were trying to destroy them. Now, four years later, after winning the 2020 election by more than 7 million votes and working with Democrats and some Republicans to pass a raft of legislation to shore up the position of working- and middle-class Americans that rivals that of the New Deal, Biden’s message is different.

Like the previous video, today’s message begins with footage of an attack on the United States, but this time it is the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol to overturn our democracy and keep voters from putting Biden into the White House. But Biden is not the centerpiece of this video; the American people are. The video is a montage of Americans from all races and all walks of life, interspersed with images of President Biden, Vice President Harris, First Lady Jill Biden, and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff talking to people, laughing with them, hugging them, supporting them. It is a picture of community.

Over the image, Biden says that fighting for democracy has been the work of his first term. “This shouldn’t be a red or blue issue,” he says. He has fought “to protect our rights, to make sure that everyone in this country is treated equally, and that everyone is given a fair shot at making it.”

In contrast, the video says, MAGA extremists are threatening our “bedrock freedoms.” They have taken aim at Social Security while cutting taxes on the rich, dictated healthcare decisions for women, banned books, and attacked gay marriage, all while undermining voting rights. We are still in a battle for the soul of the nation, Biden says. The question is whether in the years ahead, “we have more freedom or less freedom. More rights or fewer.”

The video switches to upbeat music and faster energy as Biden says, “I know America. I know we’re good and decent people. I know we’re still a country that believes in honesty and respect, and treating each other with dignity. That we’re a nation where we give hate no safe harbor. We believe that everyone is equal, that everyone should be given a fair shot to succeed in this country.”

“Every generation of Americans has faced a moment when they have to defend democracy. Stand up for our personal freedom. Stand up for the right to vote, and our civil rights. And this is our moment,” Biden says, as the music changes and the video shows images of Americans coming together, laughing and working together. “We the people will not be silenced,” Biden says.

“Let’s finish this job; I know we can,” the video ends. “Because this is the United States of America. And there’s nothing, simply nothing, we cannot do if we do it together.”

“Let’s finish the job,” says writing across the screen.

It is a revealing moment. If Biden announced a presidential run in 2019 to recall the United States to its principles, he is running in 2023 on an extraordinary record of legislation and the idea that he has restored competence to Washington. And unlike Republicans eager for their party’s nomination, he appears to revel in highlighting the people around him rather than hogging the spotlight, while he touts the work the government has done for ordinary Americans.

Politico’s Eli Stokols observed that some major media outlets treated the president’s announcement as a less important story than a new revelation that yet another right-wing Supreme Court justice, Neil Gorsuch, didn’t disclose that he sold real estate to a wealthy man with business before the Supreme Court, or information coming out about the ongoing lawsuits against the former president. Stokols suggested the Biden campaign was quite happy to let the Republicans tear themselves apart in public while the president stays in the background, permitting Americans to forget the federal government is there—as they were able to in the past—because it is operating competently and without drama.

As if to honor that theme, Biden announced that Julie Chávez Rodríguez will serve as his campaign manager. The former director of the White House office of intergovernmental affairs, focused on working with state, local, and tribal officials, she has been described by a colleague as “a get-sh*t-done staffer.” Rodríguez is the granddaughter of union activist César Chávez.

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who had left open the possibility that he would run as a progressive candidate, promptly threw his weight behind Biden and announced that he would support the incumbent president, suggesting the Democrats are unified behind Biden's reelection.

The Republican National Committee responded to Biden’s announcement with an entirely computer generated video warning of what the world would look like if Biden were to be reelected: a dystopian future full of international and domestic crises (including an economic crash, which promptly led Twitter users to speculate that House speaker Kevin McCarthy’s threat to force a crisis over the debt ceiling was part of a larger plot to destroy Biden’s booming economy before the election). In keeping with the party's construction of false narratives, the “news reports” in the ad are fake; the images are computer generated.

MSNBC’s Steve Benen notes that the ad “accidentally makes an important point.” Unable to find anything horrific about Biden’s actual record, “the RNC found it necessary to peddle literally fake, made-up images referring to events that have not occurred.”

Bloomberg columnist Matt Yglesias tweeted: I feel like if you have to use fake [images] of hypothetical future bad things that might happen if the *incumbent president* stays in office, that itself tells you something.”

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 07:07 am
@Frank Apisa,
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My point was that the corrupting impact of Trump on the judiciary will be especially noted by history when assessing HIS legacy.


And how. McConnell stole Obama's last pick. He has a special place in Hell, too.

We need to be very thoughtful in how we go about 'fixing' SCOTUS, we don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The poll showing lagging faith in SCOTUS I think has more to with the abysmal Trump choices than it does with the institution itself.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 07:11 am
@Builder,
So classy. Really, the high mark of your discussion skills.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 07:37 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I think it is possible they are feeling the public's anger with them. First with their surprising lack of action with the pill for abortion, and now they decided to keep climate change lawsuits local.

Supreme Court deals blow to oil companies by turning away climate cases
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 09:04 am
@revelette1,
Successfully going to extremes does require knowing where the line is.
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neptuneblue
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 09:35 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
As if that guy had anything meaningful to say, let alone listen to!


Well, here's creepy Joe's best efforts.

The coming "contest" should be a laugh a minute, I'm thinking.


Everybody misspeaks at one time or another, In order to be fair, Trump's had his own "creepy" moments as well.

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/26/10-of-trumps-most-embarrassing-gaffes_partner/



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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 09:36 am
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 10:59 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
My point was that the corrupting impact of Trump on the judiciary will be especially noted by history when assessing HIS legacy.

I think that's exactly right.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 26 Apr, 2023 12:42 pm
Best comment I've seen on Carlson being booted out.

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Laurence Tribe 🇺🇦 ⚖️ @tribelaw
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Great idea: Improve the quality of American and Russian media at the same time!
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